How much more skilled is Islam compared to Khabib

[arcadeperfect]

Striking is zero contest, Islam by a wide margin. He's actually stood for long periods of time with a variety of opponents and has both punches and kicks at his disposal.
Grappling, Khabib is way more relentless with ground and pound.

I think Islam would keep it on the feet and just outpoint Khabib.

 

[arcadeperfect]

lol, probably because he’s asked about him a lot. Conor just goes on barely coherent twitter rants at like 3 in the morning about him. That weird quote when he was SAing that woman and choking her: “This is what happened to me in the octagon.”

Always wondered if a bad loss causes PTSD. I don’t see how it wouldn’t. Millions of people watch you get humiliated, you get physically dominated by someone who wants to harm you, and you get endless shit from the fans when you lose.

Some people get it just from watching a car accident.

That's dark as fuck if that's true about Conor. It's really not that hard to imagine that this loss bothers him. He hates Khabib with a passion and the fact that he was finished just adds fuel to the fire.

 

[fendertach]

Khabib had embarrassingly bad standup but got away with it because of his constant threat of a takedown. Khabib might have a slight edge in grappling but Islam is definitely more well rounded.

 

[Leonard Haid]

Islam is Khabib 2.0.

 

[hbombbisping]

Khabib had embarrassingly bad standup but got away with it because of his constant threat of a takedown. Khabib might have a slight edge in grappling but Islam is definitely more well rounded.

Most of the roster had better striking than Khabib, but his superior grappling, cardio, and fight IQ is what made him unstoppable.

Good striking = more time on the feet = Adriano Martins and bunch of other fighters tagging Islam.

More time striking is a weakness for Dagi fighters, especially being chinny like Islam.

 

[DumpsterBaby]

That's dark as fuck if that's true about Conor. It's really not that hard to imagine that this loss bothers him. He hates Khabib with a passion and the fact that he was finished just adds fuel to the fire.

That’s what was said by the woman he assaulted, and he was convicted. Kind of a specific thing to lie about, if you ask me, but I don’t know better than anyone else.

I don’t think it’s that simple. The longer MMA goes on, the more examples of serious consequences get shown. One thing no one really talks about is the psychological impact it must have. Yeah, there’s traumatic brain injury and all of that, but the affect on the self must be significant from a non-physiological perspective. Someone as high-profile as Conor with all those eyes on him, and as someone who revels in the attention… can’t imagine what that did to him upstairs. Clearly quite a bit. GSP was gunshy his whole career after Serra and that was on way less of a scale.

BJ is either a methhead or acting like one because of CTE (addiction is a symptom)

Shane Carwin can’t hold a job anymore when he was brilliant engineer while he was fighting. Didn’t have a long career either.

Nam Phan can’t talk anymore.

Tito is hilariously stupid.

Ninja’s brain bled after his fight with Sergei.

GSP is obsessed with aliens and thinks he was abducted. Didn’t take much damage in his career.

Matt Hughes probably tried to commit suicide by getting hit by a train. No other reason he’d be in that situation.

Chuck is fuck.

Wandy got a new face and has CTE (no surprise there)

Diego got scammed out of all his money and can’t make decisions anymore. I can go on and on.

The illusion that this is a safe sport has the potential to ruin someone’s life.

 

[hbombbisping]

Striking is zero contest, Islam by a wide margin. He's actually stood for long periods of time with a variety of opponents and has both punches and kicks at his disposal.

And those were also the times where Islam got in trouble and even lost.

Anyone can get knocked out in a stand up fight.

Nobody is knocking Khabib out in a Khabib fight.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Nurmagomedov is a better grappler, wrestler and ground & pound which causes him to have more openings for submissions, relies on the cage a lot. His striking is basic but adequate.

Makhachev has a lot better Sambo and Judo takedowns, his double legs and singles aren’t the best but still effective, he doesn’t utilize the cage that well like Khabib, he relies more on advancing for positional submissions, instead of creating them like Khabib. Striking Makhachev is a lot better.

Khabib has better cardio and his pressure alone sets them apart.
By all accounts, from training partners that Khabib beats Makhachev.

Their training is almost certainly more grappling based in which that just means Khabib is a better grappler. I really doubt they are having hard kickboxing sessions.

Most times when people say some guy beats another guy in training they are talking about rolling.

Also, I dont get how you can say because Khabib has better cardio that "alone" sets them apart. You just did a breakdown of their grappling abilities, but for striking all you said was "Makhachev is a lot better". How is not being a LOT better just a footnote?

Khabib is a lot better on top. That is really about it. He is not significantly better if at all at wrestling than Islam. He gets most of his takedowns from wearing his opponents down, which is why only has 1 first round finish in his UFC career (and it came from strikes not grappling). I don't see how that dramatically outweights Islam being arguably the best striker at LW. Islam has good punches, kicks, and hits hard.

It's not even theoretical, Islam literally beat better opponents than Khabib has. Khabib's best win is Islam's fifth best win.

 

[hbombbisping]

Their training is almost certainly more grappling based in which that just means Khabib is a better grappler. I really doubt they are having hard kickboxing sessions.

Most times when people say some guy beats another guy in training they are talking about rolling.

Also, I dont get how you can say because Khabib has better cardio that "alone" sets them apart. You just did a breakdown of their grappling abilities, but for striking all you said was "Makhachev is a lot better". How is not being a LOT better just a footnote?

Khabib is a lot better on top. That is really about it. He is not significantly better if at all at wrestling than Islam. He gets most of his takedowns from wearing his opponents down, which is why only has 1 first round finish in his UFC career (and it came from strikes not grappling). I don't see how that dramatically outweights Islam being arguably the best striker at LW. Islam has good punches, kicks, and hits hard.

It's not even theoretical, Islam literally beat better opponents than Khabib has.

I think you'd be surprised

 

[volcom5]

Their training is almost certainly more grappling based in which that just means Khabib is a better grappler. I really doubt they are having hard kickboxing sessions.

Im sure in their sparring, it is mostly grappling based as that is what their fighting style is built on, if they were to train for a specific opponent like a striker, then im sure Makhachev trains with John Pork.

Most times when people say some guy beats another guy in training they are talking about rolling.

I agree.

Also, I dont get how you can say because Khabib has better cardio that "alone" sets them apart. You just did a breakdown of their grappling abilities, but for striking all you said was "Makhachev is a lot better". How is not being a LOT better just a footnote?

His cardio sets them apart, because that is why barely anyone could get anything going on Khabib, dude is in your face, single to double, to clinching only to finish with throw, he’s constantly applying pressure, and is putting a lot into his GnP and strikes, if you don’t think that takes a lot of cardio and stamina then I don’t know what to say.

I glossed over Makhachevs striking because clearly he is a lot better, he’s more diverse, utilizes kicks, footwork, jabs, stays in the pocket and knows when to get out, he properly gauges range with his striking, also by the looks of it more strength ans power. Khabib not so much, only thing Khabib probably has better in his ability to strike and circle away with his footwork.

Khabib is a lot better on top. That is really about it. He is not significantly better if at all at wrestling than Islam.

I disagree, Khabib wrestling may not be significantly better, but he’s better in wrestling that he has adapted in MMA, if we’re talking about pure wrestling then maybe.

He gets most of his takedowns from wearing his opponents down, which is why only has 1 first round finish in his UFC career (and it came from strikes not grappling).

Um….yea, that’s why i said his cardio is better than Makhachevs.

I don't see how that dramatically outweights Islam being arguably the best striker at LW. Islam has good punches, kicks, and hits hard.

I don’t know where you’re getting this from but I didn’t say Khabib was better striker or Makhachevs striking wasnt good?

It's not even theoretical, Islam literally beat better opponents than Khabib has. Khabib's best win is Islam's fifth best win.

I don’t know about that.
Khabib best wins are Dos Anjos, Barboza, Mcgregor, Poirier & Gaethje.
Makhachevs best wins Oliveira, Volkanovski, Poirier and Maddalena(i was really struggling, to put him on as i didnt think too highly of him in the first place)But he did capture gold says enough. The Tsarukyan win aged well in hindsight, but thats like people putting Holloway on Mcgregors resume. It’s not the same fighter that they beat.

 

[RichardHarrow]

Growing like cancer

We takin ova!

 

[UppercutFromHades]

I think Islam is more gifted than Khabib, but the latters mental durability and relentlessness were unmatched in the history of MMA. Prime v Prime, legit pick'em.

 

[omawho402]

Islam is Khabib 2.0 with striking upgrades. He is clearly the better fighter, especially after capturing WW gold and not retiring early.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

I have seen it, that dolly throw had Khabib scared for his life

In khabibs defense Connor was acting like a lunatic. I'd be concerned as well. And I say this as someone who does not care for khabib or the Muslim brotherhood of dagastan

 

[TriangleMonkey]

I think Chase has hit that exact same throw in competition after Islam hit him with it

Chase is a badass wrestler and better now than those days

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

Striking is zero contest, Islam by a wide margin. He's actually stood for long periods of time with a variety of opponents and has both punches and kicks at his disposal.
Grappling, Khabib is way more relentless with ground and pound.

I think Islam would keep it on the feet and just outpoint Khabib.

Islam has no hope to stifle Khabib's grappling IMO. Khabib is just a more relentless dominant wrestler.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

In khabibs defense Connor was acting like a lunatic. I'd be concerned as well. And I say this as someone who does not care for khabib or the Muslim brotherhood of dagastan

Can't talk shit like a real gangster talking any time send location and stay on the bus.

 

[TR1]

I was always convinced Khabib would roll over his opponent, with Islam there is more intrigue in how the fight will go. IMO.

 

[TR1]

Can't talk shit like a real gangster talking any time send location and stay on the bus.

Well he did talk shit, literally to Conor's face without anyone in between them.

And we saw what Conor did about it (jack shit).

 

[Hezekiah]

Machachev is the better grappler and wrestler out in the open, much better striker. Khabib had the better chin and getting opponents down against the cage.