Hardest punch in the World? For real?

[ramair455]

I wish we could go back in time to let past boxers and fighters punch this machine in their prime to create a power level list of sorts for punching power.

Ngannou- 129,000

Past Boxers/Fighters
Prime Carwin- 130,000
Prime Tyson- 145,000
Prime Foreman- 152,500
Prime Ernie Shavers- 160,000

Current
Wilder- 155,000
Rumble- 120,000

I'm a big Dragon Ball Z fan so this stuff is interesting to me

Your leaving out Lennox Lewis.

 

[613]

I dont rank one over the other,its just different thats all. A different kind of power.

I mean... Foreman clearly hit harder. Tyson hit hard, but there are several boxers that hit harder. He didn't have many 1 punch KOs. His finishes were almost always punches in bunches. When he had you hurt he would swarm

 

[Black Mamba]

Tyson, Shavers, Foreman, Vitali, and Wilder are my top 5 hardest punchers

 

[Calipwnia]

Hendricks was the best WW by far during that period.

 

[bigconan]

Yep foreman from me too. He barely wound up on punches either. He just put his fists on you and you went down. Shows how tough frazier was. Got back up a few times from a prime monster foreman knock down. Julien jackson had freakish power too.

if you watch foreman throw is punches at frazier, the power is scary to watch...normally, it's hard to tell how hard someone hits, by just watching them.. but foremans power was frightning..to do that to someone as tough and as good as frazier, says alot...anyone can knock out a bunch of nobodies, cans, bums, but to knock out an undefeated, world champion, who just came off a win against ali...tells you everything.

 

[HIMBOB]

That cube is lucky Mike Russow didn’t smash it to pieces with thunderous hammerfists.

He would be decent. He did one punch KO seconds before the Hammerfist.

 

[bigconan]

Gentlemen for your information Tyrone Spong is a full-time professional heavyweight boxer and has been for a few years. He's 12-0 with 12 knockouts, hes the WBC Latin heavyweight champ and ranked #7 in the world by WBO (dubious).

Granted he hasn't faced any world class opponents in boxing, but he has a massive step up this Friday facing 31-1 Andy Ruiz (only loss a close decision to Joseph Please).

Just FYI

knocking out bums, doesn't mean very much...

 

[bigconan]

Larry Holmes, Tony Tucker, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Spinks, and Andrew Golota are all better wins than Ken Norton, IMO. With Ken Norton, he had the kind of style that gave slick fighters like Ali and Holmes trouble, but he could not hold up to aggressive power punchers early, as evidenced by what Foreman, Shavers, and Cooney did to him. Mike Tyson fought cans AND the best HW's of his era, generally winning those fights emphatically. He wasn't just a can crusher, that's a myth that's been perpetuated about the guy for far too long. His power was very close to the greatest power punchers of all-time, Foreman included.

Also, I'm sure it was just a turn of phrase, but you do realize that while Foreman was busy KO'ing Frazier, Mike was actually busy being about 8 years old, right?

not even close....holmes was retired, then game out of retirement to fight tyson..he was wayyyy past his prime...tony tucker, pinklon thomas?? Are you kidding me? those guys were f''king bums...tyson's biggest win was a light heavyweight who moved up, in michael spinks...forget norton....what about frazier? he was never even hurt in a fight...he was undefeated, only 4 guys went the distance with him up to that point...and he was coming off a win against ali...tyson literally lost every big fight he ever had...not counting the mediocre heavyweights you mentioned...the moment he fought someone that he couldn't bully, he was beaten and ko'd...by holyfield...and foreman, before he retired, had the highest ko % of any heavyweight in history...FACT....

 

[lolsnar]

if you watch foreman throw is punches at frazier, the power is scary to watch...normally, it's hard to tell how hard someone hits, by just watching them.. but foremans power was frightning..to do that to someone as tough and as good as frazier, says alot...anyone can knock out a bunch of nobodies, cans, bums, but to knock out an undefeated, world champion, who just came off a win against ali...tells you everything.

I will admit he threw very hard against frazier and ali.

 

[613]

Larry Holmes, Tony Tucker, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Spinks, and Andrew Golota are all better wins than Ken Norton, IMO.

This has got to be a fucking Joke. Larry Holmes was a 40 year old man coming off back to back losses and Michael Spinks was a LHW. Tucker (who had a broken hand going into the fight),Thomas, and Andrew Golota are not close to Norton. Tyson didn't beat only cans, but his quality of wins is not that high

 

[bigconan]

Just want to set the record straight here on that one point of yours; Oscar Bonavena dropped Frazier twice and had him in all kinds of trouble earlier on in Joe's career. Frazier's heart and toughness carried him through that and his subsequent title defense against Ali, but he had been hurt before. What Foreman did to him was just ridiculous though. It always amazes me that a guy who would turn into the nicest, most personable HW boxer of all-time was so incredibly angry in his younger years.

Big George wasn't slangin' no grills in the 70's!!!

he was a lean mean 217lbs for that fight...not the 255lbs he fought at in his later career....foreman was just a killer...too bad he just had a weakness against good boxers...his only 2 losses in his first career was ali and jimmy young...pretty sure foreman retired at the young fight...

 

[bigconan]

I will admit he threw very hard against frazier and ali.

go watch some of his videos of him hitting the heavy bag....reporters were saying, they've seen every heavy hitter at one time hit the bag...but foreman hitting it was like a baseball bat...he literally knocked the holding the bag back about 5 feet...he was caving in the bag....just scary freaken power.

 

[613]

not even close....holmes was retired, then game out of retirement to fight tyson..he was wayyyy past his prime...tony tucker, pinklon thomas?? Are you kidding me? those guys were f''king bums...tyson's biggest win was a light heavyweight who moved up, in michael spinks...forget norton....what about frazier? he was never even hurt in a fight...he was undefeated, only 4 guys went the distance with him up to that point...and he was coming off a win against ali...tyson literally lost every big fight he ever had...not counting the mediocre heavyweights you mentioned...the moment he fought someone that he couldn't bully, he was beaten and ko'd...by holyfield...and foreman, before he retired, had the highest ko % of any heavyweight in history...FACT....

The guy had scary explosiveness and crazy talent, but Tyson is probably the most overrated athlete ever (especially by MMA fans). With a different head on his shoulders, maybe he could have been a GOAT contender. But he never beat anyone great and folded anytime he faced adversity

 

[true_fan]

Russows hands are registered as weapons

 

[Pakman]

Probably thanos, he KO'D cap with one punch

I hate you. Leave Cap alone.

 

[Dorkman]

Yeah, it's probably Shavers. P4P it's gotta be Sam Langford tho. 1.71 dude who ko-ed World Champs from LW all the way to HW.

Yeah Shavers power was near otherworldly. Guy brought new meaning to throwing with bad intentions. I'd also have to suggest Julian Jackson as a p4p hardest puncher. That guy was a firecracker.

 

[PopeUrbanII]

Humans are not the strongest animals to have hands so I'd go with a silverback gorilla.

 

[HHJ]

Hendricks did have the touch of death for a while there... And a varied striking /boxing skill set...

Then he started looking like the guy in this old neighborhood that use to by us beer and tell us what a badass he use to be... went all downhill from there.

Only if ko happened in opening seconds. Catching a guy cold.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

not even close....holmes was retired, then game out of retirement to fight tyson..he was wayyyy past his prime...tony tucker, pinklon thomas?? Are you kidding me? those guys were f''king bums...tyson's biggest win was a light heavyweight who moved up, in michael spinks...forget norton....what about frazier? he was never even hurt in a fight...he was undefeated, only 4 guys went the distance with him up to that point...and he was coming off a win against ali...tyson literally lost every big fight he ever had...not counting the mediocre heavyweights you mentioned...the moment he fought someone that he couldn't bully, he was beaten and ko'd...by holyfield...and foreman, before he retired, had the highest ko % of any heavyweight in history...FACT....

Holmes came into the fight off of a 2 year hiatus and lost cleanly. He was doing everything that lead him to success against so many others and BAM! he had the boom lowered on him like no one had ever done before, Shavers included. While he was certainly not in his athletic prime, this Larry Holmes went on to derail Ray Mercer, go the distance with Holyfield, and get robbed against McCall YEARS later. This was a big win against a legit killer for Tyson. Michael Spinks was a HW, and an elite one at that. He moved up from LHW 3 years before and weighed in at 212 for that one. He'd just TKO'd Cooney and had two decision wins over Holmes (I didn't agree with the decision in either one, but whatever). He was a legit HW and Tyson absolutely obliterated him. Tony Tucker and Pinklon Thomas are two of the most underrated boxers from a generation of underrated boxers in the early 80's. I'll admit that saying they were better wins than Norton was a stretch but not much of one as Ken was a fragile, fragile fighter that did not enjoy being pressured and folded. He was Ali's kryptonite and gave Holmes two tough fights, I just consistently see him being ranked somewhere he doesn't have the right to be. If you want, I can break down why they were absolutely not bums, but it's kinda late and I'd rather move on.

Losing to Holyfield is nothing to be ashamed of... it's what most people did against him, historically. The fact that Tyson fought him well past his physical and mental prime when he had nothing but yes men around him and was addled with more prescription drugs than a prime Johnny Cash doesn't detract from the original argument that he was a monster puncher and far from a can crusher. He lost cleanly to Buster Douglas, Holyfield, and Lewis and only one of those losses was when he was at his peak before a 4 year jail sentence. That's it. He was far from the GOAT but at his best he was a sight to behold. If Kevin Rooney had managed to stay on as his trainer Mike could've done a lot more for a lot longer but alas...

Foreman was a freakish puncher and I have no problem with you listing him as the hardest puncher of all time, but Mike Tyson really deserves to be mentioned right up there with him in my eyes. So does Lennox Lewis, but that's a story for another time.

 

[rockylion]

Wilder or Joshua would render this "machine" unusable if they are ever allowed near it