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Is this reasonable? or a slippery slope?


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Yeah, because a virus that was lab created to maximize human infection is so easy to snuff out, right? Just do what you are told and it goes away? Thinking you can get 7 billion humans to do exactly what you want is peak insanity. Once it was let out or escaped it was out forever.

There is no cure. No draconian measures can stop it. Submitting to freedom ending bullshit won't stop it. The vaccines won't stop it. Boosters won't stop it.

I just lost my sense of smell. It sucks. But what can you do? How about we all go on living.

Potentially we will never know because nobody can decide on a course of action to prevent it spreading or an actual generalized approach to it.


I agree on just opening up because that ship has sailed to be honest, buut it's kind of sad that we probably could have shut it down in under two months if we had come to some sort of worldwide agreement.

Short term the lockdowns made sense but 12 months later it doesn't. That opportunity is gone. If your hospitals can't cope now they never will.

I am glad you only had a loss of sense of smell. People I know required 6 months worth of steroids just to be able to play with their kids or walk around the block again.
It's weird how differently it goes for each person. I got told by an ER doc I probably already had it after having a bad reaction to the vaccine but no antibody tests in Aus.
 
Lol… these tests have been unreliable garbage the whole time

They just kept ramping up the cycles until they ensured positives whether they had symptoms or not
 
Your argument was that your reference shows that Hep B vaccination has not been proven as safe. Your own reference includes studies that say the complete opposite, but you draw the conclusion that Hep B vaccination might not be safe because they haven't proven it is 100%. The claims I make are in your own reference, within the studies that it uses to make those conclusions. Look for the study that specifically mentions that children vaccinated are at a lower risk of adverse reactions to Hep B vaccination compared to adults vaccinated later in life.

It is dumb. Your argument is that this doesn't show that Hep B vaccination is safe, therefore we shouldn't vaccinate children because they won't engage in these activities that might give them Hep B. When the real issue is we vaccinate children because they are completely vulnerable and at the absolute mercy of adults and can't prevent themselves being exposed through other people or their own actions without the knowledge to keep themselves safe. It's the same reason we put seatbelts and safety features in cars. You might be the safest driver ever, but you can't control other peoples actions.

I don't agree at all with your uuse of the reference or what you say in regards to Hep B vaccination. I don't believe you have even read any of those studies and you picked a reference that you feel supported your view that in no way actually supports that opinion.
Until they can prove that the vaccine cannot cause any type of "Butterfly effect" to our timeline/reality I won't be taking it.
 
No, the majority of the analyzed research noted: "The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between hepatitis B vaccine and [insert adverse event]."

Seriously, all this is wasted time because you have poor reading comprehension?

I'm done, best of luck to you in your crusade against "conspiratorial antivaxxers."

No crusade at all. Just a difference in views on your supporting references and opinion on Hep B vaccination.
 
Until they can prove that the vaccine cannot cause any type of "Butterfly effect" to our timeline/reality I won't be taking it.

Well they haven't found any conclusive evidence to support it either way so you can just pick which side you prefer and make whatever claims you want. I heard covid vaccination might cause brainwashing. I was anti vax until I got my first vaccine so maybe I got brainwashed.
 
The data shows you have better protection if you get the vaccine on top of natural immunity.

At this point its a case of scientific illiteracy to insist that because the review says "there is no data supporting X" that therefore the review is making the claim X is possible. Its like the scientific version of this
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I got trapped in it early. I was in the echo chamber and saw this stuff everywhere and then I started to dig into the references and found they never actually supported what people were saying. They just didn't disprove it 100%.

Just like the covid vaccines they can't say it's 100% safe because nothing is. Everyone has reactions to different things.A sore arm from having a large needle inserted into your body causing pain is an adverse and under reported vaccine reaction. It proves that argument without any context untill you take 30 seconds to google it.

Prior to an explosion in covid in Aus I wouldn't have bothered getting vaccinated because we had no cases. Now it's pretty widespread and I was able to see a good case study between NSW and Victoria in the difference between vaccination and low amounts of vaccination. Throw in the original wave killing 800+ pre vax to now where it would be a quarter of that in total deaths over the same amount of time.

I don't like the idea of mandating anything, but I do like the approach of shorter quarantines for the vaccinated. I think that's a good way to encourage vaccination for people that travel regularly and will bring new variants in. Delta made it's way in through hotel quarantine and absolutely exploded. Australia was at effectively zero prior to that and it spread because people were unable to wear masks, quarantine when sick and kept working interstate with covid. It's funny how other peoples individual freedoms come at the cost of other people sometimes. All our states with no covid here have achieved it by locking other states out. Some have never locked down past the initial 2 weeks and outside of tourism barely know covid exists.
 
Difficult to argue against. Pretty well reasoned stance.

I think I have a pretty balanced view on it with my main point of contention being I support mandatory vaccination for Emergency workers, Military and Medical professionals (Politicians also because screw them). I understand the issue with it as it takes away peoples jobs and ability to choose, but the strategy in Aus is 14 day quarantine post positive patient exposure. Plans with vaccination is to bring that down to 5-7 days or potentially just allow certain asymptomatic to work through it in roles with covid exposure.
It's just to much a burden on resourcing to continue quarantining entire emergency departments, Police or Military units due to covid exposure.

I am open to medical reasons not to get vaccinated, but I don't agree with "I don't trust the vaccine" as a legit reason. We already require certain vaccinations in these areas or provide them in the case of the military. That's the case in Australia at least.
 
The data shows you have better protection if you get the vaccine on top of natural immunity.

At this point its a case of scientific illiteracy to insist that because the review says "there is no data supporting X" that therefore the review is making the claim X is possible. Its like the scientific version of this
dumb-and-dumber-lloyd.gif



The data also show that natural antibodies are 6 to 13 times better against Delta than the stabs. Why risk side effects if you are rolling with natural immunity?

I trust my immune system more than criminal Pfizer. I also worry about locking in with specific vaccines. ADE could turn vaccines into trojan horses.
 
Well they haven't found any conclusive evidence to support it either way so you can just pick which side you prefer and make whatever claims you want. I heard covid vaccination might cause brainwashing. I was anti vax until I got my first vaccine so maybe I got brainwashed.
They lure you in with things like "ending the pandemic"...that's how they get you.
 
They lure you in with things like "ending the pandemic"...that's how they get you.

Screw that. It's every person/family unit for themselves now. I am banking on the vaccine preventing me from having a symptomatic covid infection that results in sickness during the upcoming zombie apocalypse.

Getting my vaccinations in now before the end of the world. Those unvaxed people with their moderate cold symptoms will be struggling to breath whilst I run away with my long term heart issues. I might not make it to old age, but I won't go down via a mild asthma attack whilst running from a zombie.

I have passed on my genetic materiel. My job is done. All these people able to watch hours and hours of youtube videos post lockdowns don't stand a chance. How will they post their views and support their arguments without twitter? Scared of an experimental vaccine? I am ready to be operated on from a vet without anaesthesia.
 
You are getting trapped in an echo chamber which supports your views. Isn't it funny how everything you see just seems to confirm your view of what you are saying or directly contradict it and that the middle ground has seemingly disappeared in society these days.

I don't agree with the censorship, but people are literally turning up to doctors and trying to write their own treatment plans based off their own research. There was a time when people doing that were considered a little bit eccentric, but now people think it's a government conspiracy if their doctor won't treat them how they personally want.

I have said it multiple times I don't care if someone is unvaccinated. Not my problem, but if they say it's deadly kills more than covid or any of those claims, I will call the bullshit out. The fact is the vaccine has been administered to millions of people in nearly every country or population worldwide. It's a pretty good test pool to see the efficacy of the vaccine. It's a bit more than a couple thousand in a trial like is usually done.

The funny thing in all this, is if we locked down half worlds population for one month and then the other halfs popuulation for another month, we could have cured covid in two months arguably. The reason they push the vaccine so much is that people can't even be trusted to do some basic things to limit spread because it's an inconvenience for them. Personally I agree that we just let it run it's course, but I can see why you would push vaccination to prevent hospitals filling up, mass covid death and spread again because it's worked with every other major vaccinatable virus prior.

My views are supported by evidence.

It's a fact that alternative treatments like Ivermectin were both slandered and suppressed in favor of pushing the EXPERIMENTAL vax. There was information coming out about it since as far back as Dec:



Shit, Rogan used it along with monoclonal antibodies and a steroid, and was healed in just 3 short days. But, nope, the government is saying get the EXPERIMENTAL vax or we'll make life tough on you by putting you out of work.

How do you not see any hints of a conspiracy there?

It has nothing to do with confirmation bias, it's right there, out in the open, in front of everyone's eyes to see. Open yours.

Next, you have no idea what is coming long term as a result of taking these vaxxes. None. Nobody does. You're confident now because millions across the globe have gotten it and aren't dead yet? Foolish, and shows you have no understanding of why long term clinical trials exist.

You also talk about efficacy, while ignoring the fact that it's a "leaky" vax, thus it drives mutations. It is not effective at stopping the spread nor eliminating variants.

Not even going to get into masks, another clear act of medial theater associated with this pandemic.

The vilification of the unvaccinated is undeniable. It's also undeniably unjust for anyone within the non-risk group. Yet, it continues, and is picking up steam.

You want hospitals to stop filling up? Administer the non-patented effective drugs (that cost close to nothing) to the people at risk, don't coerce them into being lab rats against their will.

It's truly amazing that people can be made aware of all of these questionable aspects of the pandemic (of which I didn't even get into them all - like how the damn thing was developed) and not even think potential conspiracy.
 
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Just got done with the doctor. Did a virtual Doctor visit. I need antibiotics for sinusitis. My sinusitis got turbo charged because I got C19.

She tells me to make sure to get vaxxed when I am feeling better and out of isolation.

Knowing I am going to have naturally produced antibodies. It seems scripted.
comical...ask her what her take is from Big Pharma.
 
comical...ask her what her take is from Big Pharma.
It's funny that he even talked to a doctor in the first place because we all knew she would only try to sell him on the vaccine and probably try to get him hooked on painkillers so she could line the pockets of Big Pharma. He could have saved time and money by consulting bitchute instead.
 
Potentially we will never know because nobody can decide on a course of action to prevent it spreading or an actual generalized approach to it.


I agree on just opening up because that ship has sailed to be honest, buut it's kind of sad that we probably could have shut it down in under two months if we had come to some sort of worldwide agreement.

Short term the lockdowns made sense but 12 months later it doesn't. That opportunity is gone. If your hospitals can't cope now they never will.

I am glad you only had a loss of sense of smell. People I know required 6 months worth of steroids just to be able to play with their kids or walk around the block again.
It's weird how differently it goes for each person. I got told by an ER doc I probably already had it after having a bad reaction to the vaccine but no antibody tests in Aus.


When I said "I just lost my sense of smell" I didn't mean all that happened was a loss of smell. I meant 5 minutes earlier I was putting some skirt steak in a amazing carne asada marinade and my wife was like, oh ..... That smells fucking good. And I tried to smell, and nothing happened. I grabbed a bottle of garlic powder. Nothing.

I had just lost my sense of smell.

Covid isn't great. The chills and aches and loss of sleep. Yuck. And I got over a 103 degrees, and I have basically never been over 100.

Anyway. I hope everyone good health. Love you sherfellas
 
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