Throwback GSP vs Bisping revisited

GSP's "Double champ" status is the weakest in all of mma. Cherry picking a one eyed Bisping then retiring immediately after was lame af.
 
It was definitely a Bellator level fight aka a circus but I don't take it that seriously. Bisping stylistically matches up with GSP better than many would think Prime vs Prime because he is a former 205er, great cardio, has underrated wrestling that even Chael struggled with, and his biggest weakness (chin) is not really threatened by Georges (but it did eventually let him down).

I don't think either were in their primes at this point but at least Bisping had been very active whereas Georges was noticeably rusty/blown up and fighting way above his natural weight.

As boring as I found GSP during his reign and as pointless as this fight was, I've forgiven him for his part in this in the years since because really, you can't fault the guy too much for coming back for a big payday when he probably got paid a fraction of what he should have in his heyday. Genuine LOL @ anyone thinking Woodley would have drawn a fraction of the same money as Bisping.

Did GSP duck Whittaker and Yoel? Yes. However, should he really have been expected to fight the best of the best MWs years after retirement when he's not a MW? IMO no.

I blame the UFC for this and think that the matchmaking of Bisping's unexpected reign is a shining example of why people shouldn't take this "sport" that seriously.

Bisping vs Henderson 2 and Bisping vs GSP both would have been highly marketable fights without the belt on the line but the UFC got greedy and shafted their actual contenders for a few extra buys. Not the first time it's happened and won't be the last but I don't fault the name fighters for getting paid. The belt still made its way to Whittaker/Yoel eventually and we got a few fun fights even if they were more fluff than substance.

Also, I do find it funny how much flack GSP takes for fighting the current champion and yet BJ Penn gets slobbered over for being willing to fight Renzo Gracie lol Bisping might have been a paper champion but at least he'd been consistently ranked for years.

TL/DR: It was a silly fight that didn't help Georges' legacy but IMHO it didn't hurt it that much either. It was a borderline exhibition with good marketing
 
1. Bisping did major damage from the bottom. GSP wanted no part of top position.
2. Bisping probably never saw the left hook because his right eye was cooked.
3. Both fighters were past their prime, so it's probably moot. GSP won the fight, and he probably would have won if they were still in their primes.
 
Brutus....... said:
Even when GSP steps up in weight and finishes the champ in a methodical fashion, people still want to find ways to downplay it.

If anything, it probably highlights how shallow MW really was. GSP hadn't finished a fight at WW in years.
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Yup, when guys downplay it, they indirectly shit on Anderson Silva and Dan Henderson and I'm sure most don't realize this when they say it.
 
I remember thinking Bisping was gaining momentum in that fight and I was worried for GSP (who I was rooting for).

The fight was really close and GSP knocking down somebody was unexpected at least for me.
 
chinarice said:
Yup, when guys downplay it, they indirectly shit on Anderson Silva and Dan Henderson and I'm sure most don't realize this when they say it.
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Anderson was 40 when he fought Bisping and Henderson was 46... The fact Bisping barely scraped by both those fights with senior citizens is WHY Gsp came out of retirement.
 
There's a lot of historical revisionism about this fight. The odds were nearly even, GSP had the long layoff (hadn't fought for 4 years), had a significant size disadvantage (was battling colitis putting on weight for 185-lbs), and stylistically that's not an easy fight for someone who is wrestling-heavy, considering Bisping's TDD (nullified a good amount of prime Sonnen's grappling; many thought he won that), getups, output/pace, kickboxing, and being the bigger man.





"Crazy. At the time I'm looking at this, GSP has a 51% versus 49% advantage by 5k + reddit users.

Over on Tapology, Bisping is a 51% favorite."

A lot of fighters and fans were picking Bisping. It was essentially evenly split, but now it's like it was a layup all along. GSP wasn't even able to successfully work his top game later in the fight, couldn't get anything going and was getting sliced by elbows from bottom, and possibly gassing. If he didn't land that left hook, it was starting to look like Bisping's fight. People saying Bisping had 1 eye, when that didn't stop him from beating Silva or KO'ing Rockhold... Bisping wasn't a strong champion, but he was the undisputed, lineal #1 MW.
 
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ExitLUPin said:
There's a lot of historical revisionism about this fight. The odds were nearly even, GSP had the long layoff (hadn't fought for 4 years), had a significant size disadvantage (was battling colitis putting on weight for 185-lbs), and stylistically that's not an easy fight for someone who is wrestling-heavy, considering Bisping's TDD (nullified a good amount of prime Sonnen's grappling; many thought he won that), getups, output/pace, kickboxing, and being the bigger man.





"Crazy. At the time I'm looking at this, GSP has a 51% versus 49% advantage by 5k + reddit users.

Over on Tapology, Bisping is a 51% favorite."

A lot of fighters and fans were picking Bisping. It was essentially evenly split, but now it's like it was a layup all along. GSP wasn't even able to successfully work his top game later in the fight, couldn't get anything going and was getting sliced by elbows from bottom, and possibly gassing. If he didn't land that left hook, it was starting to look like Bisping's fight. People saying Bisping had 1 eye, when that didn't stop him from beating Silva or KO'ing Rockhold... Bisping wasn't a strong champion, but he was the undisputed, lineal #1 MW.
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He opted to fight Bisping instead of that flash in the pan, overrated clown Woodley. Beating him meant less and that's a fact.

Woodley was terrible against any fighter who wasn't a 1 dimensional fighter.

Dude literally lost a standup fight to Jake Shields. Clowned by Rory bad.
 
fendertach said:
GSP's "Double champ" status is the weakest in all of mma. Cherry picking a one eyed Bisping then retiring immediately after was lame af.
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It actually isn't, mostly because a lot of the other ones are fairly weak.

Bones - Ngannou was the lineal #1 HW; he beat placeholder Gane

Cejudo - Won a vacant BW title against Moraes, who was extremely dangerous and a top BW, but not a champion

Couture - Won both UFC LHW and HW titles, but UFC was the B-Leagues to PRIDE then; what Couture did was the equivalent of a PFL double champ today

Cormier - Was always a paper champ at LHW considering Bones was always the lineal #1 LHW

Topuria - Won a vacant title against Oliveira, when Makhachev was obviously the lineal #1 LW

GSP, Poatan, Makhachev, McGregor, Nunes were the double champs who were the lineal #1 fighter in 2 divisions. Penn was as well; he was the lineal #1 WW when he beat Hughes, but #1 LW was solidified at Rumble on the Rock against Gomi, not in the UFC against Uno for the vacant title. Hendo is very legit too considering the strength of PRIDE's divisions being seen as the best at the time (MW/LHW/HW). Bustamante was also the UFC MW champ when he left for PRIDE, and never lost at 185-lbs until the Hendo fight. And then he obviously beat Wand for the LHW title.
 
orca said:
no he wouldnt

your post doesnt make sense

jones would kill any version of bisping

btw you like bringing jones name

what an honorable act by gsp fighting a 1 eyed over the hill bisping
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chinarice said:
He opted to fight Bisping instead of that flash in the pan, overrated clown Woodley. Beating him meant less and that's a fact.

Woodley was terrible against any fighter who wasn't a 1 dimensional fighter.

Dude literally lost a standup fight to Jake Shields. Clowned by Rory bad.
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Dana actually tried to make the Woodley match-up, until the awful Maia performance. It was supposed to be Bisping-Whittaker, but Whittaker was medically suspended until early 2018.
 
I remember it being competitive but GSP clearly winning. I hope to rewatch soon.

Mike was always tough, his chin and eyes failed him.
 
fendertach said:
GSP's "Double champ" status is the weakest in all of mma. Cherry picking a one eyed Bisping then retiring immediately after was lame af.
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Factually incorrect. His is literally one of the best. Lol wtf. Imagine trying to sell Henry Cejudo's titles aren't weaker.... literally arguably lost the FLW title fight then fought a guy who never was a champ for a vacant 135 title and defended it against a guy who wasn't even a top10 BW lol
 
Substance Abuse said:
Bisping had one eye. Georges was a confirmed cherry picker. It is what it is.
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He had one eye when he beat Belcher, Le, Hendo, Anderson, Luke among others. Was GSP supposed to choose a non champion MW? Jacare turned down Luke, Yoel would have missed weight.
 
chinarice said:
Beat the guy who just came off back to back to back wins over Anderson Silva, Luke Rockhold and Dan Henderson who all fought the same Bisping lol

Also, Georges was already past his prime prior to retiring after needing ACL surgery and was like 4 years retired.... It was what it was.
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Hahaha are we acting like Anderson wasn’t 40, and Hendo wasn’t 46?

Bisping got dropped twice by Hendo and barely won a decision.

Dude was a bum, there’s a reason GSP took the fight, then tucked tail immediately after.
 
MDoza said:
Hahaha are we acting like Anderson wasn’t 40, and Hendo wasn’t 46?

Bisping got dropped twice by Hendo and barely won a decision.

Dude was a bum, there’s a reason GSP took the fight, then tucked tail immediately after.
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Are we still pretending Bisping didn't fight both of them with 1 fucking eye? Lol but they were older, bro! Pretty sure 1 eye kinda makes it even at worst.
 
fendertach said:
GSP's "Double champ" status is the weakest in all of mma. Cherry picking a one eyed Bisping then retiring immediately after was lame af.
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No it isn't. He beat an actual lineal champ to get both his belts. You cant say that abiut ilia, Jones, DC, and cejudo, for example.

Also, he did it after a 4 year break.
 
chinarice said:
Are we still pretending Bisping didn't fight both of them with 1 fucking eye? Lol but they were older, bro! Pretty sure 1 eye kinda makes it even at worst.
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Alright then. You are giving GSP a ton of credit for beating a one-eyed man.. 🤣
 
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