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Willy Knuckles said:
Lol yeah he's spot on. By saying we cant compare UFC to other leagues yet he's the only one bringing up other leagues lmao
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I didn’t bring up the nfl. I responded to someone who did.

You then made a nonsensical reply about salary caps.
 
Dreyga2000 said:
What makes you say I’m a shill?

I believe I have been pretty fair about representing the merits of deficits various perspectives.

I’m trying to be neutral and stick with the facts.

I believe both sides of the case have presented compelling arguments. And I have neither disparaged either the fighters or the company.

I think it’s possible to have nuanced conversations about this topic with resorting to name calling.

If you have disagreements. Line them out and I will politely address them.
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Well you did randomly give kflo props for again saying nothing of value, while at the same time, implied that most people disagreeing with him were ignorant. Idk why you guys always rush to the UFC's defense
 
careto said:
Yes, it could have unintended consequences. Right now the idea is for the fighters to have less restrictive, one-sided contracts, on top of a big payout for the plantiffs. However, it could turn into a shitshow, too. Not trying to turn this into a political debate or anything but the political trend right now favors the plantiffs and the supreme court will likely side with them.
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Tbh, I think the UFC would just have an unwritten rule where they just don't book people who take fights elsewhere when they don't want them to.
 
Willy Knuckles said:
Well you did randomly give kflo props for again saying nothing of value, while at the same time, implied that most people disagreeing with him were ignorant. Idk why you guys always rush to the UFC's defense
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I'm just interested in how people see it working out for the fighters. I'm all for fighters getting paid more, but I think something like the ali act would actually cause the vast majority of fighters of that level to be paid less.
 
kflo said:
I didn’t bring up the nfl. I responded to someone who did.

You then made a nonsensical reply about salary caps.
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The comment i replied to, is a comment where you directly compared the UFC to the NFL. I don't care what prompted you to say it but you said it. Do you know the point of a salary cap? Do you understand that in soccer literally thousands of teams decide the market? Do you understand that the MLB has been often criticised for the way they have payrolls set up? You have no point bro. Just stop
 
It's gonna hit. UFC is in the cross hairs for some re-policying which will leverage more control to athletes. it's a slam dunk, just a process getting there.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I'm just interested in how people see it working out for the fighters. I'm all for fighters getting paid more, but I think something like the ali act would actually cause the vast majority of fighters of that level to be paid less.
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There was a competitive market, with strikeforce, WEC and a few other leagues but either they died out because they were shit or the UFC bought them up
 
Willy Knuckles said:
There was a competitive market, with strikeforce, WEC and a few other leagues but either they died out because they were shit or the UFC bought them up
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Fighters were getting paid less than they are now then. Bellator, KSW and ONE are giving out reasonable contracts to the right fighters, but if they become more like promoters than organisations, they might be less inclined to pay decent money for someone for one fight.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Tbh, I think the UFC would just have an unwritten rule where they just don't book people who take fights elsewhere when they don't want them to.
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I dont know if that would work. Think about all the fighters who have complained about their pay, they would all be allowed to go to other promotions and get paid. This would either force the UFC to pay their fighters what they are worth or, like you said, the UFC would not waste rheir time hyping fighters because they could go at any minute.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Fighters were getting paid less than they are now then. Bellator, KSW and ONE are giving out reasonable contracts to the right fighters, but if they become more like promoters than organisations, they might be less inclined to pay decent money for someone for one fight.
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Getting paid less where? In the UFC?
 
Willy Knuckles said:
That's a broad statement lol. Do you have any numbers on fighter pay back then?
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I meant I think fighters will get paid less (at least the undercard) without exclusive contracts. Sorry if it didn't come across.
 
Willy Knuckles said:
The comment i replied to, is a comment where you directly compared the UFC to the NFL. I don't care what prompted you to say it but you said it. Do you know the point of a salary cap? Do you understand that in soccer literally thousands of teams decide the market? Do you understand that the MLB has been often criticised for the way they have payrolls set up? You have no point bro. Just stop
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I replied to someone else who brought up the nfl. I didn’t. So saying I’m the only one bringing them up and lmao about it is pretty sad. You don’t care what prompted me to say it yet you said I was the only one bringing it up??

this was what i said, in reply to someone who brought up the nfl as a monopoly:
The nfl has 32 franchises competing for the same talent though. That competition does lead to a market price for talent.
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that is a factually true statement and a relevant reply to the person who brought it up.

yet, you had to jump in and say:
There's a salary cap though so one team can't just buy up all the talent. Why do you always bring up other sports when you obviously aren't an avid fan of those sports. You sound so dumb lol
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and you think i sound dumb? how does that even relate to what i said in relation to the nfl being a monopoly as the other poster said?

and again, if it's only a salary cap that prevents one team from buying all the talent, why doesn't that happen in sports without a salary cap?
 
Give a little more money and all your problems go away, even legal issues.

Right Bill Clinton?
 
kflo said:
I replied to someone else who brought up the nfl. I didn’t. So saying I’m the only one bringing them up and lmao about it is pretty sad. You don’t care what prompted me to say it yet you said I was the only one bringing it up??

this was what i said, in reply to someone who brought up the nfl as a monopoly:
The nfl has 32 franchises competing for the same talent though. That competition does lead to a market price for talent.
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that is a factually true statement and a relevant reply to the person who brought it up.

yet, you had to jump in and say:
There's a salary cap though so one team can't just buy up all the talent. Why do you always bring up other sports when you obviously aren't an avid fan of those sports. You sound so dumb lol
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and you think i sound dumb? how does that even relate to what i said in relation to the nfl being a monopoly as the other poster said?

and again, if it's only a salary cap that prevents one team from buying all the talent, why doesn't that happen in sports without a salary cap?
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Because the UFC decides the market you dense fuck lol. And the market price is actually decided by a revenue split. That's why they have things like mandated minimum contracts, roster size limits, and a fuckin salary cap. The UFC has none of those things. When the market doesn't go thier way they buy up companies or put clauses in contracts that make it hard to leave and go anywhere else. Again you talking about a sport you have little knowledge on. If the NFL was a monopoly they would buy up competitions(they don't) and they would drop some of their self imposed restrictions to dictate the market for other leagues as well.
 
kflo said:
and again, if it's only a salary cap that prevents one team from buying all the talent, why doesn't that happen in sports without a salary cap?
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Soccer and MLB teams have been stacking their teams unfairly for years. It is an issue in sports without salary caps
 
Willy Knuckles said:
Because the UFC decides the market you dense fuck lol. And the market price is actually decided by a revenue split. That's why they have things like mandated minimum contracts, roster size limits, and a fuckin salary cap. The UFC has none of those things. When the market doesn't go thier way they buy up companies or put clauses in contracts that make it hard to leave and go anywhere else. Again you talking about a sport you have little knowledge on. If the NFL was a monopoly they would buy up competitions(they don't) and they would drop some of their self imposed restrictions to dictate the market for other leagues as well.
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again, your view that the ufc decides the market has what exactly to do with this statement:
The nfl has 32 franchises competing for the same talent though. That competition does lead to a market price for talent.​
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my response was to someone else suggesting the nfl was a monopoly. i wasn't agreeing.

you seem to have anger issues and you don't actually address what i say. instead you make you your own arguments.
 
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