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HBO - Chernobyl anyone?

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halfway through episode 2 --- pretty good (outside of Russians speaking with english accents but just a small annoyance).
 
I was thinking the same thing. It's easy to crap on Russia during this show and say how stupid their government was and how they just covered things up and only cared about their reputation and egos.

But I'm honestly not sure our government would have reacted much differently. Yes of course there would have been some differences b/c communism vs democracy and all that.....but there still would have been attempted cover ups and saving face and scapegoats I'm sure of it.

Glenfield tower, 72 dead caused by massive incompetence at all levels. Current number of arrests...... 0.
 
Binged through it yesterday. It was decent but probably could've been shortened to 2 or 3 episodes.
 
haven't watched the finale yet, but I'm still struck by the first scenes of the firefighters responding with no protective gear, and just walking up to the core to douse the fire


that guy's hand just melting in seconds after touching pure graphite was terrifying
 
Currently watching this now. Just have the last two episodes to go. While I’ve heard of Chernobyl, as most have, I never really thought much of it or the details. Never thought to read anything about it either. I realize now that the whole fucking thing is nightmare fuel.
 
This was without a doubt the best mini series ever put on TV. For me its not even close. The only contender would be the first season of True Detective, which technically doesnt count since its considered a series, but even then I'd put this above it.

What they accomplished with this format was astonishing. Beyond the production value and aesthetics, how they were able to specifically explain how so many links of a disastrous chain had to come together for this to happen, with such elegance and brevity as to make you understand not only how it worked but how it was only possible under communist rule was nothing short of amazing. Equally horrifying, fascinating, and dramatic. It is a work of art. As perfect as TV can get. I can't think of a single scene or line of dialogue that could be improved.
 
Finally finished it. I've always been fascinated by Chernobyl and nuclear destruction in general. I think the overwhelming praise hyped me up too much. I thought it was good, not great.

The first 2 episodes were very solid and then I felt it wore out its welcome. My biggest problem is that it felt a little virtue signaly and anti-Russian propaganda. While it genuinely felt like the 80s and I praise the production, the clothing, the aesthetics, the practical effects and all of the technical aspects, the story telling is what kept it from being great to me.

Rather than being as accurate as possible, they dumbed it down to the American audience. They made up a Mary Sue character, put the blame on the explosion on 3 villains and more egregiously, blew it by having English actors speaking English dialogue.

I would have much preferred an extremely smart and accurate story with Russian actors speaking Russian with English subs and leaving out the Mary Sue and villain sub plots. It also only needed to be 3 episodes at the most.

I'm going to go 7/10 but it easily could have been 8 or 9 with proper story telling. Other than the story, everything else was virtually flawless and definitely made me question nuclear power and man's ignorance of its ramifications.
 
Finally finished it. I've always been fascinated by Chernobyl and nuclear destruction in general. I think the overwhelming praise hyped me up too much. I thought it was good, not great.

The first 2 episodes were very solid and then I felt it wore out its welcome. My biggest problem is that it felt a little virtue signaly and anti-Russian propaganda. While it genuinely felt like the 80s and I praise the production, the clothing, the aesthetics, the practical effects and all of the technical aspects, the story telling is what kept it from being great to me.

Rather than being as accurate as possible, they dumbed it down to the American audience. They made up a Mary Sue character, put the blame on the explosion on 3 villains and more egregiously, blew it by having English actors speaking English dialogue.

I would have much preferred an extremely smart and accurate story with Russian actors speaking Russian with English subs and leaving out the Mary Sue and villain sub plots. It also only needed to be 3 episodes at the most.

I'm going to go 7/10 but it easily could have been 8 or 9 with proper story telling. Other than the story, everything else was virtually flawless and definitely made me question nuclear power and man's ignorance of its ramifications.


I feel like the "Mary Sue" term just gets thrown around way too often when a female accomplishes things. They didint "make her up". They condensed dozens of characters and made her their representation, which is fairly typical of adaptations.

The three guys in question are very much a huge part of the blame, but hardly all of it. Theres lots of things that contributed to the disaster, but the 3 men were instrumental in it, and largley a focus because they were also the scapegoats as the show portrayed.
 
I feel like the "Mary Sue" term just gets thrown around way too often when a female accomplishes things. They didint "make her up". They condensed dozens of characters and made her their representation, which is fairly typical of adaptations.

The three guys in question are very much a huge part of the blame, but hardly all of it. Theres lots of things that contributed to the disaster, but the 3 men were instrumental in it, and largley a focus because they were also the scapegoats as the show portrayed.

They were complicit for sure. I just didn't like the workers questioning them and fighting back. They made it seem like the workers knew better and this main bad guy didn't care and was just looking for a promotion. None of this happened.

It was simply the case of reckless testing and faulty equipment. The workers just followed orders. I guess that doesn't make for exciting TV but I don't want excitement. I want accuracy.

As for Mary Sue, they made it come across as a woman knew better than the men, had all of the answers, knew everything there is to know and was instrumental into exposing the entire thing. That's the very definition of a Mary Sue. I don't use it liberally. It just felt like a shoe in for virtue points because women being better than men is en vogue.
 
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Yes of course there would have been some differences b/c communism vs democracy

Communism vs capitalism my friend, the Soviet Union was a democracy. Unfortuantely it is a typical communist blunder to build too quickly and too cheaply to push people back into work. Whereas in the West we have the money and resources available to have better sureity over safeguarding hazards, materials used, training standards etc I’m pretty sure they mentioned that during the trial.

Glenfield tower, 72 dead caused by massive incompetence at all levels. Current number of arrests...... 0.

Do you mean Grenfell tower? If so you’re spot on. It was a Labour built project under Tony Blair during a time when everyone was losing their shit and having to adjust to a new Middle Eastern war. For some reason the Tories got blamed for it when the accident happened, as if Corbyn himself doesn’t make the same promises of a “socialist paradise” with “free housing and subsideries” over and over yet can’t answer to how, who, what, when etc.

Anyone else is free to go to eastern Europe and see exactly how rough the working classes are still treated today. You’d be glad to be American/British then.
 
I finished the last two episodes yesterday, fell asleep, and had a sex dream about Valery Legaslov lmao. Not even mad about it.
 
I finished it last night. What a crazy series of errors and failures. They did a great job of explaining exactly what happened during the courtroom scene in the last episode. I enjoyed it overall.
 
Finally finished it. I've always been fascinated by Chernobyl and nuclear destruction in general. I think the overwhelming praise hyped me up too much. I thought it was good, not great.

The first 2 episodes were very solid and then I felt it wore out its welcome. My biggest problem is that it felt a little virtue signaly and anti-Russian propaganda. While it genuinely felt like the 80s and I praise the production, the clothing, the aesthetics, the practical effects and all of the technical aspects, the story telling is what kept it from being great to me.

Rather than being as accurate as possible, they dumbed it down to the American audience. They made up a Mary Sue character, put the blame on the explosion on 3 villains and more egregiously, blew it by having English actors speaking English dialogue.

I would have much preferred an extremely smart and accurate story with Russian actors speaking Russian with English subs and leaving out the Mary Sue and villain sub plots. It also only needed to be 3 episodes at the most.

I'm going to go 7/10 but it easily could have been 8 or 9 with proper story telling. Other than the story, everything else was virtually flawless and definitely made me question nuclear power and man's ignorance of its ramifications.
The miniseries equivalent of pointy elbows.
 
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