Hot Take: Anything less than Undisputed HW MMA goat is a disappointment for Tom Aspinall and his skill set.

[RockyLockridge]

Tom should be able to lap this division and smash the title defense record. Shame that he already has 1 defense that won't be counted due to it being interim. I think it should count, though.

I'm counting it, it'd only be purely semantic to not count it when you consider that title never got unified.

even if it didn't get unifed it's still a defense of a title.

 

[Alpha_T83]

So he'll be considered the GOAT by people who never watch his fights and have no context? lol

That also assumes his record will stand, which it probably won't for 50 years. 11+ is doable for any dominant champion who is young enough and active enough, especially if they luck out with a weak division.

You also don't take into account how quickly older generations get dismissed in MMA as time goes on. To many, it's constantly evolving and each generation is better than the last by default. I don't think that way but many do.

In what world do you live in?

Do you see Ali being dismissed by younger boxing generations? The answer is no.

 

[theincognito]

In what world do you live in?

Do you see Ali being dismissed by younger boxing generations? The answer is no.

And what exactly does that have to do with anything whatsoever? I said MMA. Ali wasn't an MMA fighter. Boxing isn't less than 25 years old as a sanctioned sport like MMA is.

You've been throwing the dumbest shit against the wall this entire time.

 

[Alpha_T83]

And what exactly does that have to do with anything whatsoever? I said MMA. Ali wasn't an MMA fighter. Boxing isn't less than 25 years old as a sanctioned sport like MMA is.

You've been throwing the dumbest shit against the wall this entire time.

Well you're saying that older generations get dismissed in MMA as time goes on. But that simply doesn't hold true in boxing. And there is ZERO reason to assume this will happen with MMA.What you're seeing is older generation fighters like Liddell and Couture being dismissed, because their records simply aren't that impressive compared to fighters that followed.

Trust me, if Chuck Liddell had 10+ consecutive title defenses, he'd still be in the top 5 GOAT lists.

 

[theincognito]

Well you're saying that older generations get dismissed in MMA as time goes on. But that simply doesn't hold true in boxing. And there is ZERO reason to assume this will happen with MMA.What you're seeing is older generation fighters like Liddell and Couture being dismissed, because their records simply aren't that impressive compared to fighters that followed.

Trust me, if Chuck Liddell had 10+ consecutive title defenses, he'd still be in the top 5 GOAT lists.

Tito is 2nd all time in defenses at LHW. Does anyone on the planet (besides himself) consider him to be the 2nd best LHW of all time? No.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Tito is 2nd all time in defenses at LHW. Does anyone on the planet (besides himself) consider him to be the 2nd best LHW of all time? No.

There are exceptions to every rule. Tito lost to both other prominent champions during his era (Couture and Liddell). He also had an unavenged loss to Frank Shamrock in his first LHW title fight, immediately prior to his title run.

No one cares that Muhammed Ali ended his career with a UD loss to Trevor Berbick. No one cares that Ali lost to Ken Norton, because he avenged the loss (which is why GSP is still highly ranked on GOAT lists, for avenging his losses). But if Ali had unavenged losses to George Foreman and Joe Frazier during his prime run, I guarantee he wouldn't be the GOAT today.

Demetrious Johnson went an 11 consecutive UFC title defense run in which he had a win against every opponent he fought at 125 pounds.That's why he's the GOAT. One day someone will beat his record.

 

[Istryker]

People still hating on Mighty Mouse in 2025 is crazy
Literal Dana White shills

 

[Istryker]

It is pretty much impossible to achieve HW GOAT status in this era regardless of how good you are. Who else is he gonna beat to get that kind of resume? Gane? Delija? Jailton? Lewis? Kuniev? he could stop all of them in the first round and people still wouldnt be fully sold.

Shit that's enough for me lol.

 

[Trabaho]

Some people just make retarded threads

THe last guy is always the best guy. New is always the hyperbole. Goat best ever ect ect. Fabs are noobs. So they go off what is curent.

 

[orca]

I know in Heavyweight combat sports, one move can change or end an entire fight. But truth be told this guy is the most complete heavyweight MMA fighter to compete since the GREAT
MR FEDOR EMELIANENKO

He has one shot fight ending power
An elite chin (we know due to Sergei fight)
Great boxing
Great MMA grappling, with fight ending ability and pedigree on the ground.


Blahh blahh yeah I know the guy is technically UFC HW champ already, but I'm taking it way further.
He doesn't have to deal with Frank , JBJ or a miocic type (which I think he beats all 3 IMO)

I think he will go undefeated for at least a decade and cement himself as the greatest MMA heavyweight, anything less than that (unless due to medical stuff or whatever) is a HUGE disappointment for his skill set.
I know the fight game can be weird and odd, but he doesn't need a super fight if he continues putting up the performances he's capable of

ok answer this
Boxing = is sergei a great boxer that he beat?

MMA grappling = wich grappler did he beat thats great?
wich wrestler did he outwrestled?

 

[haj02]

He's a 15-3 32 year old man, the only thing he will be GOAT of is bringing rubber ducks to events and having a terrible three musketeers beard.

 

[orca]

I don’t know

He’s the most complete & all around intimidating fighter since Cain imo

But if he fights 7-8 more times & loses a couple of them he probably won’t be the “undisputed goat” but I doubt he’ll be seen a HUGE disappointment either

have you seen toms wrestling in the ufc like cain?
have you seen tom throw kicks?

have you seen toms clinch
toms dirty boxing
have you seen tom abuse another man for 5 rounds non stop?


where can i watch this complete fighting style he has?

 

[Bork Neslar]

The problem with you dumb autistic nerds is that you see only champions and cans. Nothing in between. You seem to think MMA is like Pro Wrestling. You live in a fantasy world. That's one of the reasons you always overract so much when a fighter doesn't match exactly your unrealistic expectations.

 

[AmalgamOpus]

Calm down.

 

[humdizzle]

the Gane fight will prove alot. He needs to beat him more emphatically than Jones did... meaning round 1 KO.

 

[wwkirk]

the Gane fight will prove alot. He needs to beat him more emphatically than Jones did... meaning round 1 KO.

Fair or not, that's the only way he'll gane the respect of Sherdoggers.