Holy double standard Batman - Silva vs Diaz

[xterm11]

fucking the test he tested positive for was not reliable even the NSAC admitted that. Im taking another break from sherdog retards like u make me sick get cancer ebola aids mfker

Well thought out rebuttal to the thread, thanks for sharing.

Both got an over the top punishment that has no precident. They are both similar in that respect. My comments were based on the lack of support for a legend that walk away from a drug test. He should have been punished as if he failed it, not banned from the sport

Oh and don't let the door hit you on the way out during your little rage fest.

 

[Sopapo]

Wanderlei ban for life is also incredibly wrong as well. They are making up this shit as they go..

 

[xterm11]

You know its idiotic to compare roids to weed but do it anyways. Are you mocking your own stupidity with this thread?

The situation's are similar, no? Both got levied an extreme punishment for something with no precident. If anything Wand should have been treated as if he failed the test and Diaz should be punished as if he tested positive for a banned substance for the 3rd time. 5 years is a far stiffer suspension than he should have been given.

My point is no one backed Wand when he had his right to fight taken from him but everyone back Diaz. Makes no sense to me.

 

[ipracticeufc]

To be fair, marijuana is pretty much roids at this point. Stoners are juicers.

True that I smoked 4 marijuanas today and now I'm buff

 

[Sopapo]

Well thought out rebuttal to the thread, thanks for sharing.

Both got an over the top punishment that has no precident. They are both similar in that respect. My comments were based on the lack of support for a legend that walk away from a drug test. He should have been punished as if he failed it, not banned from the sport

Oh and don't let the door hit you on the way out during your little rage fest.

The fact that we dont even know if he actually failed is a big deal. He passed 2 tests that are cientifically more accurate than the one he allegedly failed. They a regulatory body that are ending peoples career with no reasonable procedure.

 

[xterm11]

Wand ran from the test, which implies he was on roids.

Diaz smoked pot.

You really cant see the difference here?

If Diaz has aspirin in his system he could fail the test. The intensity of the drug doesn't matter. It is the fact that it is on the banned list so don't do it...simple as that.

 

[MrBoombostick]

This is the truth. Why in the hell wouldn't the UFC release their contracts. They are dooming these people. Sure, they have money now, but in 10 years they will be poor old people with brain damage that once were champs. They will be in fucking documentaries living in Cuba in a hut or some shit, mumbling about their fights.

As if Wand signing with OneFC or whatever would change the landscape of MMA.....

If the UFC let Diaz and Silva out of their contracts knowing that they would break the agreement/ban of 5 years the commission could come down on the UFC. Business wise it doesn't make sense. People tend to get attached to fighters and forget that there are the fighters and then there is a company that has to follow the AC's.

Minnesota couldn't just go ahead and play AP just because they disagreed with the NFL commissioners judgement. AP couldn't just go play for the CFL or some other league. He was screwed as well. But they had to let it play out.

The NAC is a joke and the term will be lowered more than likely to a year or two but you just have to let it play out and see.

Funny how the UFC haters always seem to find a way to jump all over the UFC what ever chance they get.

Silva ran from the test not the UFC. The Diaz situation with 2 clean tests vs 1 dirty is very suspect and a joke. It will take time but he will be back sooner than later.

 

[xterm11]

The fact that we dont even know if he actually failed is a big deal. He passed 2 tests that are cientifically more accurate than the one he allegedly failed. They a regulatory body that are ending peoples career with no reasonable procedure.

I agree that the commission is way overstepping in both situations. My point is, that for some reason no one gives a shit about Wand never being able to fight again over 1 miss step in his entire career but everyone is up in arms about Diaz.

Might not be exactly the same but they are similar enough that you can draw parallels between them.

 

[Romko4]

If Diaz has aspirin in his system he could fail the test. The intensity of the drug doesn't matter. It is the fact that it is on the banned list so don't do it...simple as that.

i cant believe what a fucking retard you are.

Some people really believe that if throwing chewed bubble gum on the sidewalk was a crime then the state should legally be able to do whatever the hell they want with the offender. 9000 public lashes? Okay

 

[bigconan]

FreeNickDiaz
FreeWand

Wands situation is just as sad. UFC looking to destroy him as well. Let the man go so he can continue with his life. Same goes for Diaz.

I don't know this 100%, but if UFC let's these guys go, one would assume they can continue with MMA in Brazil and Japan, or even Russia. UFC is just as responsible.

Unlike Wand, Diaz has some really good lawyers. I think the commission is in some big big trouble. It's going to be over turned. how you can go by one positive test, but totally disregard 2 negative tests, which were done at a wada approved facility. That alone, makes this very strange.

 

[Romko4]

I agree that the commission is way overstepping in both situations. My point is, that for some reason no one gives a shit about Wand never being able to fight again over 1 miss step in his entire career but everyone is up in arms about Diaz.

Might not be exactly the same but they are similar enough that you can draw parallels between them.

Because the NSAC disregarded all the evidence, mocked diaz and punished him anyway.

Wand ran from the test and talked a lot of bullshit, fuck him.

 

[dim_]

Running from a test, refusing to give a test is the most serious of the doping offences.

This is the dumb thing, if Wand had just taken the test and failed he could have got away with a year.

Even under new UFC rules.

Take the test, positive, admit immediately, co-operate and you are looking at 2 years, possibly reduced down to 1 if you really co-operate.

Run from the test. 4 years. Boom.

 

[dim_]

Might not be exactly the same but they are similar enough that you can draw parallels between them.

there is virtually nothing in common between the two at all. All they have in common is both overseen by NSAC and they are both Martial Artists.

Apart from that, there isnt a single thing in common with Wanderlei's refusal to give a sample, and Diaz 3rd positive for a specified substance.

Not a thing.

 

[Darwinambrosius]

One guy outright refuses to cooperate and is made an example of. Another guy fails multiple tests and pisses the commission off, while ultimately cooperating, and is made an example of. That's pretty much what happened. However, those offenses aren't measured by the same standard, so the "double standard" doesn't apply.

 

[HydralisK]

Because Marijuana is not a PED. It's pretty cut and dry that way, ya know?

Also, legalize it.

 

[Polish Machine]

no double standards here, both are idiots that we don't have to watch fight again.

I wouldn't care either if I started watching mma last year.

 

[squatchi26]

I wouldn't care either if I started watching mma last year.

that was a sick burn dude.

 

[xterm11]

i cant believe what a fucking retard you are.

Some people really believe that if throwing chewed bubble gum on the sidewalk was a crime then the state should legally be able to do whatever the hell they want with the offender. 9000 public lashes? Okay

Again, I appreciate the verbal attacks, it brings alot to the conversation...

Regardless of your opinion, both pot and aspirin are on the banned substance list, rightly or wrongly.

I'm not debating whether the drug he used should or shouldn't be on the list. My argument is that one got a 5 year suspension that wasn't warranted and everyone freaks out. The other got a lifetime ban that wasn't warranted, everyone turned against him.

Looking forward to an actual conversation instead of more insults, please don't disappoint.

 

[MTNinja]

Wanderlei was running because of weed.

Probs.

 

[iwhoopedbatman]

Wand got a lot of love. I talked shit on the NSAC for that one too.