News How is anyone not talking about the UFC Antitrust lawsuit?

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Those employees are Dana White and a few other people.

What are you talking about? The UFC employs a full production team, a logistics team, legal staff, matchmakers, advertising team, medical team, the PI staff, and number of foreign offices around the globe.

By no stretch of the imagination the is UFC employees “Dana White and a few other people”

 

[Hellowhosthat]

What are you talking about? The UFC employs a full production team, a logistics team, legal staff, matchmakers, advertising team, medical team, the PI staff, and number of foreign offices around the globe.

By no stretch of the imagination the is UFC employees “Dana White and a few other people”

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In fairness I think the time period we're talking about is before any of the PI's were built.

But yeah, they still obviously have a lot of regular employees.

 

[Captain Herb]

they had 350 employees back in 2016.

What are you talking about? The UFC employs a full production team, a logistics team, legal staff, matchmakers, advertising team, medical team, the PI staff, and number of foreign offices around the globe.

By no stretch of the imagination the is UFC employees “Dana White and a few other people”

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And all those people make jack shit compared to the few at the top, like any company. The point was that the bulk of the employee compensation, which goes to executives, is nearly half of what they spend on ALL their fighters.

 

[Deleted member 512089]

Ru fed up with the shitty pay of taco bell workers on the weekends. Go see how hard they work for 8.25. The lawsuit is bs. Socialist country

So are the taco bell worker badly paid because of socialism or capitalism ?

 

[Askafan]

The lawmakers and the lawyers will screw things up and we'll look back at times like this as the golden age.

 

[MCS]

I think the Ali act might be good for the top 50-100 fighters in the sport, but I think it'd be terrible for undercard fighters.

Yeah, the revenue split that's attacked in this action would at least bring it in the direction of fair pay.

I was thinking that it would be a compromise as they ask for over a bil for compensation, which I see as unrealistic. Yet this action is also all about the open market. Ali Act helps with that, with free agency for really everyone. "Everyone" as in all would get the same benefits of free market, but all aren't good enough to even be signed. This then leads to better quality MMA at the expense of undercard fighters. Also could lead to more feeder orgs and "Contender/Challenger" type series.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Yeah, the revenue split that's attacked in this action would at least bring it in the direction of fair pay.

I was thinking that it would be a compromise as they ask for over a bil for compensation, which I see as unrealistic. Yet this action is also all about the open market. Ali Act helps with that, with free agency for really everyone. "Everyone" as in all would get the same benefits of free market, but all aren't good enough to even be signed. This then leads to better quality MMA at the expense of undercard fighters.

Dunno if it would work like that, on the one hand it might attract people to the bigger rewards at the top, on the other hand people might not be willing to fight for $1000 a time until they reach a decent status.

 

[johndhi]

If you don’t mind asking: how long do these types of lawsuits usually go? And who do think has a better chance of winning?

I’d really appreciate your insight

Thanks in advance.

If they settle it soon, it could be "over" as soon as a month from now. But the settlement process takes a while with class actions. They'd need to mail checks to all the fighters etc and that would take a year or two to finish.

If the case proceeds to trial (in theory) it would probably take two more years. But class actions almost never, ever, ever go to trial. So this will probably settle in the next year or so if I had to guess.

 

[DoctorStoppage]

Anyone surprised that the two biggest shills on this site, @Dreyga2000 @kflo , have been all over this thread from the first few pages?

 

[johndhi]

And $50m may work for the plaintiffs but may not have the impact some posters want going forward.

Yeah, we'll see. It seems like the lead plaintiffs here are pretty principled and not just here for a quick buck. I think they want some form of real change for the fighters.

Part of the settlement could be injunctive, meaning not just money but promises from ufc to change its practices, like agree the Ali act applies to them.

 

[MCS]

Dunno if it would work like that, on the one hand it might attract people to the bigger rewards at the top, on the other hand people might not be willing to fight for $1000 a time until they reach a decent status.

Yep. But you could spin that to fighters almost always coming from poverty. 1000 bucks is big money to those. Or that fighting is a path you choose for the love of it, not the money.

Of course the ideal way would be to attract the best athletes to MMA. For those the scholarship program what DFW loves could come into play.

 

[kflo]

Anyone surprised that the two biggest shills on this site, @Dreyga2000 @kflo , have been all over this thread from the first few pages?

ever notice it's the know-nothings who cry shill at people who bring information to the discussion.

try quoting an actual post instead of a blanket useless statement.

 

[johndhi]

If anyone else has questions about how this shit works happy to look into it. I should probably read the decision heh

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Yep. But you could spin that to fighters almost always coming from poverty. 1000 bucks is big money to those. Or that fighting is a path you choose for the love of it, not the money.

Of course the ideal way would be to attract the best athletes to MMA. For those the scholarship program what DFW loves could come into play.

MMA fighters don't always come from poverty though, at least American ones, there's a good amount of the UFC roster with college degrees.

 

[kflo]

Yeah, we'll see. It seems like the lead plaintiffs here are pretty principled and not just here for a quick buck. I think they want some form of real change for the fighters.

Part of the settlement could be injunctive, meaning not just money but promises from ufc to change its practices, like agree the Ali act applies to them.

pretty sure they can't unilaterally decide the ali act applies to mma or them though.

 

[dc007]

can anyone put what this means in simpler terms for the not so sharp sherbros as myself?

A judge said it's OK for a bunch of ex UFC independent contractors to sue them. Now UFC will make their move. This will go on for years and probably amount to nothing.

 

[DoctorStoppage]

ever notice it's the know-nothings who cry shill at people who bring information to the discussion.

try quoting an actual post instead of a blanket useless statement.

Get the UFC’s dick out your mouth bozo

Your posts in this thread are ufc talking points that you’re trying to pass off as facts. You look like a moron, just so you’re aware

 

[kflo]

Get the UFC’s dick out your mouth bozo

Your posts in this thread are ufc talking points that you’re trying to pass off as facts. You look like a moron, just so you’re aware

again, quote a single post that has false information. you wont. .

 

[MCS]

MMA fighters don't always come from poverty though, at least American ones, there's a good amount of the UFC roster with college degrees.

Those are generally the college wrestlers who get some often-shit-to-sometimes-good athlete college education. Chuck had a accounting degree, for example, which was on the better side. Most wrestlers are incredibly poor. That sport has fucked over a bunch of wrestlers because big competition organizers put that money in their own pocket.

 

[PunchKicker]

This forum would be quicker to cover it up, deleting a thread like this than letting it prosper. I give it 5 pages before they find a reason to lock it and move it over to wherever.



I for one think this is great news, it definitely shines a light of hope for the layman fighter that has been stepped on by the big giant ufc for a long time. I would get too excited yet, let's see where the chips fall first... The ufc is powerful enough to pull strings even after the fact.

Damn, you must be onto something. Looks like they gave you a double yellow for calling them out on their bullshit.