Opinion Hegseth to U.S. generals: "Prepare for war."

[oldshadow]

Fear and respect are not synonymous. Fear is fear. Fear draws challenge just as much as it achieves subservience. Respect is best achieved through virtue and development of character. Jesus Christ didnt you ever listen to Andy Griffith?



Hegseth would have our Military be a bunch of insecure Barney Feifs desperate to be Alphas:

Plenty of governments will never respect us just because of who we are. We should make sure they fear us and never want to fuck with us.

 

[Soggust]

You are attempting to grade my post based on your writing style. Sit down, shut the fuck up, and get a towel under that pussy.



“The use of the word “proper” in the phrase “proper written sentence” is not wrong because it is grammatically correct and conveys a clear meaning. Here’s why:


1. Definition of “Proper”: The word “proper” means correct, appropriate, or suitable. In the context of a “proper written sentence,” it implies a sentence that is correctly or appropriately written, adhering to grammatical rules or intended standards.


2. Grammatical Validity: “Proper” is an adjective that appropriately modifies the noun phrase “written sentence.” The structure follows standard English syntax: an adjective (“proper”) describing a noun (“sentence”) that is further qualified by a past participle (“written”). There’s no violation of grammar rules here.


3. Understandability: The phrase is easily understood by native speakers. It communicates that the sentence in question meets a standard of correctness or appropriateness, such as proper grammar, spelling, or style.”

But if you are using "proper" as an adjective, you would need to follow it by a second comma, right? Because you would be following it with the adjective form of "written"?

Meaning, if you use them both as adverbs, a "properly written sentence" is correct and a "proper written sentence" would be grammatically incorrect (using adjective to describe the past participle "written").

But if you use them as an adjective to describe a sentence that's both proper and written (the exception you are claiming here), then it would be "a proper, written sentence".


edit - fact checked myself just to be sure

Spoiler: chatgpt

If you tried to force “proper written sentence” to stand in for “properly written sentence,” it would be grammatically off, because:

• written is a past participle functioning like an adjective,
• so if you want to describe how it was written, you need an adverb (properly), not an adjective (proper).

That’s why “a proper written sentence” (no comma) sounds a little “off” in standard English — it’s like you’re treating written as just another descriptive adjective instead of something that needs an adverb to qualify it.


The only way to make “proper written sentence” grammatical is the “proper, written sentence” structure you mentioned, where proper and written are clearly two separate adjectives. But in that case, it’s no longer interchangeable with “properly written sentence.”


So your instinct is right:

• properly written sentence = correct way to say it when talking about writing quality.
• proper, written sentence = a different meaning altogether (two adjectives stacked).
• proper written sentence (without comma) to mean “properly written” = grammatically wrong.

Want me to show you how linguists/grammarians would diagram “properly written sentence” vs “proper written sentence” to make the rule crystal clear?

 

[Shaun K]

But if you are using "proper" as an adjective, you would need to follow it by a second comma, right? Because you would be following it with the adjective form of "written"?

Meaning, if you use them both as adverbs, a "properly written sentence" is correct and a "proper written sentence" would be grammatically incorrect (using adjective to describe the past participle "written").

But if you use them as an adjective to describe a sentence that's both proper and written (the exception you are claiming here), then it would be "a proper, written sentence".

Im not going to entertain this when a software program that includes all of mans knowledge has proven my statement to be grammatically correct. Confer any further questions with any online or textbook resources you may have.

 

[Soggust]

Im not going to entertain this when a software program that includes all of mans knowledge has proven my statement to be grammatically correct. Confer any further questions with any online or textbook resources you may have.

ChatGPT says you're wrong homie

 

[Area809]

You think that training has a one size fits all routine? You dont know wtf you’re talking about. We did different scenarios for virtually every specific region we were in. There is generalized training, and specific training. If you dont know the difference you’ve never been involved in anything important in your entire life.

By the way, I also served mostly in wartime. The whole point of my comment, is that you do a work up when you have time. The job of the military is to be ready. When I deployed in 2003, we beat the crap out of those people with our Vietnam era training. Was it ideal? No, but we were ready for combat and adjusted on the fly because we were that good. 2006 deployment was different. We had been at war for a while and figured out what to train for at that point. I don’t know when exactly you served and I’m not going to judge you for it. But deploying at the beginning of a war is totally different than deploying at any other point during that war.

 

[Shaun K]

ChatGPT says you're wrong homie

No, it doesnt.

The entire topic of debate was the use of the word ‘proper’. So yeah, now would be a good time to fuck off.

 

[Shaun K]

By the way, I also served mostly in wartime. The whole point of my comment, is that you do a work up when you have time. The job of the military is to be ready. When I deployed in 2003, we beat the crap out of those people with our Vietnam era training. Was it ideal? No, but we were ready for combat and adjusted on the fly because we were that good. 2006 deployment was different. We had been at war for a while and figured out what to train for at that point. I don’t know when exactly you served and I’m not going to judge you for it. But deploying at the beginning of a war is totally different than deploying at any other point during that war.

What did you do?

Also, where did you train leading up to it? What environment? Did they happen to tell you what type of conditions you would be exposed to? Were you versed in any specific languages?

 

[Soggust]

No, it doesnt.

The entire topic of debate was the use of the word ‘proper’. So yeah, now would be a good time to fuck off.

I linked it above but okay lol

 

[Shaun K]

I linked it above but okay lol

You’re talking punctuation dipshit-we’re talking grammar. Get back to the grill the fries are burning.

 

[Soggust]

You’re talking punctuation dipshit-we’re talking grammar. Get back to the grill the fries are burning.

My take was that you were using an adjective (proper) incorrectly. That's grammar you dumb cunt.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Shaun K]

My take was that you were using an adjective (proper) incorrectly. That's grammar you dumb cunt.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Look, fuckjob, I already posted how my use of ‘proper’ was grammatically correct. You plugged some convoluted question strategically phrased to steer it to get the answer you wanted.

Besides, the entire bulk of your comment was centered around the exclusion of a second comma, therefore-it’s a punctuation issue

You losers are grasping at straws because you are unable to successfully refute anything that I have said. You know what’s happening here lol

 

[Crazy Source]

What's this thread about, again?

 

[Stoic1]

What's this thread about, again?

A top-heavy military being told to maintain standards and get out of this garrison mindset focused on DEI.

 

[Rational Poster]

Plenty of governments will never respect us just because of who we are. We should make sure they fear us and never want to fuck with us.

I don't think firing good generals because they don't meet Hegseth's arbitrary aesthetic desires for their appearance is what's going to make other countries fear us.

If anything getting rid of good talent over something as silly as their appearance is going to make us look even more of a joke to them.

 

[Shaun K]

What's this thread about, again?

It’s now about wannabe English tutors interjecting themselves into discussions and completely forgetting what the fuck their initial argument was

 

[Area809]

What did you do?

Also, where did you train leading up to it? What environment? Did they happen to tell you what type of conditions you would be exposed to? Were you versed in any specific languages?

In 2003, I was grunt, trained in North Carolina (nothing like the Middle East). Versed in any language? I maybe learned 6 words in Arabic lol.

2006 was different. We trained in the California desert, more situation specific/realistic training, based on what we earned from 4 years of combat in the Middle East.

 

[Crazy Source]

A top-heavy military being told to maintain standards and get out of this garrison mindset focused on DEI.

It’s now about wannabe English tutors interjecting themselves into discussions and completely forgetting what the fuck their initial argument was

You two clowns are perfect together. Congratulations on the engagement.

 

[N13]

I think the fitness thing kind of goes against the "would you want your kids to serve in this unit" rhetoric tbh. If it comes down to strategy I'd rather my kid served under a slightly out of shape person who's a good military tactician and decision maker under stress than someone who's jacked but not as good tactically.

I'd prefer someone who is physically fit and a good tactician/decision maker.

Plus, someone who is slightly out of shape can make the decision to get fit and do it quickly.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Hegseth is the worst cabinet pick by Trump. He is young, dumb, and inexperienced. He likes the attention and talking out of his ass.
Worst Secretary of Defense in U.S. history.
Bringing high ranking officers and senior NCOs from around the world to Quantico to listen to something he could have very well have sent in a memo. Also, he fails to do 1 proper push-up. Would fail miserably in the 75th Ranger Regiment. The guy needs to be replaced. Fast!

I'm shocked, well said, now do Trump...

 

[Shaun K]

You two clowns are perfect together. Congratulations on the engagement.

Is that a joke aimed at implied homosexuality? Amazing how you lot forget your “values” in posts based on emotion because you have nothing to add to the discussion with actual substance