High plains drifter assault scene

This is a film set in a different time. Rape was more prevalent, women needed men to look after them.

Rape is wrong, but what the fuck has that got to do with whether it's in a period drama?

Killing people is worse, you want killing people out of movies??

exactly it may be a movie from the 70s but it is set in the 1800s

there are lots of race to the bottom arguments comming from the pro rape scene crowd in here. I mean if we allow killing in movies might as well add some rape too right? And why stop there? What other morally unacceptable degeneracy are we leaving out unfairly?

why not have rape and murder in a movie? You understand it is fiction. But you also understand it happens in real life. And you realize that movies need conflict?
And you also understand that having killing and raping in a movie is not telling you to do it in real life?
 
exactly it may be a movie from the 70s but it is set in the 1800s



why not have rape and murder in a movie? You understand it is fiction. But you also understand it happens in real life. And you realize that movies need conflict?
And you also understand that having killing and raping in a movie is not telling you to do it in real life?


None of those conditions require rape scenes. When rape is portraid as something ultimately desireable as in this case where the woman ends up liking it then its supporting degeneracy. But the real question is why would we want to see rape as entertainment? I dont find it entertaining at all and its moraly reprehensible in the way its portraid.
 
None of those conditions require rape scenes. When rape is portraid as something ultimately desireable as in this case where the woman ends up liking it then its supporting degeneracy. But the real question is why would we want to see rape as entertainment? I dont find it entertaining at all and its moraly reprehensible in the way its portraid.

Do you disapprove of movies like The Accused, North Country and American History X?
 
None of those conditions require rape scenes. When rape is portraid as something ultimately desireable as in this case where the woman ends up liking it then its supporting degeneracy. But the real question is why would we want to see rape as entertainment? I dont find it entertaining at all and its moraly reprehensible in the way its portraid.

The same could be said for a lot of things, like glamorising of theft or murder for example.

I wonder why people watch horror for entertainment, I don't enjoy it.

Look. Men wanting women, women wanting men, and all the grotty stuff in-between is fair game for artists. It's what matters most to us.
 
The same could be said for a lot of things, like glamorising of theft or murder for example.

I wonder why people watch horror for entertainment, I don't enjoy it.

Look. Men wanting women, women wanting men, and all the grotty stuff in-between is fair game for artists. It's what matters most to us.

ive already addressed this in earlier posts. the existence of those things can also be questioned too and should be but as humanity moves forward in spurts it is now that we are rightly disgusted by rape scenes presented somewhat favorably.
 
None of those conditions require rape scenes.
Clint is rapey in the movie. There was a hot sloot. Pretty sure that called for...neh..necessitated a rape scene. I think there should have been a stick of butter involved too.

It is a fictional story not a true story. Shit is not in a story because it is necessary. Shit is put in because the creator fucking wants to.

But check this out, back in the day TV Guide put all the bad stuff in a movie like sexual situations and rape and bad language so I knew if it was going to be any good or not. Pretty sure you can find out of there is a rape in a movie before watching it.
 
Clint is rapey in the movie. There was a hot sloot. Pretty sure that called for...neh..necessitated a rape scene. I think there should have been a stick of butter involved too.

It is a fictional story not a true story. Shit is not in a story because it is necessary. Shit is put in because the creator fucking wants to.

But check this out, back in the day TV Guide put all the bad stuff in a movie like sexual situations and rape and bad language so I knew if it was going to be any good or not. Pretty sure you can find out of there is a rape in a movie before watching it.

you said
"Clint is rapey in the movie. There was a hot sloot. Pretty sure that called for...neh..necessitated a rape scene. I think there should have been a stick of butter involved too".


gross.
 
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From the basis of these threads nearly every movie that comes out today promotes murder.

The Sopranos promotes joining the Mafia.

Lord of the Rings promotes going on an adventure with your buddies and targeting one racial group almost exclusively with violence.

John Wick promotes murdering 7000 people because your dog got killed.

Someone needs to think of the children and stop allowing the movies and TV shows to be released.

Game of Thrones took heat for implying that there is a lot of rape happening during civil wars.
 
Bring back rape in movies again. Amirite? It's just a movie.

I thought the point was that the scene is supposed to be horrifying and his character is a terrible person.
 
I thought the point was that the scene is supposed to be horrifying and his character is a terrible person.
His moral shortcomings became more apparent as the movie went on. This was the first scene where he really acted terribly so initially, it was a total shock after becoming so used to seeing Clint play the good guy in his other films. It followed right after he dispatched some scumbag bullies so it caught me off guard even more. I job didn't expect it from him but I'm less rustled now that I've had time to process it. I'm not ok with rape under any circumstance, but it's just a movie and a portrayal of how things often were back then.
 
A recent thread inspired me to revisit some of Clint Eastwood's old westerns. I recently watched The Outlaw Josey Wales which was awesome. Tonight I started High Plains Drifter and I'm kind of dumbfounded by this scene I just watched.



So, it cuts off early in this clip, but in the movie, he finishes. Like, how was this acceptable to show back then? Was this considered normal behavior of a protagonist as recently as a few decades ago? Like, wtf?

<Varys01><{chips}><{blankeye}>

Yeah, it was. Check out James Bond.
 
She did seem to like it. I dated a girl who wants me to choke her which I find weird. I'm not really into it.
I’ve probably lost 3 regular hookups because hurting them wasn’t my things. Known multiple girls with rape fantasies. My ex side chick who I had sex with 5x a week for almost 4 years now sets every sexual encounter she invites me over for like rape light. Is weird.
 
So, it cuts off early in this clip, but in the movie, he finishes. Like, how was this acceptable to show back then? Was this considered normal behavior of a protagonist as recently as a few decades ago? Like, wtf?

Basically, it's a plot point that goes back to the original killing of the town Marshall that the towns' folks did nothing to stop.

She's a slut who used the pretense of being insulted to goad The Stranger into having sex with her.

Later on in the flick, it's revealed that she was the moll of the leader of the bad guys who killed the town Marshall.

The IMDB plot synopsis explains it thusly:
The Stranger walks toward the stable. Callie Travers (Mariana Hill), a young woman of unknown background, purposefully collides with him. The shoulder of her sleeve is ripped, and she berates him for it. He tells her there's no reason to make a fuss, that she could have asked if she wanted to get acquainted. She angrily insults and repeatedly provokes him. He tries to leave, but she grabs him and insults him again. He returns her insults. She tells him he has "the manners of a goat" and slaps the cigar from his mouth. Pushed too far, he tells her, "You're the one that could use a lesson in manners," and drags her, screaming, into the stable. He throws her onto the loose hay and rapes her.

...

The next morning, the Stranger wakes and goes to the barber shop. He asks for his bath which the barber, instantly nervous, orders Mordecai to prepare in the back room. The trembling barber nicks the man he is shaving, Sheriff Sam Shaw (Walter Barnes), shoos him away. Sam waits until the Stranger has settled into his bath, then asks if he can sit down to talk. Trapped, the Stranger reluctantly gestures that Sam may join him. Sam says that Borders was not a loved man and there will be no charges filed.

Callie Travers, who The Stranger had raped in the stable, enters the tub room with a revolver, says "You dirty bastard!," and shoots at the Stranger, who slides under the water. Sam wrestles her for the gun and, as he drags her out, instructs Mordecai to tell the Stranger not to leave town until Sam talks to him. After they're gone, the Stranger comes up for air and says, "I wonder why it took her so long to get mad." Mordecai, who witnessed the rape, responds, "Because maybe you didn't go back for more."

...

The meeting is interrupted by Sam entering with still angry Callie in tow. Sam tells them about Callie's shooting outburst. Morgan Allen, her lover, tells her to be patient. Callie says, "Isn't forcible rape in broad daylight a misdemeanor in this town?" Allen tells her they need to avoid hysterics. She refers to hysterics not too long ago and spits on him, loudly questioning the manhood of the townsmen.

...

In Callie's bedroom, the Stranger enters while Callie is brushing her hair. She gets a gun from the dresser, but he grabs her wrist and controls it. He tells her he wants her company at dinner. She calls him an animal and says she doesn't eat with dogs. He says, "You might if it's the dog that runs the pack." She lets him kiss her and take the gun. She says she needs half an hour to get ready. He returns the gun and leaves.

At the hotel, Sarah is serving Callie and the Stranger dinner. She asks, "Do you have any special request for dessert?" The Stranger looks at Callie and says, "No, I've already taken care of that." Callie smiles. Sarah leaves, disgusted.

...

In his hotel room, the Stranger sleeps while Callie sneaks out of bed and gets dressed. Outside, Morgan Allen, Jake Ross, and three henchmen carefully ascend the hotel stairs, which creak anyway. Callie leaves the room and shuts the door, just as the men arrive. The men enter the room and beat the covered figure in bed with axe handles. The Stranger, on a ledge outside the window, lights a stick of dynamite and throws it onto the bed. The attackers see it and rush for the door, but only three escape before the room explodes.

...

Later, after dark, the town is ablaze. The battered townspeople are in the saloon being roughed up by Stacey and Dan. Stacey beats Sam back onto a table, yelling, "A party?" Cole enters with Callie and throws her to the floor. She tries to convince Stacey she always loved him, but he's not buying it. Cole wants to know who ambushed them, and Stacey says, "We're going to find out right now." Then, a whip flies in over the swinging doors, wraps around Cole's neck, and drags him out, choking. The Stranger whips Cole to death in the street while Stacey, Dan, and the townspeople remain inside, stupefied by what they hear. Finally, the bloody whip is thrown into the saloon.
 
Kind of reminds me of another movie I watched recently, Nightcrawler. The protagonist in that movie is pretty shady too but you still admire other traits so it's a mixed bag. Kind of like people in real life. Not that I know any rapists..
He was a serial killer. They don’t say it, but you can figure it out.
 
I agree, everyone does but I think the point of the scene was to tame that lady. They were painting a picture. I believe Clint Eastwood was there to save that town and he had his way with a few women in the movie. He was a a rough drifter there to save the town and he was untouchable because everyone in the town was soft. I mean he was there to murder people

The town hired a sheriff and stood by and watched as the three men beat him to death. Clint was supposed to be the avenging angel. Pale Rider had a similar theme.
 
ive already addressed this in earlier posts. the existence of those things can also be questioned too and should be but as humanity moves forward in spurts it is now that we are rightly disgusted by rape scenes presented somewhat favorably.

I agree that you have addressed the subject, but not that you have provided an adequate criticism of it.

The simple fact is that there are unpleasant aspects to the world and that art, being a mirror of, or lense to the world, through the mind of the creator, will contain aspects you find unpleasant.

That is it. You don't like something. That's as far as it goes, you don't get to prescribe how others think or shape reality with your thoughts. This is post modernist constructivism, the root of all the shit we see re the maddest of feminism and gender now.

Anyhow, hope you're having a good unrapey day bro!

<{clintugh}>
 
A recent thread inspired me to revisit some of Clint Eastwood's old westerns. I recently watched The Outlaw Josey Wales which was awesome. Tonight I started High Plains Drifter and I'm kind of dumbfounded by this scene I just watched.



So, it cuts off early in this clip, but in the movie, he finishes. Like, how was this acceptable to show back then? Was this considered normal behavior of a protagonist as recently as a few decades ago? Like, wtf?

<Varys01><{chips}><{blankeye}>


It becomes more understandable if you adscribe to the interpretation that the Drifter is a supernatural entity exacting vengeance on the town, most likely the dead marshal’s ghost.

So the rape is supposed to be bad thing being inflicted as punishment on one of the guilty people of the town.

The debatable point then becomes whether you think that it is ok to inflict terrible things like rape, torture or murder as punishment for evildoers.
 
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I agree that you have addressed the subject, but not that you have provided an adequate criticism of it.

The simple fact is that there are unpleasant aspects to the world and that art, being a mirror of, or lense to the world, through the mind of the creator, will contain aspects you find unpleasant.

That is it. You don't like something. That's as far as it goes, you don't get to prescribe how others think or shape reality with your thoughts. This is post modernist constructivism, the root of all the shit we see re the maddest of feminism and gender now.

Anyhow, hope you're having a good unrapey day bro!

<{clintugh}>


"Art" is a bullshit free pass that degenerates use to produce garbage. Slapping the word art in front of something doesn't magically make garbage not garbage or moral degeneracy suddenly ok. I reject that notion outright and always get a laugh out of how the concept is used to sidestep morality.

And who is dictating anything to anyone here anyway? Is free speech trumped by art too? is the free password "art" so sacred? Is it so sacred that you cannot tell the truth about it? Whoever argued for this concept is/was either a moral degenerate looking for a workaround or an intellectually stunted human being or some of both.

Morality is more important than art and in this case the rape is presented in a way that is base, exploitative, disgusting and somewhat favorable. That is wrong and we can and should move on from it and leave it in the dustbin of our history.

We mostly have even....... and rightly so. Humanity is better off without it just as humanity is/would be better off without most of rap music too.

"Art"?
<{clintugh}>
 
"Art" is a bullshit free pass that degenerates use to produce garbage. Slapping the word art in front of something doesn't magically make garbage not garbage or moral degeneracy suddenly ok. I reject that notion outright and always get a laugh out of how the concept is used to sidestep morality.

And who is dictating anything to anyone here anyway? Is free speech trumped by art too? is the free password "art" so sacred? Is it so sacred that you cannot tell the truth about it? Whoever argued for this concept is/was either a moral degenerate looking for a workaround or an intellectually stunted human being or some of both.

Morality is more important than art and in this case the rape is presented in a way that is base, exploitative, disgusting and somewhat favorable. That is wrong and we can and should move on from it and leave it in the dustbin of our history.

We mostly have even....... and rightly so. Humanity is better off without it just as humanity is/would be better off without most of rap music too.

"Art"?
<{clintugh}>
Which is worse, someone being raped or someone being killed?
 

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