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Holly has been fighting Pro MMA longer than Rousey?

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  1. Jarnee

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    And she has been in fight sports for about as long as Ronda has been doing Judo.

    3 less pro MMA fight, 40 or so more boxing matches- so while Ronda has been working on her striking for the last 4 or so years, Holly has been working on her grappling.

    Jackson-Winklejohn train also.

    It is a miss match but people should stop acting like Holly is just some James Toney vs Randy type fight.
     
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  2. Emjay

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    I'm just eager to see how Ronda handles a volume kicker
     
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    Just scared Ronda will Tap cos of all the noise Holm makes when shadow boxing.
     
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  4. Lie Detector

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    All that and...

    -She went to a split decision with Raquel fucking Pennington

    -Couldn't do anything of significance standing with a petrified F-level grappler who couldn't take her down with the exception of verbally assaulting her

    HASH
    Y'AEHSH
    AASCH
    AXE

    Another sparkling case of material + executable skills > resume when it comes to dominance.

    Holly's no more a threat than Correia. All those boxing credentials and she'll get knocked out too.
     
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  5. Emjay

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    None of this means Ronda won't run face first into a front kick
     
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    She'll probably catch a kick and take her down. Over from there.

    Holm will have to stick to her hands, which shouldn't be so bad, if she wants to stay standing, I think.
     
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  8. Lie Detector

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    You can substitute your statement with anything and change the subject of it:

    "None of this means Holly won't (...)" - it adds nothing to the discussion.

    I'm invoking nothing more than history to demonstrate a probability of habits.
     
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    Neither does what you posted
     
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  10. Lie Detector

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    Appealing to history to gauge probability adds nothing to a discussion

    -Emjay
     
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    Machida vs Shogun 1 played out exactly like Machida Shogun 2, right?
     
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    The point is Holly fought absolute cans before the UFC and when she did get to the UFC she didn't look good taking on lower level competitions, Rocky is the best opponent by far she ever faced and she didn't looked good almost lost.

    Holly also has no ground time in MMA at all she'll be like a fish out of water once she gets there. She can train with the best coaches in the world doesn't mean anything until you get in there with Ronda.

    She's not a finisher either, what are the chances she stick and move for 5 rounds against Ronda and not going to the ground once.
     
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  13. Lie Detector

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    Fighter A vs Fighter B is being discussed.

    A thread serves as an avenue to discuss the outcome.

    What seems more reasonable to you?

    1. Saying, as you did, Fighter A can run into anything so xyz about Fighter B means nothing

    and/or

    Saying, as you did, Fighter B can run into anything so abc about Fighter A means nothing

    2. Finding at least some sort of pivot point that appeals to the fighters' overwhelming habits and body of work

    If you select #1, then why insert yourself into a discussion about predictions? All you're doing is vacating every variable just because anything can happen.

    Well, I guess if anything can happen, no one ought to ever discuss predictions again.
     
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    The same thing that caused her to almost lose against rocky, is imo the only way she can beat ronda. She has to stick and move and move backward the entire time avoiding the clinch. Carlos Condit game plan against diaz. Funny thing is, if she pulls it off she will likely get praised for it because everyone just wants to see ronda lose:)
     
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    Don't listen to the haters and trolls. Holly is more decorated in combat sports than Rousey and has been training MMA longer. They can't handle the fact that Ronda is just that good.

    Shertrolls consider athletes with this combat resume and undefeated in MMA cans.


    WBF Female World Light Welterweight Championship

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    Amanda Nunes should have got the shot, not Holm.

    Oh wait, Nunes lost to Cat Zingano, who lost to Rousey in record time.

    That means Ronda beats Nunes in half that time?

    Profit?
     
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    Opening bell sounds, Ronda will run through some punches, clinch, toss, and...

    IT'S ALLLLLL OVER!
     
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    More likely she will the kick with her face, or bull rush in. This fight isn't going to last long.
     
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  19. Lie Detector

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    That has literally nothing to do with what I said.

    Try something other than a strawman argument or show me how that represented my point. Go on.

    For the record, I agree with you on the rankings mean nothing saying when it comes to competitiveness in a match-up. That mutual belief of ours doesn't contradict anything I wrote.
     
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  20. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

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    Right it had nothing to do with what you said, but it makes about as much sense as what you said.

    Just because Holm won a split against Pennington doesn't mean she can't beat Rousey.

    So don't use the Pennington fight as some excuse to bash Holm's chances. Use better logic than Sherlogic.
     
    Emjay, Aug 24, 2015
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