Hardest punch in the World? For real?

[TRYHARD 2001]

This has got to be a fucking Joke. Larry Holmes was a 40 year old man coming off back to back losses and Michael Spinks was a LHW. Tucker (who had a broken hand going into the fight),Thomas, and Andrew Golota are not close to Norton. Tyson didn't beat only cans, but his quality of wins is not that high

Again, I'm a Norton hater, but Holmes still had a lot left in the tank as he showed after he took his first KO loss (at 38). Those two losses were very controversial and the guy who beat him, Michael Spinks, was a legit 212 pound HW who Tyson also wiped out. Didn't know Tucker had a broken hand going into that fight, but Tucker was a very good, proven HW and Mike passed that test, going the distance with him. Other notable wins were over Alex Stewart (who gave Evander hell when he moved up), Carl Williams, and I'll throw Frank Bruno in there just cuz watching that guy get KO'd on his feet once was hilarious, but the second time .

Mike wasn't the GOAT, probably not in the Top 10, but the guy was an awesome, exciting fighter in his prime with punching power for days.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

knocking out bums, doesn't mean very much...

Funny to see someone who endorsed Wilder earlier in the thread now dismissing someone for fighting bums.
(When Wilder was 28-0 he fought someone on a 17 fight losing streak lol.)

Spong's punches have knocked out more elite fighters than Wilder's (albeit in kickboxing).

Anyway...im not saying who hits harder, it's not even my point about whether Spong's boxing knockouts mean much.

I was simply correcting your earlier statement that "ZERO" pro boxers have tried that machine.

 

[JabToucher]

Earnie Shavers and Shannon Briggs would hit harder imo

 

[Glove]

Geroge Foreman once stated that Gerry Cooney was the man who hit him the hardest.

 

[loisestrad]

Wilder or Joshua would render this "machine" unusable if they are ever allowed near it

Why would they do so? Cuz they are jealous of Ngannou hitting harder than them?

 

[boss429]

Wilder probably has the current hardest punch. All time is probably Ernie Shavers or George Foreman.

Possibly Sonny Liston or Jack Johnson too. The award probably goes to Ernie though.

 

[TerryMcSavage]

Hendricks did have the touch of death for a while there... And a varied striking /boxing skill set...

Then he started looking like the guy in this old neighborhood that use to by us beer and tell us what a badass he use to be... went all downhill from there.

Yeah, USADA and cheeseburgers really derailed his career!

 

[613]

Again, I'm a Norton hater, but Holmes still had a lot left in the tank as he showed after he took his first KO loss (at 38). Those two losses were very controversial and the guy who beat him, Michael Spinks, was a legit 212 pound HW who Tyson also wiped out. Didn't know Tucker had a broken hand going into that fight, but Tucker was a very good, proven HW and Mike passed that test, going the distance with him. Other notable wins were over Alex Stewart (who gave Evander hell when he moved up), Carl Williams, and I'll throw Frank Bruno in there just cuz watching that guy get KO'd on his feet once was hilarious, but the second time .

Mike wasn't the GOAT, probably not in the Top 10, but the guy was an awesome, exciting fighter in his prime with punching power for days.

When you say not in the top 10, you mean not in the top top 10 HWs right? Because he has no argument for being close to the top 10 P4P

And Holmes was 40, lost his last 2 fights to a LHW and was coming back from a 2 year lay off. Tyson beat some ok fighters, but no one great.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Wilder probably has the current hardest punch. All time is probably Ernie Shavers or George Foreman.

Nice to see Shavers getting some recognition.

 

[Alcibiades007]

Geroge Foreman once stated that Gerry Cooney was the man who hit him the hardest.

Iirc, he said it's between Cooney, Cleveland Williams and Ron Lyle , and when asked about Shavers he said "Never fought him. Thank God!"

Most ATGs agree that Shavers is the hardest puncher ever.

 

[PanicWrassler]

Obviously not.

Light Heavyweight boxers punch harder than that guy more than likely.

MMA fighters can't punch. Not compared to boxers.

Look at Conor McGregor, devastating puncher in MMA, had a boxing match and he can't punch a lick.

Mike Perry some kind of power striker in MMA, tried boxing and can't punch a lick.

The list goes on.

 

[AtlSteel]

No way. It's been this guy for decades

 

[Alcibiades007]

I wish we could go back in time to let past boxers and fighters punch this machine in their prime to create a power level list of sorts for punching power.

Ngannou- 129,000

Past Boxers/Fighters
Prime Carwin- 130,000
Prime Tyson- 145,000
Prime Foreman- 152,500
Prime Ernie Shavers- 160,000

Current
Wilder- 155,000
Rumble- 120,000

I'm a big Dragon Ball Z fan so this stuff is interesting to me

Marciano/Dempsey roided up to the gills during Tyson's era with modern training-Over 200,000

 

[House Adams]

Only if ko happened in opening seconds. Catching a guy cold.

Does your chin get better as the fight goes on?? Did the other fighter catch him “cold”?

That seems like a bit of cherry picking... welcome to your opinion... But don’t see how that plays much if a factor regarding a guys power.

Sure, maintaining power throughout an entire fight is impressive, but doesn’t mean guys don’t have ko power if they tire and have less KOs later in fights - many factors could play into that..

 

[NotA CleverName]

 

[Pressure Project]

Move this dorky ass thread to the boxing forum already.

 

[Ozze]

Who else hit like a Ford Escort going downhill at 200 mph carrying a 500 pounds of brick?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

This was like clearing fallen leafs with a nuclear weapon.

 

[bigconan]

Funny to see someone who endorsed Wilder earlier in the thread now dismissing someone for fighting bums.
(When Wilder was 28-0 he fought someone on a 17 fight losing streak lol.)

Spong's punches have knocked out more elite fighters than Wilder's (albeit in kickboxing).

Anyway...im not saying who hits harder, it's not even my point about whether Spong's boxing knockouts mean much.

I was simply correcting your earlier statement that "ZERO" pro boxers have tried that machine.

I don't remember ever endorsing wilder...Personally, I think Wilder is not a very skilled boxer...he wings punches. he hits hard, but that's about it....

 

[bigconan]

Holmes came into the fight off of a 2 year hiatus and lost cleanly. He was doing everything that lead him to success against so many others and BAM! he had the boom lowered on him like no one had ever done before, Shavers included. While he was certainly not in his athletic prime, this Larry Holmes went on to derail Ray Mercer, go the distance with Holyfield, and get robbed against McCall YEARS later. This was a big win against a legit killer for Tyson. Michael Spinks was a HW, and an elite one at that. He moved up from LHW 3 years before and weighed in at 212 for that one. He'd just TKO'd Cooney and had two decision wins over Holmes (I didn't agree with the decision in either one, but whatever). He was a legit HW and Tyson absolutely obliterated him. Tony Tucker and Pinklon Thomas are two of the most underrated boxers from a generation of underrated boxers in the early 80's. I'll admit that saying they were better wins than Norton was a stretch but not much of one as Ken was a fragile, fragile fighter that did not enjoy being pressured and folded. He was Ali's kryptonite and gave Holmes two tough fights, I just consistently see him being ranked somewhere he doesn't have the right to be. If you want, I can break down why they were absolutely not bums, but it's kinda late and I'd rather move on.

Losing to Holyfield is nothing to be ashamed of... it's what most people did against him, historically. The fact that Tyson fought him well past his physical and mental prime when he had nothing but yes men around him and was addled with more prescription drugs than a prime Johnny Cash doesn't detract from the original argument that he was a monster puncher and far from a can crusher. He lost cleanly to Buster Douglas, Holyfield, and Lewis and only one of those losses was when he was at his peak before a 4 year jail sentence. That's it. He was far from the GOAT but at his best he was a sight to behold. If Kevin Rooney had managed to stay on as his trainer Mike could've done a lot more for a lot longer but alas...

Foreman was a freakish puncher and I have no problem with you listing him as the hardest puncher of all time, but Mike Tyson really deserves to be mentioned right up there with him in my eyes. So does Lennox Lewis, but that's a story for another time.

Dude, michael spinks was a total joke at heavyweight...he was good at LH, but at heavyweight..no..beating gerry cooney means nothing...and he legit lost to holmes in the rematch...and i agree, tyson was a very good, dangerous puncher...but he had glaring holes in his game...and it did take a good boxer to exploit them...If you look at the fighters tyson fought...so many cans, it's crazy...