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I'll wait until she visits them.Can you post the link where she lets some countries off the hook?
I'll wait until she visits them.Can you post the link where she lets some countries off the hook?
Let’s not pretend China has the market on the moral compass issues both environmental and animal welfare are concerned.
Old people are yesterdays young people.Considering that old people has been terrible for the planet... I say let the younger people speak.
Yeah. And I'm confident than each generation is a little less terrible than the last one.Old people are yesterdays young people.
I think the opposite.Yeah. And I'm confident than each generation is a little less terrible than the last one.
Respectfully disagree. At least in my country old people is cancerous.I think the opposite.
Cant disagree as thats not my world.Respectfully disagree. At least in my country old people is cancerous.
I don't have time for this game. All that underlined stuff is just plain dumb, but I'm not going back and forth with you over the next 10 posts to refute it. In short, if the state didn't intervene we'd all still be smoking cigarettes, the air would be gray, the water would be brown and there'd be no ozone layer. You've also still dodged the point and I don't particularly care to lead you by the nose through your disingenuous tactics. And you can tell all the other so-called right-wing intelligentsia around here the same thing. Go back to your assertion about the left wing and start again if you want to have a real discussion. Then I challenge you to show me all this stuff the right wing would be doing about all these other environmental problems we would be solving if not for so-called climate change hysteria. In you manage any of that you can move onto trying to make the case that going green is anything but good for the economy.Can you name someone who leans right politically getting hysterical about climate change and telling us the world is going to end in a decade? There are plenty of people leaning right politically (Roger Scruton for example) who care about the environment, but they are not going full-retard. In fact, the discussion regarding care for the environment is far more sophisticated and mature on the Right (with exception of course) than the mindless and distracting hysteria, outrage and virtue-signalling coming from the Left. It seems like the Left just wants to scream for more government intervention instead of living responsibly and making the sacrifices necessary to truly care for the planet.
Here is conservative Roger Scruton thoughts on the environment. There are many people on the Right who think similarly to him (I recommend reading the entire thing):
Conservatism and the Environment
...by concentrating on climate change the activists have managed to distract attention from the many other environmental problems that could be, and often have been, solved by people acting in the conservative spirit. Environmental problems arise when homeostatic systems break down – in other words, when the feedback loop that establishes equilibrium is, for whatever reason, destroyed. The homeostatic system that has been most studied is the free market, which returns to equilibrium in changing conditions, provided the participants bear the costs of their actions. Left-wing thinkers refuse to accept this, and constantly invent bogeymen – 'neo-liberalism', 'corporate greed', 'market failure' – in order to justify the intervention of the state, and therefore control by socialists. But intervention by the state is the major cause of disequilibrium, and the environmental consequences can be seen all across the former communist world – in the Soviet case in the form of total devastation. The market ceases to deliver solutions to environmental problems when participants can externalise their costs – in other words, when they can escape the internal rules of the system. It is this that gives rise to 'the tragedy of the commons'.
The solution is not automatically to call on the state to intervene but first to look for the social mechanisms that cause people to bear the costs of what they do...If we look at the history of the environmental movement in Britain we see those conservative principles working successfully, not through the state, but through the civil initiatives that challenge the state...
The amount of individuals in this thread who are triggered by a teenage girl is downright laughable.
lol this thread is like arguing with a brick wall. When you refute and disprove the lies they're posting they shut up for a minute. And then 2 pages later just go right back to repeating it. It really is futile.I don't have time for this game. All that underlined stuff is just plain dumb, but I'm not going back and forth with you over the next 10 posts to refute it. In short, if the state didn't intervene we'd all still be smoking cigarettes, the air would be gray, the water would be brown and there'd be no ozone layer. You've also still dodged the point and I don't particularly care to lead you by the nose through your disingenuous tactics. And you can tell all the other so-called right-wing intelligentsia around here the same thing. Go back to your assertion about the left wing and start again if you want to have a real discussion. Then I challenge you to show me all this stuff the right wing would be doing about all these other environmental problems we would be solving if not for so-called climate change hysteria. In you manage any of that you can move onto trying to make the case that going green is anything but good for the economy.
But I'm going to call it right now. If I engage you, you'll dodge until you have no more room and then you'll switch to
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So, I suggest reform or shut up, there's a good boy.
For someone who pretends to be a devout Christian, you make a lot of effort to avoid being honest.
lol this thread is like arguing with a brick wall. When you refute and disprove the lies they're posting they shut up for a minute. And then 2 pages later just go right back to repeating it. It really is futile.
Also, Devout Pessimist doesnt actually claim to be a Christian. He just really hates leftists and atheists so he fetishizes pious iconography.
If by triggered you mean thinking it's hilarious that they've propped up this girl like she's some genius weather scientist who really knows WTF she's talking about and is not just being groomed while repeating a script she's been coached to regurgitate..
Yes, I think it's fucking hilarious....
and sad
Almost as bad as those fawning all over this bs..The amount of individuals in this thread who are triggered by a teenage girl is downright laughable.
Yeah. And I'm confident than each generation is a little less terrible than the last one.
I also think the different climates in technology and social practices, on top of there just being more people, attribute to that stuff.Yea tide pods compared to say gold fish.