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Kylewood95 said:
lol I've seen almost all of Fedors fights, yes he is one of the best but is most certainly not the best
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Oh I see. Like FlyThai, who famously "watched Pride on YouTube" and got all caught up on the history of the sport. Why am I talking to a chicken nugget, anyway?
 
Po said:
I loved Fedor's style and humbleness but you people need to watch the Arona fight.
Jon Jones is probably the goat.
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Being his 4th MMA fight and not even during what people consider his reign as the #1 HW, I don't consider it to be very relevant.

To say Jones is GOAT so soon is ridiculous, especially before a Gus rematch.
 
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It's the Necromonger way...
 
Went with Fedor, obviously not changing my mind now.
 
Brick Plenary said:
Oh I see. Like FlyThai, who famously "watched Pride on YouTube" and got all caught up on the history of the sport. Why am I talking to a chicken nugget, anyway?
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So what you're saying is because I didn't get to see most of Fedors fights live, that means I don't know anything about him?
 
Kylewood95 said:
So what you're saying is because I didn't get to see most of Fedors fights live, that means I don't know anything about him?
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No, but if you say you lose faith in sherdog becouse he is considred to be the goat that means you know nothing about his career. You can have a different opinion, but if you say stupid shit like that you can expect people to laugh at you.
 
Hanri said:
No, but if you say you lose faith in sherdog becouse he is considred to be the goat that means you know nothing about his career. You can have a different opinion, but if you say stupid shit like that you can expect people to laugh at you.
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Okay I'll admit it was a bit harsh to say that, I understand that people think Fedor is GOAT and thats fine but I just really don't think he is.
 
1. GSP
2. A. Silva
3. Fedor

This is the correct order if you take opinion out of the equation and just stick to facts.
 
Magnum1978 said:
You say it as if 'Pride' somehow brainwashed me? I was watching the UFC long before I watched Pride. I don't think it had anything to do with it, it could have been a fighter from any organisation. I'm a fan of fighters.

And he wasn't perfect, certainly not, he had quite a few flaws, but AT THE TIME, he really had the aura of being the most undefeatable, but the WAY he fought (like I said, fighting different guys at their strengths and still beating them, post Nog and Cro Cop especially)

I think the standup was closer with Cro Cop than many admit, (and yep he got rocked a little, not like Fujita, but still) but he hung in there and certainly gave as good as he got in the standup and easily won the portion of the fight that was standing.

Also not saying that guys like Cain (now) would be beaten by Fedor either. Cain I think is better than any fighter Fedor has a win against, BUT I still think Fedor in his prime, that would be an amazing hypothetical fight. And guys like Cain and JDS wouldn't be the fighters they are now without a guy like Fedor setting the benchmark of the modern heavyweight to emulate. They likely started out training watching and learning from him.

HW GOAT? outright GOAT? its all subjective and can only ever be opinion but for me at least, Fedor is the best I've seen, and I've been watching this game avidly for the past 15+ years.

Dismissing my opinion as if I was just 'brainwashed by Pride' is pretty simplistic and to be honest, insults my intelligence.

With your own opinion, I could equally try push the 'brand allegiance' angle and say stuff like 'Zuffa hype has really done a number on you', but I'm mature enough to not need to resort to that level of rubbish. I reckon I at least deserve the benefit of the doubt, as I as have afforded you.
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UFC geeks dont understand that Fedor didnt have a marketing machine behind him. MMA wasnt that mainstream back then and Pride FC certainly didnt push him even 1/10th as hard as the UFC champions are being pushed today.

You didnt have commercials all over TV with his fights being promoted. You didnt have Joe Rogan sitting in a dark room and telling idiots what kind of a "savage" and "Badass" this guy was.

Fedors fame came from his high octane fights in Japan that fans had to make an effort to see. His humble nature and vicious fighting style of always engaging his opponent from every position. No one has seen that kind of speed and transition from clinching to brawling to judo throwing to submitting. It was the systematic and the ORIGINAL NEW BREED HW.

People loved him because of this and truly understood that they were witnessing something special.

Its easy for UFC geeks to dismiss his greatness because they were still in elementary or middle school getting punked for their lunch money when Fedor was undoubtedly the baddest motherfucker walking planet earth.

The GOAT, the greatest Iv ever seen, the King of MMA Fedor Vladimiroch Emelianenko.
 
A2DaK3 said:
1. GSP
2. A. Silva
3. Fedor

This is the correct order if you take opinion out of the equation and just stick to facts.
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Translation: My opinion is right and your opinions are wrong.
 
I go back and forth between Silva and Fedor, but honestly I don't get the obsession with choosing the "GOAT" in a sport that is 20 years old. If the sport lasts, chances are in 10-15 years from now some fighters will just be able just wipe the floor with the past champions.
 
Anderson -> fedor -> GSP

Anderson and fedor are really close to equal on my list though.
 
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