Elections GOP 2016 Primary Thread V3: More God and Guns Edition

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GOP adds two 'forums' to Aug. 6 debate amid pressure over criteria
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The inaugural Republican primary debate on Aug. 6 is now slated to be joined by two separate "forums" sponsored by the New Hampshire Union Leader and Fox News, respectively, those organizations announced Wednesday night.

The sudden addition of these forums, where candidates speak directly to an audience one at a time, reflects the growing pressure on Fox News to expand its debate coverage beyond the party's current criteria, which will limit the debate to the top 10 candidates according to national polls. Republicans in early states like Iowa and New Hampshire fear that such criteria will take the spotlight off their state and exclude candidates who may be popular among local voters despite low national recogntition.

Joseph McQuaid, the publisher of the New Hampshire Union Leader, announced Wednesday that his paper would host its own Republican primary forum on C-SPAN on Aug. 6, in order to combat what its publisher described as Fox's "threat to the first-in-the-nation primary." Fox's decision to "'winnow' the field of candidates" ahead of the New Hampshire primary "isn't just bad for New Hampshire," McQuaid said, "it's bad for the presidential selection process by limiting the field to only the best-known few with the biggest bankrolls."
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Looks like Fox is pretty much doing CNN's format now after pressure over excluding lower tier candidates from a spotlight.

Union Leader to hold GOP forum night of Fox debate
The New Hampshire Union Leader announced on Wednesday they will host their own Republican primary forum on the same night as the Fox News debate on Aug. 6.

The newspaper's publisher, Joseph McQuaid, said they had been considering such a move for some time. The forum will be broadcast on C-SPAN.

"What Fox is attempting to do, and is actually bragging about doing, is a real threat to the first-in-the-nation primary," McQuaid said in a post on the Union Leader's website. "Fox boasts that it will 'winnow' the field of candidates before New Hampshire gets to do so. That isn't just bad for New Hampshire, it's bad for the presidential selection process by limiting the field to only the best-known few with the biggest bankrolls."
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CNN announces March debate in Florida
CNN announced on Wednesday that they will host a third Republican primary debate on March 10 in Florida.

The debate, which will take place just days before primary contests in Florida, Illinois, Missouri and Ohio, was one of three later debates that were "pending" when the Republican National Committee announced the official debate schedule earlier this year.

In their announcement, CNN said that they announced the debate because it is unlikely the GOP will have chosen a nominee by that date "given the size and competitiveness" of the primary field. The March debate will be the third primary debate CNN will hold, with the first one is in September in California and the second in December in Nevada.
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Living It Up With the Rubios
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The candidate treated most unfairly by The New York Times is in a coveted slot in the Republican presidential field, owned, at least for the time being, by Marco Rubio.
The self-styled newspaper of record ran two extensively reported stories about Rubio and his wife that were so laughably tendentious and unfair that they earned mockery and eye-rolling across the political spectrum.
According to the Times, Marco Rubio is basically a scofflaw who has spent much of his life tottering on the brink of financial ruin, and his wife is his partner in crime.
The personal finances of a presidential candidate are certainly fair game, but the Times fashions as hostile a narrative as possible, and treats life as lived by most Americans as alien and even suspect.
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Lead Salad said:
The New Hampshire Union Leader announced on Wednesday they will host their own Republican primary forum on the same night as the Fox News debate on Aug. 6.

The newspaper's publisher, Joseph McQuaid, said they had been considering such a move for some time. The forum will be broadcast on C-SPAN.

"What Fox is attempting to do, and is actually bragging about doing, is a real threat to the first-in-the-nation primary," McQuaid said in a post on the Union Leader's website. "Fox boasts that it will 'winnow' the field of candidates before New Hampshire gets to do so. That isn't just bad for New Hampshire, it's bad for the presidential selection process by limiting the field to only the best-known few with the biggest bankrolls."
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It's really interesting to see the GOP turn on themselves. Their greatest strength used to be their unity as the white majority while the Democrats tried to juggle the interests of women, gays, blacks, Mexicans, etc. and frequently undermined themselves.

Now it seems the tables have turned.
 
JosephDredd said:
It's really interesting to see the GOP turn on themselves. Their greatest strength used to be their unity as the white majority while the Democrats tried to juggle the interests of women, gays, blacks, Mexicans, etc. and frequently undermined themselves.

Now it seems the tables have turned.
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I think this election looks completely different for each party in a few ways. The Democratic side seems very consolidated and okay with having the "next in line" candidate. The GOP seems to no longer accept this as they usually do. We still will see if Jeb wins but I think the high number in candidates is the party saying he doesn't have a clear legitimacy to the nomination.

I wouldn't say the Democrats have succeeded in unifying all these groups together at this point. Obama certainly did but he was a charismatic political figure and I think a lot of people who voted for him may sit out this election cycle. Also, the Hispanic vote is still on the line (meaning can republican win close to 40% of this vote in future elections) and not as solidified as other groups.

I do think what Hillary loses in voters that went for Obama, she likely will gain back with women voters. I still think the closer the election gets, the more she is going to be in the spotlight and will ultimately crack. I really want to see how she performs in a national stage debate where she is giving opposing viewpoints (rather than similar viewpoints in the Dem primary with Obama) and see how that resonates with the voters.
 
Ohio Polls out from PPP

Ohio Presidential Primary
Kasich 19
Walker 13
Carson 13
Bush 12
Rubio 12
Paul 9
Huckabee 6
Cruz 5
Christie 4
Jindal 0
Perry 0

Kasich wins his own state, shocker. The surprising thing in Carson polling that high imo. I attribute Walker being second to being close by in the rust belt.

Ohio Clinton v. Bush, Clinton +2
Ohio Clinton v. Walker, Clinton +1
Ohio Clinton v. Rubio, Tie
Ohio Clinton v. Carson, Clinton +1
Ohio Clinton v. Paul, Paul +3
Ohio Clinton v. Huckabee, Clinton +3
Ohio Clinton v. Cruz, Clinton +1
Ohio Clinton v. Christie, Clinton +3
Ohio Clinton v. Kasich, Kasich +7

Some notes: Each person in the head to head gets 45 or lower, meaning there is about 10 undecided in the match up. Also, This is the first poll Kasich won in the head to head with Clinton. In January, it was Clinton +1.


I think Ohio is much easier to claim for the GOP in comparison to Ohio. They have the right candidates to win these states but the problem is I'm unsure how they will appeal to both at the same time.
 
Lead Salad said:
I think Ohio is much easier to claim for the GOP in comparison to Ohio. They have the right candidates to win these states but the problem is I'm unsure how they will appeal to both at the same time.
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why do you think this? I think Ohio would be easier than Ohio.
 
Would be fun to see Bush win just to watch the liberals writhe in agony. On the flip side, if Clinton wins, the conservatives will be hurtin'.
 
Adamant said:
Would be fun to see Bush win just to watch the liberals writhe in agony. On the flip side, if Clinton wins, the conservatives will be hurtin'.
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If Bush wins, the entire nation will be writhing in agony.

And conservatives aren't fans of the Bush family.
 
When do we get on with the gop: road to a 3rd world country ruled by fascist billionaires thread?
 
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