Crime Guy RNCed on NY subway dies. Trial begins 10/21

[Fox by the Sea]

if people vote to have society destroying activists in positions of power, they get what they fucking deserve.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

The judges ruining our society need to be held accountable and removed from their positions immediately

 

[Mike]

The way they're just turning a blind eye to the situation in the cities? We're only gonna get more cases like this. It's not just places like new York. Here in Nevada we have people shitting and pissing in the streets, setting up little tent cities everywhere, wandering around having manic episodes often times just walking into traffic. Panhandlers and garbage everywhere.

 

[KnightTemplar]

As you can see in the post I made above, the entire case should officially be a mistrial as we speak now. They've decided to not follow legal procedure now that the original charge has failed.

If he is convicted, that legal shit-fuckery should be grounds for an immediate, and successful, appeal.

 

[Scerpi]

The way they're just turning a blind eye to the situation in the cities? We're only gonna get more cases like this. It's not just places like new York. Here in Nevada we have people shitting and pissing in the streets, setting up little tent cities everywhere, wandering around having manic episodes often times just walking into traffic. Panhandlers and garbage everywhere.

They’re spreading…

 

[Mike]

They’re spreading…

They're in any city I've seen that's larger than a village basically. We had them all over the Seattle area back in the 80s. But I don't think it's ever been as bad as it is now.

I just moved but before I did I'd take walks around the neighborhood sometimes and the shit looks like Detroit no joke. Obviously homeless people EVERYWHERE pushing luggage or shopping cart contraptions. Getting high and nodding out in the alleys or in old shitty totalled cars that are just everywhere. Pick a random street, homeless are passed out on the curb or in the alley.

It's hard to out into words the sheer fucking number of homeless people you see. They are just everywhere.

 

[nhbbear]

Funny how people around here will walk in and take a shit on a thread then congratulate themselves for a job well done.

I noticed the same. I have been in here since day 1, so my conscience is clear

 

[nhbbear]

I have to admit, I have not seen any mentions of protests over night or attempts to shut anything down. I am disappoint

 

[nhbbear]

They're in any city I've seen that's larger than a village basically. We had them all over the Seattle area back in the 80s. But I don't think it's ever been as bad as it is now.

I just moved but before I did I'd take walks around the neighborhood sometimes and the shit looks like Detroit no joke. Obviously homeless people EVERYWHERE pushing luggage or shopping cart contraptions. Getting high and nodding out in the alleys or in old shitty totalled cars that are just everywhere. Pick a random street, homeless are passed out on the curb or in the alley.

It's hard to out into words the sheer fucking number of homeless people you see. They are just everywhere.

I live in a small-mid size city. We have a lot for our population. We have tent cities that the city has been fighting with for two decades on whether they can or can’t restrict where they pop up. Right now, the city is winning but the alcu keeps trying to stick their nose in it. Downstate, the alcu sued a city for throwing away possessions even after advanced notice was put up and had been announced for months. When some people didn’t move their stuff, they finally cleaned everything up and then people came forward and said valuable family heirlooms were destroyed and the alcu sued and got these people money.

 

[nhbbear]

In order for progressive district attorneys to give you a pass, you have to be a shithead criminal first. They give no passes on first time offenders.

Philly da larry krasner will not prosecute felons with firearms if they are black because he said they are overwhelmingly over represented for that particular crime, however, a white felon caught with a handgun is free game. Felons with firearms are the reason there are so many bodies on the streets of Philly. Juveniles and felons. And he chooses not to prosecute them because he is a super progressive twat

 

[nhbbear]

Saw a tweet yesterday that it stuck in my head.
It asked "If you were a juror in the Daniel Perry case what would you say to the other jurors to convince them?"

After a multiple-week trial I guarantee you every of those jurors are motivated by issues not related to the facts of the case.
The jurors were never sequestered.
They've seen the media coverage.
They could go online and learn about all the facts about Neely & Penny.
They have emotionally invested in one being the victim and the other being the victimizer, and no one is going to budge.

So, what I would say is... my reasoning for why Daniel Penny should not even spend a single day of prison, and the fact the prosecutors pressed charges and it got to a trial has already been a miscarriage of justice.

"I will not under possible circumstances vote for a guilty verdict for either count. I am willing to sit in this room until the judge declares a mistrial, no matter if its days or weeks."

That would be my stance. I can’t say that it’s impossible for me to be swayed in this case because it depends on if the defense was able to create reasonable doubt. Not being in that courtroom, we are left to transcripts of the proceedings which is not the same. A dynamic speaker could sway jurors one way or the other. My thoughts are that there are two camps in this case and the jurors won’t budge on charge two either

 

[nhbbear]

It would be funny to see him roll off the bench and into his own piss or someone yank that fuck onto the floor into his own piss. Or pepper spray his junk would be a valuable life lesson, but society would rather we all just step around the piss and offer the guy a hug and a sandwich

 

[nhbbear]

Dude Penny is 26? He must have seen some shit, man. Looks at least 40.

Nah, I think he only looks old in the court drawn pics. They age him twenty years in those pics

 

[nhbbear]

If the alleged offender of the crime acted with criminal negligence, the appropriate charge would be criminally negligent homicide. If the alleged offender acted with recklessness, the appropriate charge would be manslaughter.​

Criminal negligence vs. recklessness​

Some legal experts consider the difference between criminal negligence and recklessness to be that recklessness involves a risk that you were actually aware of, whereas criminal negligence involves a risk that you should have been aware of.

While there are some exceptions, one way to conceptualize the difference is that criminal negligence involves the absence or lack of an action that should have been taken to protect others (i.e. failing to do something you should have done) whereas recklessness involves taking a course of action that causes harm (i.e. doing something that you should not have done).

Criminally Negligent Homicide vs Manslaughter Examples​

The best way to illustrate the difference between criminally negligent homicide and manslaughter is through examples.

Example #1 — Irresponsible Use of Firearms​

A case of criminally negligent homicide may involve a person failing to follow firearm safety precautions in a manner that results in their firearm going off unexpectedly in a crowded place and killing someone nearby. As the owner of a firearm, it was reasonably within their duty to ensure that they were operating their gun safely. Failing to do so is considered criminal negligence. When this criminal negligence results in a death, criminally negligent homicide has occurred.

Contrast that with this example of manslaughter: a person chooses to fire their gun in the middle of a crowded room, and one of the bullets ends up hitting someone and killing them. Because the offender in this example did not intended to hit or kill the victim, the crime is lacking intent to kill, meaning that they should not be charged with murder or capital murder. However, they did intend to shoot their gun in a crowded room. It is reasonable to assume that the holder of the gun was aware that shooting a gun in a crowded room meant there would be a great risk of hurting or killing someone. By ignoring this risk and choosing to fire their weapon anyway, they were being reckless and committed manslaughter.

Example #2 — Workplace Accident​

In this example scenario, you are tasked with safely putting up a shelf in your workplace. You are sufficiently trained and experienced to complete this task successfully, and you know that heavy objects will be stored on the shelf. While putting up the shelf, you do not sufficiently check your work and leave an anchor loose. Later on, when a coworker goes to get something off of the shelf, it collapses on them, killing them. Because your negligence while doing your job caused the shelf to fall on top of them and kill them and it was within your duty to ensure that the shelf was safely put together and secured, this might be criminally negligent homicide.

On the other hand, say you drop a heavy object down a stairwell to avoid having to carry it all the way. There happens to be someone at the bottom and the object strikes them, leading to their death. Because it is reasonable to assume that you knew how potentially dangerous it was to drop the object, this would be manslaughter.

I spent a career in law enforcement and it is still confusing to me. It doesn’t seem, by this definition or example, that he failed to do something. He did something that placed someone at risk, however justified some feel it was, so therefore, it would have been manslaughter and not negligence. So now that the manslaughter charge is dropped, the negligence doesn’t fit.

 

[nhbbear]

However much you hate liberals, you can't hate them enough. They will cheat, lie, collude, and then accuse you of all their illegal, criminal behavior. Just look at Biden's "91 counts" that blew up in his face, so he pardons his son between Feb 4th, 1970 through Jan 20th 2025 because Trump might use the DOJ as a political weapon

Leftwing radical prosecutors and judges denying Daniel Penny justice in this trial. Even if they convict him of the 2nd (and now only) charge in this case, it is RIPE to be overturned in appeal.

I hate liberals just fine, but I hate the far right as well. My wife and I can’t talk politics because she is a liberal. She wasn’t when we first started dating, but she is now. I still love her, we just can’t talk politics because compared to her, I am more conservative, but I sure af don’t consider myself a conservative because when someone says “conservative” it conjures an image in my head of someone maga-esque and I am definitely not maga. I am fucked, basically. I have no representation in government. No one I can look to and say-I agree with them(except Joe manchin, for some reason I like him). I am squarely in the middle and as time goes on, the poles are moving further away from the center.

 

[nhbbear]

lol. I started looking back through the carnage that was this thread. We lost a lot of greats since this thread came into life-queen b, bracklis, rob mafia

 

[irish_thug]

I live in a small-mid size city. We have a lot for our population. We have tent cities that the city has been fighting with for two decades on whether they can or can’t restrict where they pop up. Right now, the city is winning but the alcu keeps trying to stick their nose in it. Downstate, the alcu sued a city for throwing away possessions even after advanced notice was put up and had been announced for months. When some people didn’t move their stuff, they finally cleaned everything up and then people came forward and said valuable family heirlooms were destroyed and the alcu sued and got these people money.

You guys have a fairly disproportionate opioid problem due to your proximity to larger cities though don't you?

 

[Fergelmince]

I hate liberals just fine, but I hate the far right as well. My wife and I can’t talk politics because she is a liberal. She wasn’t when we first started dating, but she is now. I still love her, we just can’t talk politics because compared to her, I am more conservative, but I sure af don’t consider myself a conservative because when someone says “conservative” it conjures an image in my head of someone maga-esque and I am definitely not maga. I am fucked, basically. I have no representation in government. No one I can look to and say-I agree with them(except Joe manchin, for some reason I like him). I am squarely in the middle and as time goes on, the poles are moving further away from the center.

I'd bet you don't reside exactly down the middle. Everyone leans one way or the other, however slight it may be.

 

[TrueBias]

If he is convicted, that legal shit-fuckery should be grounds for an immediate, and successful, appeal.

And swiftly as possible. Or...is the guy in custody? How about if they go the stupid route, they just give him time served.


Deadlocked. My god, what kind of jerkoffs are in that jury. Then they drop the big charge for a lesser charge, making it easier to get a guilty. That's fucking sick.

This has likely been said, but I'm not reading thru 170+ pages of pissing and moaning. How can they not think giving him any guilty verdict is going to prevent everyone helping anyone? Even this trial is already stopping folks, I guarantee it.

 

[nhbbear]

You guys have a fairly disproportionate opioid problem due to your proximity to larger cities though don't you?

Huge issue. We have Cleveland thugs and Chicago thugs flooding the area to sell drugs. Have since the 90s. They brought with them huge drug operations and violence. Oddly enough, it took meth decades to come here. It didn’t start showing up until about 2015-2016.