Nope, Machida won.
Ok. Even Rampage thought he had lost though.
I absolutely agree. With discipline, imo, he could have been one of the best to ever do it in his weight class right behind Jones. I still think he's up there but man he wasted a lot of natural talent. But it's his life and he lived it the way he wanted to and became a world champ.With proper training and motivation we could be talking about near GOAT status at LHW. Many of his "training camps" were simply getting him to lose 30 lbs so he could make 205 with a reasonable 12-15 lb water cut. Had he actually stayed in shape inbetween fights he would have been able to work on gameplans for fights and his cardio would have been better.
His sub defense was iffy early in his career but he shored that up. He destroyed Liddell twice and this was when Chuck seemed invincible. The only guys to put him away with strikes in his prime, Wandy and Rua, looked invincible in Pride yet very average and smaller in the UFC. Jones always would have given him problems but prime Rampage vs a green Jones could have gone Rampage's way.
He wasn't the best for long because he didn't want to be the best for long. His coaches had to search his pockets after he'd go into a store to make sure he wasn't sneaking out chocolate bars!
That’s retarded.Average.....him in his Prime now - he wouldnt be top 15
lolOverrated, he had good power and a chin but his wrestling was average. Without his personality he would be regarded as an average fighter
If we rank LHWs based on resume and accomplishments, he’s in the Top 3-4 imo.
Yeah, look at your profile pic. Rampage isn't top 3 once you remove your biases.Top 3 LHW champion of all time for me, in terms of accomplishments. Unified the PRIDE and UFC belts. He's got wins over Liddell x2, Wandy x2, Hendo, Igor, Randleman and Machida. Not to mention powerbombing Arona into Bolivia. His resume stacks up with the best at LHW. Honestly maybe only Hendo has a more impressive resume at LHW than Rampage. If we're talking pure talent I think he definitely ranks in the top 5 at LHW.
Not gonna lie I'm pretty biased. Rampage was the first fighter that really got me into MMA as a fan. That being said I think we'll have to agree to disagree on his resume. At LHW I think he is easily top 3 in terms of accomplishments and legacyYeah, look at your profile pic. Rampage isn't top 3 once you remove your biases.
While I don't disagree with you post...its BOLIVIAN.Top 3 LHW champion of all time for me, in terms of accomplishments. Unified the PRIDE and UFC belts. He's got wins over Liddell x2, Wandy x2, Hendo, Igor, Randleman and Machida. Not to mention powerbombing Arona into Bolivia. His resume stacks up with the best at LHW. Honestly maybe only Hendo has a more impressive resume at LHW than Rampage. If we're talking pure talent I think he definitely ranks in the top 5 at LHW.
He has mentioned that he's suffered with thyroid issues which affected his weight of course and therefore he will have had to have worked harder to stay in good shape and at his age at the end of his career it just wasn't doable.idk but its a shame he went out like this
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I felt he could have won the fight against Rashad if it wasn't for the movie at that time Dale.He was a legit champ, one of the most physical forces in the division. He could have been way more dominant in the pre-jones era if he had focused on his game more. It also didn't help that he was one of those guys who went from a dynamic wrestle-boxer to a one-dimensional head-hunter.
Still, he won me some good high school bets (against guys who hadn't done their research) when he beat Liddell
edit: oh, and I forgot about the A-Team movie. That really hindered his career. Though to be fair, I think was fully down put mma behind him if he could make it in Hollywood. And that probably didn't seem like such a pipe dream considering he got the highest profile role in a movie that also starred Liam Neeson and Bradley Cooper, which is easily the biggest role an mma fighter has landed. Unfortunately it was a real turd of a film. GSP got more milage out of his 5 min in Captain America lol
Yeah it was an overlap of different eras, so not a fair comparison anywayI agree that a well rounded version of Jones beats even prime Rampage 9 out of 10 times. Unfortunately we didn't get to see that due to their age difference. When they did fight Rampage was 33 and no longer had the hunger he did earlier in his career, whereas Jones started his pro fighting career about the time Rampage lost his title to Griffin.