***gsp did press conferences for years and actually defended his belt***

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Cant compare the two. Conor has alot more pressure to sell the fight than gsp does. He makes the magic happen,crowd hangs off every word. No doubt it must be exhausting.
 
I don't even bother with these assholes anymore. Rasslin and bjpenngoat will be somewhere in here spewing their shit. I get bjpenngoat's hate. GSP trashed his boy. His corner had to save him. But this rasslin guy. With his fruity avatar. I'm convinced this guy is actually a stalker that has been told by GSP to fuck right off. Some people never get over having their sexual advances refused. They think they know the person they see in the media. Really sad people that are just in need of real professional help.

The rest of the haters... Fuck them. Just like Nate I have the comeback to demolish anything they ever say. I just don't bother anymore. Just because some petty assholes have no life. Doesn't mean I'm gonna indulge their pathetic obsessive creepier than fuck behaviour.

In short. They can all fuck right off.

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You seem very offended by people in just 10 days.
 
He didn't fight as often and they weren't as big as Conor's media. Ever Conor press conference is an event.

But more importantly, a GSP press conference isn't a Conor McGregor press conference. GSP was never an interesting guy, and was just a typical professional athlete giving typical athlete answers. Conor's changed the game, and his persona is a huge reason for his success.
 
Gsp era was amazing, and Conor era was fun too. Just like Conor now, George had people hating on him for stupid reasons.

When these guys are on top of the world, you all wanna see them fall. When they're gone you miss them and the way things used to be. Just appreciate them now while they're around instead of acting emo over nothing.
 
GSP fought once 1-2 times a year....his last few years it was


lol Nate used to fight at 170 and do very well, wasnt until he fought Rory he decided to cut. Both are big for their current divisions, Nate is definitely the bigger man though....if you cant plainly see that from watching them fight and stand side by side...you're facts are fucked up.
Nate tried to fight at 170 twice and was completely out-sized and out-muscled. He went back down because he didn't belong there. It was a failed experiment. Nate is longer but he's not as stocky as Conor. He may be slightly bigger but it's far less than the difference of a weight class. They belong in there together in terms of weight, although Conor can make the extreme weight cut to avoid him. Conor is of a size with the LW champion who dominated Nate.
 
Want to be champion

Want to be a pro

Look at gsp

My God. I ride GSP's balls as hard as anyone around here, and I even I think this is a stupid fucking comparison.

GSP never had the media tours Conor is being asked to do. GSP never had to travel continuously to a different continent.

And most importantly, it's not like Conor has ignored press conferences, or said anything about it until now. Conor is pushing back against what he believes is an excessive amount of interviews, which require constant travel.


I mean FFS. Conor is who he is because of how he's handled media engagements. Few have done it as well as Conor. Conor's done more in press conferences to generate money than Nate has, that's for fucking sure.
 
Nate tried to fight at 170 twice and was completely out-sized and out-muscled. He went back down because he didn't belong there. It was a failed experiment. Nate is longer but he's not as stocky as Conor. He may be slightly bigger but it's far less than the difference of a weight class. They belong in there together in terms of weight, although Conor can make the extreme weight cut to avoid him. Conor is of a size with the LW champion who dominated Nate.

That's completely wrong. He's fought at that weight 5 times now, 4 times before Conor.
 
That's completely wrong. He's fought at that weight 5 times now, 4 times before Conor.
I wasn't counting Conor since that was not a legit 170 lb match. Who did he fight at 170 besides Rory and Dong? Or are you counting missing weight for some stupid reason? Was it some of his earliest fights when he wasn't anywhere close to the top of the sport? Because if so, that doesn't really help the argument. So far as I can tell he fought 170 pounders twice at the UFC level and went back down because he clearly didn't belong. That's how I remember it but apparently your narrative is different.
 
Different game now TS. No world tours, no Conan, Late Night, GMA, etc., etc. GSP put in work, but the media demand for Conor the past couple of years has been much greater.
 
I wasn't counting Conor since that was not a legit 170 lb match. Who did he fight at 170 besides Rory and Dong? Or are you counting missing weight for some stupid reason?

No.

Was it some of his earliest fights when he wasn't anywhere close to the top of the sport? Because if so, that doesn't really help the argument.

No. It was his two fights right before DHK and Rory. On two UFC PPVs. A significant ones as well, Edgar vs Penn 2. You must be new to the sport. Started watching after 2010, huh?

So far as I can tell he fought 170 pounders twice at the UFC level and went back down because he clearly didn't belong. That's how I remember it but apparently your narrative is different.

He fought and beat Marcus Davis and Rory Markham. Finished both handily. Markham missed weight even, and Diaz put him away in under 3 minutes with his boxing, which is pretty impressive. Then he beat Marcus Davis up on the feet for 2 rounds, before choking him out. Again, beat him up easily.

Even against DHK, he had his moments, and had a big momentum swing there at the end.

Then Rory showed him what it's like to fight an elite WW.
 
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No. It was his two fights right before DHK and Rory. On two UFC PPVs. A significant ones as well, Edgar vs Penn 2. You must be new to the sport. Started watching after 2010, huh?

Not remotely. Watched my first few UFCs when in the mid nineties. Carried on with some Pride stuff over the years and have been watching the UFC pretty faithfully since 2006, and watched every backlogged UFC at that point. I remember Edgar Penn 2 (and 1) specifically but I don't remember every single fight the same, obviously.



He fought and beat Marcus Davis and Rory Markham.

I was thinking of Markus Davis is a LW since he's fought there plenty of times. I forgot he was fighting higher then and he moved down right after. Rory Markham isn't really on my radar tbh and wasn't much of a factor there. The Diaz fight was his last ever. But the point still stands. He went up and couldn't compete at that weight class at an elite level in large part due to his size. He was a long-time LW fighter before that and he's been a long-time LW fighter since then. He even competed on TUF as a LW and usually if you aren't fighting in your own weight class, you are moving up for TUF, not down. If you are a really massive fighter for your weight class, you probably can't even manage to make the weight. I don't think Conor could do it on a 145 lb season without losing muscle mass first, going below what he usually has at 145.

Finished both handily. Markham missed weight even,

That's not really something to recommend his condition or fighting ability coming in. It'd be a more convincing WW win if he didn't miss weight.

and Diaz put him away in under 3 minutes with his boxing, which is pretty impressive. Then he beat Marcus Davis up on the feet for 2 rounds, before choking him out. Again, beat him up easily.

Even against DHK, he had his moments, and had a big momentum swing there at the end.

Then Rory showed him what it's like to fight an elite WW.

He dropped two in a row at WW and moved back down. You think he'd be better at WW than he is at LW? I remember him saying essentially that it was a failed experiment and he just doesn't have the size, or maybe that was his brother saying that about him.
 
Not remotely. Watched my first few UFCs when in the mid nineties. Carried on with some Pride stuff over the years and have been watching the UFC pretty faithfully since 2006, and watched every backlogged UFC at that point. I remember Edgar Penn 2 (and 1) specifically but I don't remember every single fight the same, obviously.





I was thinking of Markus Davis is a LW since he's fought there plenty of times. I forgot he was fighting higher then and he moved down right after. Rory Markham isn't really on my radar tbh and wasn't much of a factor there. The Diaz fight was his last ever. But the point still stands. He went up and couldn't compete at that weight class at an elite level in large part due to his size. He was a long-time LW fighter before that and he's been a long-time LW fighter since then. He even competed on TUF as a LW and usually if you aren't fighting in your own weight class, you are moving up for TUF, not down. If you are a really massive fighter for your weight class, you probably can't even manage to make the weight. I don't think Conor could do it on a 145 lb season without losing muscle mass first, going below what he usually has at 145.



That's not really something to recommend his condition or fighting ability coming in. It'd be a more convincing WW win if he didn't miss weight.



He dropped two in a row at WW and moved back down. You think he'd be better at WW than he is at LW? I remember him saying essentially that it was a failed experiment and he just doesn't have the size, or maybe that was his brother saying that about him.

Firstly, this long post is basically a long way of distracting from the point that...



YOU WERE WRONG.



Secondly, I never suggested he was better higher up. He just never tried to make a point of it. His problems there weren't of size. He lost to grapplers who matched up poorly with his BJJ style. Heavy top game players with strong takedowns. It's the same problem he's always had at LW, even now.

 
Firstly, this long post is basically a long way of distracting from the point that...



YOU WERE WRONG.



Secondly, I never suggested he was better higher up. He just never tried to make a point of it. His problems there weren't of size. He lost to grapplers who matched up poorly with his BJJ style. Heavy top game players with strong takedowns. It's the same problem he's always had at LW, even now.
Well you're a pretty petty little individual, aren't you? First acting like it's such a big deal if I'd started watching MMA in 2010 and then this. I was wrong that those were his only two fights at WW but my point still stands that he wasn't right for the weight class. Nick is a WW and Nate is significantly smaller. That's the reality.

A size difference is exacerbated by wrestling/strong top game stylists. If you have someone that is willing to stand with you, a difference in mass can be overcome more readily. Size is of obvious concern and if you think it is irrelevant to what weight class you fit in best at, you may have been watching for a long time but you may as well not because you are lost in the sauce. Diaz has a better chance of working his game at LW than he does against even larger opponents. His holes at LW become glaring weaknesses at WW.
 
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