Elections Holocaust survivors: Could vote for Le Pen

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The threat to French Jews comes from the left, not the right. That's what the well-known Holocaust survivor and "Nazi hunter" Serge Klarsfeld said in an interview this week.

Klarsfeld shocked many when he said that he might consider voting for the far-right National Assembly. The party's founder Jean-Marie Le Pen was convicted several times for anti-Semitic statements, but his daughter Marie Le Pen has changed the party's image.

- National Collection supports Jews and supports Israel. If there is an anti-Jewish party and a pro-Jewish party, I vote for the pro-Jewish party, Klarsfeld said, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Google translated from Swedish Omni.se


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It's because the far right has associated with zionist political figures in and now officially gives a total political support to Netanyahu to obtain the blessing of the CRIF, the equivalent of the AIPAC in France.
 
It's so weird how both sides need some victim to be the champion of. Seriously who GAF about both Muslims and Djoos? The nation's interest and therefore, it's majority, is what counts. Can't be fucked to care about some minority group crying.
 
It's so weird how both sides need some victim to be the champion of. Seriously who GAF about both Muslims and Djoos? The nation's interest and therefore, it's majority, is what counts. Can't be fucked to care about some minority group crying.
Idk, maybe Muslims and Jews do? Some of whom live in France and vote in French elections? In a democracy everyone gets a vote, even minorities.
 
Idk, maybe Muslims and Jews do? Some of whom live in France and vote in French elections? In a democracy everyone gets a vote, even minorities.
RIght but i find it of bad taste when the majority starts to pander to the minority.
 
RIght but i find it of bad taste when the majority starts to pander to the minority.
That tends to happen when one party wants to antagonize those minorities, it creates an opportunity for the other party to court their votes. That's part of being in a democracy.
 
That tends to happen when one party wants to antagonize those minorities, it creates an opportunity for the other party to court their votes. That's part of being in a democracy.
I know. I just find it annoying, but i can deal with it.
 
Its fine to find it annoying but don't you think the parties that antagonize minorities share some of the blame here?
I think it antagonises minorities in the right way for the right reasons. First of all, no mainstream party is antagonising Jews in the West. Therefore, I find it bizarre how some parties self proclaim themselves some Israel cucks. From a democratic perspective this is an anomaly.

Then, on Muslims, essentially the narrative from these center of right parties is know your place and get back in your lane, with which I agree. Not because I am against Muslims, but they are by far the one problematic religious group in Yurrp.

So I do not accept that narrative of symetry that you are implying. Minorities by definition should not be too loud.
 
It's so weird how both sides need some victim to be the champion of. Seriously who GAF about both Muslims and Djoos? The nation's interest and therefore, it's majority, is what counts. Can't be fucked to care about some minority group crying.

One minority holds a powerful lobby who magically appears to endorse the future winning candidate at every election

 
One minority holds a powerful lobby who magically appears to endorse the future winning candidate at every election

Well it's no secret that Jews are immensely powerful in France and as I already wrote, it is a democratic anomaly. It's perfectly easy to understand how such a small group gathered so much power, but it doesn't make it right.
 
So I do not accept that narrative of symetry that you are implying. Minorities by definition should not be too loud.
I completely disagree with this but then again I am American so its probably a cultural divide. The idea that minorities have some special duty to keep their heads down is odious to me.
 
I completely disagree with this but then again I am American so its probably a cultural divide. The idea that minorities have some special duty to keep their heads down is odious to me.
I think it's a question of common sense and courtesy. When you are a foreigner you have a duty of respect towards the country that welcomed you. By definition in most parts of the world being a visible minority means that you or your parents were born abroad. It is indeed different in Murrka with former slaves and natives, I do concede that.

BTW I am myself a foreigner in a country where my kids were born. I pay much more taxes here than the average autochtonous citizen, yet I make a point of being much tougher on my children than the average autochtonous family when it comes to making noise and behaving in public. Because at an equal level of noise, the fact we speak another language IS an additional strain for the autochtonous crowd.
 
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