Law Gun Control: A Global Overview

[filthybliss]

How about you shut about gun control when you don't want to do what is actually needed to stop the majority of gun violence.

what is your remedy for gun violence?

 

[oldshadow]

what is your remedy for gun violence?

Criminal control.

 

[spamking]

 

[spamking]

 

[Poon Goon]

Haven't seen this posted anywhere else so I thought this would be a good place to put it. Don't see it succeeding, but still interesting.

 

[My Spot]

Haven't seen this posted anywhere else so I thought this would be a good place to put it. Don't see it succeeding, but still interesting.

This happens every few years and goes nowhere but it's funny to see Dems all of sudden argue in favor of states' rights when it does come up.

 

[djacobox372]

what is your remedy for gun violence?

It wouldn't be what the dems are proposing, ie. banning specific weapon models used in just 3% of shootings.

Personally I'd be for extremely strict restrictions on handguns (similar to machine guns), and raising the age to purchase or possess a gun to 25yo. Let people keep their AR's and 30rd mags, so they can perform their 2A duty if the situation ever called for it.

 

[Deorum]

Listen to this fool . . . home visits . . . yeah right.

What The Fuck.

 

[Gutter Chris]

It wouldn't be what the dems are proposing, ie. banning specific weapon models used in just 3% of shootings.

Personally I'd be for extremely strict restrictions on handguns (similar to machine guns), and raising the age to purchase or possess a gun to 25yo. Let people keep their AR's and 30rd mags, so they can perform their 2A duty if the situation ever called for it.

Does this mean my ar is now my daily carry and no ones gonna even blink when I walk into Kroger looking like a gi joe guy ?

 

[pugilistico]

This thread has a very American centric perspective obviously. I personally don't think guns are the issue. I think there's a lot of blurry lines to be drawn.

There are countries with legal gun ownership that have very little gun-related crime and illegal guns.
There are countries with legal gun ownership that have a lot of gun-related crime and illegal guns.
There are countries where legal gun ownership is rare or extremely difficult that have very little gun-related crime and illegal guns.
There are countries where legal gun ownership is rare or extremely difficult that have a lot of gun-related crime and illegal guns.
There are countries with high rate of violent crime regardless of gun ownership.
There are countries with low rate of violent crime regardless of gun ownership.

It's obvious to me that guns aren't the deciding factor.
As an extreme example, I used to live in a society where literally everyone had guns (the army), and guys aren't killing each other willy nilly.
I travel a lot and am exposed to a lot of different cultures and I don't think it's a stretch to say that in some cultures are more violent than others. It's not a scientific argument but based on my personal observations.

Personally, I don't care if guns are illegal or not. I like guns but I don't need them, and I'd prefer to live in a place where I don't need them. But I'd also prefer to live in a place where I don't get stabbed for walking down an alley, and in that case, I'd prefer to have a gun.

Some people might not like to hear this but the united states is not the safest society in the world. Even if guns all magically disappeared tomorrow, I'd wager the US would have more knife crimes than many places in the world.

 

[Deorum]

Does this mean my ar is now my daily carry and no ones gonna even blink when I walk into Kroger looking like a gi joe guy ?

It's such a profoundly absurd sight if nothing else, nobody wants to do that shit. I don't even open carry my handgun in a state where I have every right to do so; it draws extra attention that I'm not looking for and don't want. If I'm lugging an AR around in public on a sling, the country has collapsed.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

This clip basically sums up the entire argument.

 

[Deorum]

I am not a huge gun rights guy but part of me feels like regulating further access is just a band-aid solution for a deeper problem.

You should buy yourself a Glock for your 21st B-Day. And really, just about any striker-fired polymer pistol from a reputable manufacturer will do at this point. Glock is to striker-fired pistols like Kleenex is to tissue paper.

I actually used to hate them, @Gutter Chris. I thought I'd be a 357 Magmum man for life, but I eventually gave in. The design, durability, and ease of operation of them is undeniably and utterly ingenious. The added capacity certainly doesn't hurt either.

 

[Gutter Chris]

You should buy yourself a Glock for your 21st B-Day. And really, just about any striker-fired polymer pistol from a reputable manufacturer will do at this point. Glock is to striker-fired pistols like Kleenex is to tissue paper.

I actually used to hate them, @Gutter Chris. I thought I'd be a 357 Magmum man for life, but I eventually gave in. The design, durability, and ease of operation of them is undeniably and utterly ingenious. The added capacity certainly doesn't hurt either.

I came into the game on a glock 21 and a s and w 629 . Loved that .44 and it's probably a huge reason I became a 10mm guy. Non glocks feel super odd to me and I feel like if you are going to trust your life to something it should be what you are most familiar with. Love the 21 and do carry it in the fall and winter alot.

I should get myself a glock 20 at some point.

 

[Deorum]

I came into the game on a glock 21 and a s and w 629 . Loved that .44 and it's probably a huge reason I became a 10mm guy. Non glocks feel super odd to me and I feel like if you are going to trust your life to something it should be what you are most familiar with. Love the 21 and do carry it in the fall and winter alot.

I should get myself a glock 20 at some point.

Damn, you carry heavy. My daily used to be a Ruger SP101 pocket rocket. @My Spot claims Glock has been surpassed by S&W, at least in the realm of sub-compacts and I'm inclined to take his word for it -- not only because I simply trust him, but because I copped a twin set of cheap little Stoeger STR subbies for 400 bucks just to fuck around and have fun with. I've been shocked by the ergonomics, performance, and overall quality of them compared to the G26. It's not superior, but they can hang for a fraction of the price. I'm almost at the point where I'd actually trust one with my life.

 

[Poon Goon]

Damn, you carry heavy. My daily used to be a Ruger SP101 pocket rocket. @My Spot claims Glock has been surpassed by S&W, at least in the realm of sub-compacts and I'm inclined to take his word for it -- not only because I simply trust him, but because I copped a twin set of cheap little Stoeger STR subbies for 400 bucks just to fuck around and have fun with. I've been shocked by the ergonomics, performance, and overall quality of them compared to the G26. It's not superior, but they can hang for a fraction of the price. I'm almost at the point where I'd actually trust one with my life.

I have a S&W Shield Plus and I really like it. Had the Ruger LCP Max for a pocket pistol and it felt pretty cheap. Sold that and got the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0. Feels like an ultra mini Shield and it is fun to shoot. Of course it's only 380, but I like the shit out of that little thing.

 

[My Spot]

Damn, you carry heavy. My daily used to be a Ruger SP101 pocket rocket. @My Spot claims Glock has been surpassed by S&W, at least in the realm of sub-compacts and I'm inclined to take his word for it -- not only because I simply trust him, but because I copped a twin set of cheap little Stoeger STR subbies for 400 bucks just to fuck around and have fun with. I've been shocked by the ergonomics, performance, and overall quality of them compared to the G26. It's not superior, but they can hang for a fraction of the price. I'm almost at the point where I'd actually trust one with my life.

Well there's absolutely nothing wrong with still buying Glock. But S&W's M&P line has been proven just as reliable by now and are typically $50 to $75 cheaper (M&P Shield Plus vs 43X, for example). Also Glock should be ashamed for still using plastic sights. I think the stock trigger is better too but obviously that's subjective.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Well there's absolutely nothing wrong with still buying Glock. But S&W's M&P line has been proven just as reliable by now and are typically $50 to $75 cheaper (M&P Shield Plus vs 43X, for example). Also Glock should be ashamed for still using plastic sights. I think the stock trigger is better too but obviously that's subjective.

I love glocks ..... but I kind of dont feel like they have really made anything new to wow the gun world in a minute.

Hellcat is a cool little gun and glock should make themselves a version of it

And they still havent made my medium framed 10 either and I still very much want one.

Does sig make 10 in medium ?

 

[Gutter Chris]

Damn, you carry heavy. My daily used to be a Ruger SP101 pocket rocket. @My Spot claims Glock has been surpassed by S&W, at least in the realm of sub-compacts and I'm inclined to take his word for it -- not only because I simply trust him, but because I copped a twin set of cheap little Stoeger STR subbies for 400 bucks just to fuck around and have fun with. I've been shocked by the ergonomics, performance, and overall quality of them compared to the G26. It's not superior, but they can hang for a fraction of the price. I'm almost at the point where I'd actually trust one with my life.

I've always liked the big boys and since that's where I started I've developed the grips and flinch resistance and all the skills required to carry a gun with a bit more recoil with confidence.

I think there's also a little of the punk thing still in me where if everyone carries a 9 I gotta be special. I don't think 10 mm is as bad as a lot of people like to talk about it unless you are firing the hottest of the hot. I can Mozambique with most rounds I've shot without any issues.

First thing I said to my buddy when I fired my first 6 out of that .44 is " I want this in a glock"

I seriously love my glock 29 and I do not understand why more people don't agree with me about how awesome it is. Only complaint is I would like a bit more in the grip. Finger plates aren't a bad solution but every once in a while you get pinched real bad and it hurts like a son of a bitch when that happens.

 

[Gutter Chris]

@My Spot

I carry hornady rounds in my 29 as my non range ammo

Am I really shooting 10 mil or am i shooting glorified 40? They function well in the gun and from what I was reading they performed great on gel ....but I also keep reading unless you are rocking buffalo you aren't really shooting true 10 mil