Social Greta Thunberg Megathread

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Lmao what the fuck are on about...

It’s called reality

 

[trac209]

Yes, the typical nothing Conservative argument, it's either 'Liberals want to Ban hamburgers and airplanes', or, We Just Keep things as they are and let God sort it out.

You don't think that there MIGHT be a middle between Eating bugs and leaves, and Not eating like a gluttonous lard ass? That maybeee everyone owning gas guzzling SVUs isn't something we should be encouraging? No is calling for whatever retarded dystopia you people keep whining about. It's about common sense, and stop treating the planet like a garbage can.

Your last sentence is a given to most countries....you want a middle ground stop the hysteria over every little idea you come up with in all factions of life. Conservatives aren’t wanting to eat like pigs and fill the ocean with plastic.

 

[Slick_36]

Your last sentence is a given to most countries....you want a middle ground stop the hysteria over every little idea you come up with in all factions of life. Conservatives aren’t wanting to eat like pigs and fill the ocean with plastic.

No but they have no problem lifting regulation after regulation if it's in the interest of corporate profits.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Or maybe taking some action now so we don't have to live on bug burgers. Not that I have any issue with bug burgers, but I was raised out in the country, city bitches may not be able to stomach anything with more than four legs.

Serioiusly, had we started this process way the fuck back when we knew about global warming, we wouldn't have to be talking about more drastic actions today.
It's hilarious that Conservatives want to always talk about "entitlements" and personal responsibility, and yet they feel entitled to fuck up the planet, they feel entitled to waste and consume to their hearts content, consequences be damned.
The idea that cutting down on the unsustainable gluttony is somehow some commie repression is where we're at with these children.
If we only did shit that we loved then nothing would ever get done in the world.

 

[tonni]

Wrong.

https://iowaclimate.org/2019/05/02/...-to-be-able-to-see-carbon-dioxide-in-the-air/



And this is from a site that would support her.

M e t a p h o r

 

[Slick_36]

I'm confused, I thought people who come up with the accusation was supposed to have the burden of proof, not the other way around.

When did that change?

Most scientists support global warming, they should keep on doing that instead of changing it into a media carnival.

There's plenty of proof in favor of. I don't think the point of that speech was to provide numbers, but to encourage people to look in to the numbers.

 

[IDL]

There's zero logic behind it. It's just braindead partisanship and selfishness. There shouldn't be a single thing political about the environment. The environment is the environment. Science is science.
It's indisputable that human action has had negative effects on the planet.
If you agree with that, then how can you possibly argue against fixing the damage we are doing? You're going to put your wanting to use a straw over the planet, over clean water, over the health of future generations? You can't do any alterations in your diet and the way that you consume for LIFE on Earth?

I'm really sick of politicians speaking to people like they are children. "The American people aren't ready for..../The environment isn't a priority for Americans, they care about jobs..." The environment doesn't care about the feelings of a bunch of uneducated losers. We aren't doing people any favors by pandering to the dumbest among us.
Thunberg was 100% right in her speech when she talked about the fairy tale of unlimited economic growth. It is fucking impossible to sustain the level of mass consumption that we do. IMPOSSIBLE. What happens when China or India reaches the same level of economic power and greed as the USA? What happens when 4 billion fat, entitled Chinese put their want for a daily steak over the health of the planet? How does the planet sustain that?
Which is why using how well the stock market and unemployment rates are a very poor way to measure how good a country is truly doing. Jobs and money don't matter when you don't have clean air and water.

Environmentalism and climate change especially has been heavily politicized and it is thoroughly entangled with government and global interests. More so than ever. And the devil is always in the details with this stuff. Some political move done under some 'green umbrella' doesn't mean it's positive or effective.

Cleanup up rivers and lakes, cleaning up trash, maintaining salmon runs, etc is all environmentalism but it takes a back seat to the new climate change movement which looks often like a religion. Politics tends to corrupt things and it's hard to take it all or nothing.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Your last sentence is a given to most countries....you want a middle ground stop the hysteria over every little idea you come up with in all factions of life. Conservatives aren’t wanting to eat like pigs and fill the ocean with plastic.

If there's any time for "hysteria" it's the potential disaster we have coming our way if we don't change how we're treating this planet. You guys act like there's not a time limit on this, or we're talking about some issue like abortion or immigration. There isn't a do-over, or kicking this can down the road.
And when you have "news people" and politicians not even believing the existence of the problem, what else is the proper reaction to such nonsense?
Thunberg has been saying the same shit that Scientists and people like Al Gore have been saying for years.

"Conservatives aren't wanting to eat like pigs and fill the ocean with plastic", and yet aren't doing a goddamn thing to stop it.
Does rolling back regulations help the enviornment? Fracking? Pulling out of the Paris Accords? Shutting down any conversation on climate change in the Senate? (Courtesy of Moscow Mitch), laughing at the Green New Deal? Which party is responsible for this?
And if you disagree with the Paris Accord and The Green New Deal, fine. Then what is the conservative counter plan? Conservatives bitch about plans the Democrats make, and then offer NOTHING in return.
Bitch about Healthcare, and then offer no counter plan. Bitch about immigration, and offer no plan but building a wall. The Republicans are just the party of obstruction and deflection.

 

[TripleAz]

No but they have no problem lifting regulation after regulation if it's in the interest of corporate profits.

Let's just put a few thousands of people on unemployment.

 

[trac209]

If there's any time for "hysteria" it's the potential disaster we have coming our way if we don't change how we're treating this planet. You guys act like there's not a time limit on this, or we're talking about some issue like abortion or immigration. There isn't a do-over, or kicking this can down the road.
And when you have "news people" and politicians not even believing the existence of the problem, what else is the proper reaction to such nonsense?
Thunberg has been saying the same shit that Scientists and people like Al Gore have been saying for years.

"Conservatives aren't wanting to eat like pigs and fill the ocean with plastic", and yet aren't doing a goddamn thing to stop it.
Does rolling back regulations help the enviornment? Fracking? Pulling out of the Paris Accords? Shutting down any conversation on climate change in the Senate? (Courtesy of Moscow Mitch), laughing at the Green New Deal? Which party is responsible for this?
And if you disagree with the Paris Accord and The Green New Deal, fine. Then what is the conservative counter plan? Conservatives bitch about plans the Democrats make, and then offer NOTHING in return.
Bitch about Healthcare, and then offer no counter plan. Bitch about immigration, and offer no plan but building a wall. The Republicans are just the party of obstruction and deflection.

You know what I’m out, if the planet only has ten more years I’m not wasting time on you. Enjoy your last ten years sir, and when ten turns to twenty and twenty turns to thirty hopefully you’ve found a new cause to cry over.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Environmentalism and climate change especially has been heavily politicized and it is thoroughly entangled with government and global interests. More so than ever. And the devil is always in the details with this stuff. Some political move done under some 'green umbrella' doesn't mean it's positive or effective.

Cleanup up rivers and lakes, cleaning up trash, maintaining salmon runs, etc is all environmentalism but it takes a back seat to the new climate change movement which looks often like a religion. Politics tends to corrupt things and it's hard to take it all or nothing.

I keep hearing this nonsense point about environmentalism being some sort of "religion", as if people are talking about spirit animals and Gaia. We're talking about not destroying the planet here. That's it.

It's only political because environmentalism often goes against the financial interests of corporations, and the politicians that that those corporations fund. That's it. When you have to factor in clean air, water, safety, etc, into your business, it hits corporation's pockets, and they don't like that. That's the only "politics" we have here--money. Money is the corrupter.
We can debate the details of the plasn, but we're not even having any sort of real conversation on this issue in the government at all.

 

[TripleAz]

If there's any time for "hysteria" it's the potential disaster we have coming our way if we don't change how we're treating this planet. You guys act like there's not a time limit on this, or we're talking about some issue like abortion or immigration. There isn't a do-over, or kicking this can down the road.
And when you have "news people" and politicians not even believing the existence of the problem, what else is the proper reaction to such nonsense?
Thunberg has been saying the same shit that Scientists and people like Al Gore have been saying for years.

"Conservatives aren't wanting to eat like pigs and fill the ocean with plastic", and yet aren't doing a goddamn thing to stop it.
Does rolling back regulations help the enviornment? Fracking? Pulling out of the Paris Accords? Shutting down any conversation on climate change in the Senate? (Courtesy of Moscow Mitch), laughing at the Green New Deal? Which party is responsible for this?
And if you disagree with the Paris Accord and The Green New Deal, fine. Then what is the conservative counter plan? Conservatives bitch about plans the Democrats make, and then offer NOTHING in return.
Bitch about Healthcare, and then offer no counter plan. Bitch about immigration, and offer no plan but building a wall. The Republicans are just the party of obstruction and deflection.

Lol pre-Obamacare our health-care was pretty damn good. Building a wall and fixing Daca is not enough for You?

 

[Lint]

There's plenty of proof in favor of. I don't think the point of that speech was to provide numbers, but to encourage people to look in to the numbers.

Then go ahead and show us this plenty of proof because so far your best argument was that most scientists, who btw are the people who earn their wages from climate change studies, think that climate change is real.

The point of the speech was to make a big spectacle to stem hatred towards republicans taking environment --which is a noble cause-- as hostage. Just check it: Every socialist defends Greta no matter what, why so? Do you think that all communists/socialists/democrats are keen on environmental issues? Are they all vegetarian to begin with?

Also we're not even sure if climate change is due to human behavior or not, I personally do think so, but I understand people who don't buy it mostly because if you follow the money you'll see that environmentalists are all about politics, just check it: Brazilian ambassador house in paris was invaded today by the green peace, happened 6 hours ago.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

You know what I’m out, if the planet only has ten more years I’m not wasting time on you. Enjoy your last ten years sir, and when ten turns to twenty and twenty turns to thirty hopefully you’ve found a new cause to cry over.

lol If defending your points is too hard a task, go on back to burying your head in the sand
IDGAF

 

[Lint]

It's only political because environmentalism often goes against the financial interests of corporations, and the politicians that that those corporations fund. That's it. When you have to factor in clean air, water, safety, etc, into your business, it hits corporation's pockets, and they don't like that. That's the only "politics" we have here--money. Money is the corrupter.
We can debate the details of the plasn, but we're not even having any sort of real conversation on this issue in the government at all.

If you can only see up to that shallow point.. kinda explains why voted democrat.

Neither sides give a fuck about environment, all they care about is money.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Lol pre-Obamacare our health-care was pretty damn good. Building a wall and fixing Daca is not enough for You?

Healthcare was pretty damn good for who?
Building a wall doesn't address the immigration problems, and DACA never got done.
And what does this have to do wtih Thunberg or climate change?

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

The lack of eyes on her mug on her mug is rather disturbing.

I added some, but just can't seem to get them to look right:
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Now it's not Malala anymore though, it's an AOC mug.

 

[trac209]

If you can only see up to that shallow point.. kinda explains why voted democrat.

Neither sides give a fuck about environment, all they care about is money.

No no only conservatives care about money......

 

[TripleAz]

Healthcare was pretty damn good for who?
Building a wall doesn't address the immigration problems, and DACA never got done.
And what does this have to do wtih Thunberg or climate change?

Slowing down trafficking of children doesnt matter to you? What has posting up a 12 year for global warming gotten done?

 

[Slick_36]

Then go ahead and show us this plenty of proof because so far your best argument was that most scientists, who btw are the people who earn their wages from climate change studies, think that climate change is real.

The point of the speech was to make a big spectacle to stem hatred towards republicans taking environment --which is a noble cause-- as hostage. Just check it: Every socialist defends Greta no matter what, why so? Do you think that all communists/socialists/democrats are keen on environmental issues? Are they all vegetarian to begin with?

Also we're not even sure if climate change is due to human behavior or not, I personally do think so, but I understand people who don't buy it mostly because if you follow the money you'll see that environmentalists are all about politics, just check it: Brazilian ambassador house in paris was invaded today by the green peace, happened 6 hours ago.

https://www.edf.org/climate/9-ways-we-know-humans-triggered-climate-change

Environmental scientists aren't exactly rolling in the dough. Pretty ridiculous claim to say that all of them are pushing it to make money. Who does this make money for and how exactly? It's a nonsensical conspiracy theory.