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Which are better?
Or are Royal Marines just the equivalent of the Marine Force Recon or their Marine Raiders (formerly MARSOC)?
The only advantage I give to the US Marines is that they have the best dress uniforms EVER... But the Royal Marines are better.
Some counter arguments I've found:
Or from another individual:
- US Marine Corps
- Royal Marines
EDIT: Did the Royal Marines imitate parts of the early US Marine uniform? Can someone who knows about this topic discuss it? It looks like they did, but I have no further knowledge on the topic.
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This video compares the early parts of their respective boot camps. It seems biased but that is a BBC documentary.
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Or are Royal Marines just the equivalent of the Marine Force Recon or their Marine Raiders (formerly MARSOC)?
The only advantage I give to the US Marines is that they have the best dress uniforms EVER... But the Royal Marines are better.
Some counter arguments I've found:
The Royal Marines are an elite infantry brigade from an organization of about 8,400 including reserves. The USMC is an expeditionary force of 243,000 with reserves which includes it's own air force.
Comparing an RM commando with a Marine rifle battalion indicates the Marines are a heavier medium weight force. Indeed, a reinforced Marine rifle battalion is probably the most powerful general purpose infantry battalion in the world. Note "infantry" not mechanized. One could argue the individual RM is marginally better and that in some specific situations would perform better. If this is true it's beside the point given the two organizations are entirely different in size and scope. Moreover, it's worth noting the 3 USMC battalions within the Marine Raiders assigned to SOCOM and the re-activated Marine Force Recon units which one can also argue are much better than the average RM.
The RM contains a specific level of capability from a very well trained group. The USMC is a much larger organization with far greater capability that also contains units with even more training. The US has a large number of units along a broad spectrum of capabilities. If the USMC was told to reduce it's size to the RM it might look more like the brigade and conversely if the RM was told to expand to 200,000+ it would not be able to keep the exact same quality in of it's current Commandos and would look more like the USMC.
The RM can spearhead a military operation. The USMC conducts military operations. The USMC is in fact larger than the active British Army and RAF of about 160,000 to 200,000.
Or from another individual:
Some of you are naturally biased and therefore are not objective. The Royal Marines are a good outfit. But you want to base your opinion on "whose better" on training and equipment. Fair enough. But, let's be real.
The Royal Marine six-month training course does not impress me. I've seen it profiled on a British documentary. I think it was titled "How to Make a Royal Marines Officer" There was no real stress-induced environment created by the instructors. No screaming at the recruits, hazing, or slight physical abuse. The recruits seemed coddled. They were given ample free time during their training. Alright, there was some great physical components to the training, but the 30-mile timed march (which culminates at the end of training) is hard, but not impressive. The Marine recruits go through an initial 3 months of Boot Camp (which has a lot of physical and mental hardships). The Drill Instructor is Satan from Day 1 to the end. Your instructors couldn't scare 3-year-old. After Bootcamp, Marines go for an additional 3 months of combat and Infantry school training. Okay, the Royal Marines are considered an elite force, but not special forces. The USMC is not considered special forces but an amphibious attack force, which as been used as such. Besides, the USMC has the Marine Raiders and Force Recon which requires much more additional training that the Royal Marines. As far as equipment, the Marines, in general, have the latest and greatest weapons. The US has a defense budget that makes the UK's look tiny.
EDIT: Did the Royal Marines imitate parts of the early US Marine uniform? Can someone who knows about this topic discuss it? It looks like they did, but I have no further knowledge on the topic.
[YT]d3wZPfOr5es[/YT]
This video compares the early parts of their respective boot camps. It seems biased but that is a BBC documentary.
[YT]SG4KSky67is[/YT]
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