Elections Harris flip-flops on building the border wall

[ShadowRun]

Axois is reporting this, haven't seen much traffic anywhere else. What do you guys think ? I am not surprised.

Are walls still racist and don't work or ?

Harris flip-flops on building the border wall​

Vice President Kamala Harris speaks to reporters in El Paso during a visit to the border in 2021. Photo: Patrick T. Fallon/ AFP via Getty Images

If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration.
Why it matters: It's the latest example of Harris flip-flopping on her past liberal positions such as supporting Medicare for All and banning fracking — proposals that aides say she now is against.

• Harris is embracing a more hawkish immigration policy as Donald Trump's campaign spends tens of millions of dollars attacking her about the border.
• But she still has significant differences with Trump on immigration, opposing his approach to family separation and his plans for mass deportations.

Driving the news: In her speech to the Democratic National Convention last week, Harris said she would sign the recent bipartisan border security bill — which Trump had ordered his allies to kill, fearing it would help Democrats in the November elections.

• That bill, negotiated by senators such as James Lankford (R-Okla.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), requires hundreds of millions of dollars of unspent funds to be used to continue building a wall on the border.
• "It requires the Trump border wall," Lankford told Axios. "It is in the bill itself that it sets the standards that were set during the Trump administration: Here's where it will be built. Here's how it has to be built, the height, the type, everything during the Trump construction."
• Harris' campaign says the border deal is a whole lot more than continuation of wall funding — and a tiny fraction of what Trump has proposed.

Lankford's office estimated the legislation would spend $650 million on a wall, down from the $18 billion Trump requested in 2018.

• The bill, which Murphy described as a "compromise" also included provisions with more money for asylum lawyers and judges for the overloaded immigration system. It also gave the president the authority to shut down the border if more than an average of 5,000 migrants crossed per day.

The other side: Harris advisers note that the bipartisan border proposal didn't include any new money to continue building the wall.

• It just extended the timeline to spend funds that had been appropriated during Trump's last year as president, they say, although the legislation has new restrictions to ensure the money is spent on barriers.

Flashback: In declaring her candidacy in her first run for president in 2019, Harris called the wall Trump's "medieval vanity project" that wasn't going to stop transnational gangs from entering the U.S.

• In February 2020, Harris wrote on Facebook that "Trump's border wall is a complete waste of taxpayer money and won't make us any safer."
• In April 2017, soon after joining the Senate, Harris said the wall was a "stupid use of money. I will block any funding for it."

Between the lines: Lankford said he was surprised with Harris' full embrace of the border bill this year.

• He told Axios that Harris wasn't involved in the months-long negotiations: "We never saw any vice president staff here. ... She was a Johnny-come-never."

• "I know she's talking about it now, but she wasn't talking about it at all before."

When the bill was released, Murphy called it an "aggressive" plan but didn't emphasize the money for the wall.

• "We're creating bold new tools to get control of the border for the first time in a long time," he said in February. "But our bill does not deviate from our nation's core values."
• President Biden — then the presumed Democratic nominee — lambasted Trump for demanding Republicans kill the compromise, calling it pure politics. "He feels it would be a political win for me, and a political loser for him," Biden said in his State of the Union address.
• But some Democrats also criticized Biden for embracing conservative and restrictive policies on immigration that were included in the bill.
• Sen. Alex Padilla, a Democrat from Harris' home state of California, opposed the bill and said it "fails to provide relief for a single Dreamer, a single farmworker, a single essential worker or long-term resident."

Zoom in: Beyond embracing the bipartisan bill, Harris' campaign has portrayed her as an immigration hardliner in ads.

• One Harris TV ad frames her time as California's attorney general as that of a "border state prosecutor," and includes images of the border wall.
• In another, Harris' team highlights her support of boosting the number of Border Patrol agents.
• Most of Trump campaign ads have attacked Harris for the Biden administration's struggle to deal with waves of migrants crossing the border.

The bottom line: Like the wall itself, Harris' changes on border policy reflect how Trump has shifted the political debate on immigration during the past decade.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/27/kamala-harris-flip-flops-border-wall?utm_campaign=editorial&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

 

[Yehudim]

So, we as conservatives can take comfort in this…right?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I wonder if her running mate will still plan to invest in a ladder factory in Mexico to help them cross.

 

[filthybliss]

It’s funny, in the Bipartisan Border Security Bill, they had funding allocated for this wall. I wonder who shot it down.

 

[jx820]

The wall still faces the EXACT same issue it did in 2015. A wall is only as good as the people monitoring it, and there aren't enough border agents to monitor the damned thing. We have videos of people not only climbing over, but carrying others over.

I'm personally fine with meeting republicans part way on a bipartisan bill even if they plan to waste some money, provided the bill gets other larger concessions. A partial concession isn't a flip-flop, it's how you get things done.

I think the GOP would have been better off signing the border bill and hitting the democrats for stuffing the bill with pork (true or not) or accusing them of doing too little too late as opposed to shooting down a border bill, then running on border security. Now they get hit for voting against bipartisan border security every time they bring it up, and democrats can claim they were willing to meet the GOP half way.

It seems politically unsound to me.

 

[Confucamus]

It’s funny, in the Bipartisan Border Security Bill, they had funding allocated for this wall. I wonder who shot it down.

You didn't think the Dems fighting Trump at every turn to get the wall built during his presidency would be forgotten, did you?

 

[filthybliss]

You didn't think the Dems fighting Trump at every turn to get the wall built during his presidency would be forgotten, did you?

I see. So that justifies blocking it now when it’s more dire?

Is it really an issue then for y’all when you block the pushes for more security just so you can leave Trump’s ego unscathed.

“They were mean to him so we are not going to fix this problem”.

 

[44nutman]

Well the Democrats tried to pass a border bill and the GOP wanted no part of it, because Trump puts himself first over the country.
I wonder if Kamala will pardon anyone who steals money from a build a wall charity.

Also you weird ass MAGA's with your AI Trump photos, where he does not look old and fat. It is like you are projecting something you want his 80 year old ass to be, but deep down, you know he is just an old fat Orange Clown.

 

[Last Falconry]

You didn't think the Dems fighting Trump at every turn to get the wall built during his presidency would be forgotten, did you?

kinda giving the game away here. nicely done. probably sounded pretty cool before you typed it though

 

[nostradumbass]

Lol, after Harris started campaigning on "no tax on tips" right after Trump proposed it, I was kidding when I said she was going to pretend to be a border hawk and propose a wall next, and then she actually does it.

I still like Biden getting walk off KO'd in a debate, then puts on an orange tan 2 days later to look like Trump.

 

[Confucamus]

I see. So that justifies blocking it now when it’s more dire?

 

[filthybliss]

So Trump’s feelings are more important than securing the border?

Gotcha, thanks for being honest.

 

[Confucamus]

kinda giving the game away here. nicely done. probably sounded pretty cool before you typed it though

You must be new to politics. Tit-for-tat shit like this happens all the time. Not condoning a lot of it, but ain't nobody listening when Dems complaining about their border bill getting shot down after the dirty politics they played to stonewall Trump's border wall at every turn.

 

[Confucamus]

So Trump’s feelings are more important than securing the border?

Gotcha, thanks for being honest.

Right "Trump's feelings." lol

 

[filthybliss]

kinda giving the game away here. nicely done. probably sounded pretty cool before you typed it though

He doubled down on it…He has to be trolling or legitmately mentally stunted.

 

[filthybliss]

Right "Trump's feelings." lol

Yeah, pretty much what you said.

“They were mean to Trump so we are not going to pass legislature to tackle this problem”…

 

[Confucamus]

Yeah, pretty much what you said.

“They were mean to Trump so we are not going to pass legislature to tackle this problem”…

"Pretty much." lmao

 

[filthybliss]

"Pretty much." lmao

it was implied…and then you tripled down on it. “This what they get for hurting trump’s feelings and blocking his past legislature”.

Gimme a break, adding a “lmao” doesn’t make you look less retarded. When you make your entire brand “securing the border” and cancel it because of gripes….Its not a good look and just shows that border was never a big priority for you to begin with.

 

[RoastBeast]

Why would the Democrats put in effort on border security? It's their meal ticket to ensure we have more people in the future who are dependent on their nanny state.

Anything they say otherwise is just to temporarily garner votes.

 

[Scerpi]

So, we as conservatives can take comfort in this…right?

I wonder if her running mate will still plan to invest in a ladder factory in Mexico to help them cross.

I'd prefer her entire base and the media call her out on her and Democrats hypocritical bullshit. You know.... A reporter do their actual job and ask her why she changed her mind on the border.



And she should openly concede that Trump was on the right track after all