HBO - Chernobyl anyone?

[cincymma79]

This show was fucking wonderful from start to finish and the podcast around it was great too

 

[SammyPops]

Scary af and stupid af Russians if 1/2 this show was true.

 

[gonads20]

I took a lot of the series with a grain of salt as they probably made a lot of stuff up or over fabricated it but it was a fantastic series. What made it great was that I now know more about Chernobyl and found myself googling information about the characters and event. I do find it interesting that the director did not incorporate that famous photo (of the reactor or inside the plant) of Chernobyl.

 

[Dizzy]

Basically he was a driven, narrow minded and manipulative bully lacking imagination. The sort of person who thrives in highly bureaucratic environment. He had not been given information about the weaknesses of the reactor type and believed blindly in his training. When reactor started acting funny it was probably just beyond his comprehension, that anything worse that some sort of shutdown could occur and it seemed his main concern was how to blame that on his subordinates.

Not sure what you mean by believing blindly in his training. He disregarded training and protocol and made one reckless decision after another in order to record a completed test. It was his greed and ego that sparked the chain of events.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Episode 3 will always give me nightmares.

Another great mini-series by HBO!

 

[Yotsuya]

Not sure what you mean by believing blindly in his training. He disregarded training and protocol and made one reckless decision after another in order to record a completed test. It was his greed and ego that sparked the chain of events.

Problems of that reactor type had been kept as secret from the people working at the plant. There had been two close calls in Soviet Union since 70's with the same reactor type, but those had been swept under the rug to save face of those responsible. According to Dyatlov's training an explosion was simply not a possibility as long as the shutdown button was pressed. That's why he refused to believe it had happened. He disregarded protocol, because he didn't know the possible consequences. He was an asshole, but in the bigger picture only the scapegoat. The real villain was Soviet Union.

 

[Dizzy]

Problems of that reactor type had been kept as secret from the people working at the plant. There had been two close calls in Soviet Union since 70's with the same reactor type, but those had been swept under the rug to save face of those responsible. According to Dyatlov's training an explosion was simply not a possibility as long as the shutdown button was pressed. That's why he refused to believe it had happened. He disregarded protocol, because he didn't know the possible consequences. He was an asshole, but in the bigger picture only the scapegoat. The real villain was Soviet Union.

Right, I watched the show. The government was one responsible party, Dyatlov was the other.

If there wasn't incompetence across the board, spearheaded by his desire to advance his career and his insane ego, the disaster wouldn't have happened. That's why he disregarded protocol. He created the gas, the design flaw in the reactor was the match that set it off.

There were people telling him, to his face, how dangerous what he was doing was and refusing to carry out his orders. He threatened them into doing it anyway.

There's a reason Legasov, Shcherbina, and Ulana all went in on him during the trial. He was every bit of guilty of causing Chernobyl as the Soviet Union was. Dude was pretty fucking far from just being a scapegoat lol.

He washed his hands of it and took zero responsibility. Which interestingly enough is pretty similar to what the government did.

 

[TheNinja]

Right, I watched the show. The government was one responsible party, Dyatlov was the other.

If there wasn't incompetence across the board, spearheaded by his desire to advance his career and his insane ego, the disaster wouldn't have happened. That's why he disregarded protocol. He created the gas, the design flaw in the reactor was the match that set it off.

There were people telling him, to his face, how dangerous what he was doing was and refusing to carry out his orders. He threatened them into doing it anyway.

There's a reason Legasov, Shcherbina, and Ulana all went in on him during the trial. He was every bit of guilty of causing Chernobyl as the Soviet Union was. Dude was pretty fucking far from just being a scapegoat lol.

He washed his hands of it and took zero responsibility. Which interestingly enough is pretty similar to what the government did.

It definitely seemed like Dyatlov is very much at fault here. Yes there was a design flaw and therefore his failsafe didn't work. But from what I've read he basically screwed up the entire "test" but wanted to run it anyway b/c of his ego and hope for promotion. He just figured if everything went really really wrong he'd just hit the AZ-5 button and shut it all down and it would bail him out.

So yes, the fact that it blew was the design flaw but it should never even have been brought to that situation if he hadn't messed everything up leading up to it....letting it run at 1/2 power too long, turning off auto correction failsafes, etc.

I might have to watch episode 5 again but the courtroom stuff was awesome. And the way Legasov explained it made total sense....heh.

 

[Dizzy]

It definitely seemed like Dyatlov is very much at fault here. Yes there was a design flaw and therefore his failsafe didn't work. But from what I've read he basically screwed up the entire "test" but wanted to run it anyway b/c of his ego and hope for promotion. He just figured if everything went really really wrong he'd just hit the AZ-5 button and shut it all down and it would bail him out.

So yes, the fact that it blew was the design flaw but it should never even have been brought to that situation if he hadn't messed everything up leading up to it....letting it run at 1/2 power too long, turning off auto correction failsafes, etc.

I might have to watch episode 5 again but the courtroom stuff was awesome. And the way Legasov explained it made total sense....heh.

I felt like this during the Legasov's testimony:

Excellent job breaking it down.

 

[Yotsuya]

Right, I watched the show. The government was one responsible party, Dyatlov was the other.

If there wasn't incompetence across the board, spearheaded by his desire to advance his career and his insane ego, the disaster wouldn't have happened. That's why he disregarded protocol. He created the gas, the design flaw in the reactor was the match that set it off.

There were people telling him, to his face, how dangerous what he was doing was and refusing to carry out his orders. He threatened them into doing it anyway.

There's a reason Legasov, Shcherbina, and Ulana all went in on him during the trial. He was every bit of guilty of causing Chernobyl as the Soviet Union was. Dude was pretty fucking far from just being a scapegoat lol.

He washed his hands of it and took zero responsibility. Which interestingly enough is pretty similar to what the government did.

Sure he was incredibly flawed and incompetent person in his position as I've stated. I said, that he was only a scapegoat in the bigger picture. I'm disputing hardly anything what you say, but just trying to broaden Dyatlov's character.

 

[Videer]

LEAVE DYATLOV ALONE! Poor guy was just a product of the Soviet system. Paul Ritter really made him unlikable tho! Props to him.

4½ out 5 red stars and Order of Lenin to the series and cast.

 

[Cole train]

It definitely seemed like Dyatlov is very much at fault here. Yes there was a design flaw and therefore his failsafe didn't work. But from what I've read he basically screwed up the entire "test" but wanted to run it anyway b/c of his ego and hope for promotion. He just figured if everything went really really wrong he'd just hit the AZ-5 button and shut it all down and it would bail him out.

So yes, the fact that it blew was the design flaw but it should never even have been brought to that situation if he hadn't messed everything up leading up to it....letting it run at 1/2 power too long, turning off auto correction failsafes, etc.

I might have to watch episode 5 again but the courtroom stuff was awesome. And the way Legasov explained it made total sense....heh.

the other engineers in the control room were telling dyatlov that its dangerous but he just threatened them with fucking up their life.

it wasnt even dyatlov who pressed the "fail safe' button if i remember correctly.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Scary af and stupid af Russians if 1/2 this show was true.

Our government is literally as weird and stupid. Just a bunch of people protecting their own cushy jobs. Not much else.

 

[HARRISON_3]

The real villain was Soviet Union.

Reported for spreading disinformation.

 

[TheNinja]

Our government is literally as weird and stupid. Just a bunch of people protecting their own cushy jobs. Not much else.

I was thinking the same thing. It's easy to crap on Russia during this show and say how stupid their government was and how they just covered things up and only cared about their reputation and egos.

But I'm honestly not sure our government would have reacted much differently. Yes of course there would have been some differences b/c communism vs democracy and all that.....but there still would have been attempted cover ups and saving face and scapegoats I'm sure of it.

 

[TribalDrumz]

so sad they just confirmed this will not be released on BLU RAY!!! what a travesty.

 

[Einar]

Amazing show. I regretted watching it from the beginning and having to wait a week between episodes. Should have waited and binged it. I think this is my favourite mini series ever.

 

[Rygu]

Just finished episode 5.

Without a doubt one of the best shows I have ever seen or probably ever will see.

 

[LiLoMMA]

Just finished the last episode. Incredible series, one of the best things I’ve ever watched.

The testimony was so fascinating and disheartening. To see how many things had to go wrong to set off this domino effect of tragedy was pretty staggering. Especially seeing it all laid out like it was.

Dyatlov was truly a complete piece of shit. More loathsome than any villain you could come up with. Fueled by greed that left a wake of destruction still being felt today. Fuck him.

He basically became the first, and so far only, person to drop a nuclear bomb on his own people. Out of arrogance. His fate was cruel, but he deserved worse

 

[Bubzeh]

Just finished it. Probably didn't rate it as highly as some of you in here but it was great regardless.

Mentioned in the first couple of pages that I'm going in October so that should be fun. Even if I am a little worried now...

Netflix spends all their efforts on being woke.

Brilliant line.