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I have too much fun in these shitty, random internet arguments, lol
GSP beat more MMA champions than Jon Jones
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Bro I have nothing against GSP but he did say that he wanted to defend the belt. But after beating Ping, he got collitis. Plus he has entertenained a potential bout against Silva for years altough he could have just say that the he wanted no part of him cause he was too big and too skilled. Silva admit it about Jones and that last should admit it about Aspinal lol.
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IIRC Dana was the one completely against them fighting each other. The champ v champ seal was finally broken with Conor after silva and gsp were old news.
Im not sure i follow your last sentence. Its very oddly written
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@bjpenngoat I need another goat thread from you buddy
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You argue online like a redditor. You deny what's in front of you. You deny reality.
Except you deny facts, you pretend things don't happen cuz you can't handle it. And then you pat your own back LOL
Nope. Actually most people on mma forums are just like you. Lapping up Dana and JBJ talking points. But please tell us how you're such an independent thinker for the 50th time while you prove otherwise.
Well so much for being an independent thinker
What will you conclude if Jon then asks for something else or something more?
Hopefully the fight does happen within 1 year... not on some crazy long timeline due to jon stalling
We can say with conviction that Jon himself said he's "ready to vacate" and that "he doesn't want to fight Tom", a dangerous young opponent... but sure go ahead believe him when he says he's not worried about losing. Please Mr. Independent thinker, believe Dana when he says Jon said something else behind closed doors.
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Except you conveniently leave out what Jon himself said and I quoted above which is him literally saying he doesnt want that fight lol
Welp at least I got you to give an inch on the absurd certainties you were declaring lol... again not that it matters. At least to me it doesn't but I'm sure this will force you to come back for more cuz youbhave no self control
Again with the projection. You write out 500 words just to say "I'm right cuz I'm smart and you're wrong cuz your dumb" all because you want to make yourself out to be some deep philosophical thinker on an online mma forum
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And yet whenever I get into arguments here, people assuming I'm raging out the ass. I don't get why people can't just see how someone can enjoy arguing
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Yeah, I feel you. I think we're all a bit different though. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a lawyer. So, I kind of enjoy debating about pretty much anything, likely to a fault.
Not everyone has that disposition though, if you challenge ideas that people hold to their heart, it becomes very personal for a lot of people. Almost like you're attacking a part of what makes them who they are.
Tricky stuff to navigate. Ideally I think the goal is to be able to argue and debate anything, without having it all devolve into chaos.
Very easy for that to happen and we all sort of succumb to it, lol. It can be very easy to make it personal, even when it wasn't intended to be that.
But with age and maturity comes wisdom, I think we sort of slowly begin to approach it all differently. Not without a few messy debates along the way though.
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jones fought fighters averaging 29-34 years old
he was like 21 years old fighting prime men
statistic says average LHWs prime was 32-34 years old
imagine a kid fighting prime men
also jones hasnt even outweighed anyone he fought
these are all facts
havent seen anyone say alex pereira is a weight bully
the dude out heights and outweighs all his opponents
also gsp was a massive WW in his time
are you cherry picking the fighters you love?
do you hate facts?
can you post evidence that jones outweighs people he fought?
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wtf you mean il just do cardio
punch and kick stuff il have a body like gsp bro?>
gsps shoulders are almost as big as his head
do you want me to post images of natural bodybuilders?
gsp outmuscles them by just doing cardio lmfao
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The only reason why Matt Serra can be counted on the list of "champions" that GSP beat was because GSP lost to him in one of the hugest choke-losses in UFC history.
That needs an asterix, at least. Also missing from your list is the number of genuine losses suffered by each. GSP - 2, Jones - 0.
And I'm not talking about whether the 12-to-6 strike was a good rule or not. The fight with Hamill was a DQ loss because the ref paused it because of those strikes, and Hamill had indicated he could not continue. But that was a communication issue with the deaf Hamill, because the reason he could not continue was not due to those strikes, but because his shoulder was dislocated when Jones body-slammed him.
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The fact that so many of his opponents could even make 185 is testament to how Jones is naturally bigger than them, Jones could never make 185. I don't personally hold that against Jones though considering those other guys still proved their merit at 205.
Weak point considering GSP also dominated in him in his area of specialty in the third fight.
That's not all he did though? He has literally said on JR pod that he would lift weights specifically for aesthetic reasons, GSP's size is naturally attainable for many guys. You can speculate all you want but Jones is the one with the failed drug tests.
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Tell me how Vitor Belfort's LHW reign went.
Still better than posting an L to a non champ like Hamill
Excuses for a cheater. It doesn't matter what is or isn't a good rule, you just need to follow them in order to compete as a fighter and Jones had demonstrated repeatedly that he can't, so he's not a better fighter. Even if the foul didn't cause the injury, Matt was continuing with the injury before the end, but had to be stopped because of the foul
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List is inaccurate
You mistakenly listed Hughes and Penn twice
GSP also lost to Sera and Hughes
Jones also beat Glover Texiera UFC LHW champion
Vladimir Vladimirovich Matyushenk IFL lighthw champion
Shogun was also Pride FC champion and Cormier was SF HW winner
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Fedor was the one natty guy in an organization that gave fighters steroids?
and GSP was in an era with rife steroids pre-USADA, he was, natty?
All TS is trying to do is pad GSP wins over champions.
Everyone on this site knows Jones has had the tougher competition and is the consensus GOAT across the board. People on this site are just stubborn to admit it.
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It's never not funny when people try and say X fighter has more ranked fights than Jones.
All you have to do is respond that Jones has 17 title wins, let alone ranked wins outside that, so they're obviously fucking retarded as there's 17 alone which would be a top 5 all time record at least.
Not a single one of the other GOATS is making it through 17 title fights without a loss. You know considering they literally did not.
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