Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread

[PhitePhan]

That review has references that cover all those studies. Those references form part of the review, that's how these reviews work. It's a content page for all those studies so you don't have to read them. Your own link includes the reference to the children. Read your references instead of just the first page. It doesn't show at all what you say, just 5 of those studies alone dispute what you are trying to say, let alone if you read them all in full. I haven't and don't need to just to find that single reference to children in multiple.

That's why I said what I said. You took the contents page and made a conclusion from the wording on it to support youur argument. It's dumb and what everyone keeps doing with these types of studies, reviews etc.

LOL, so first you call it a "study," and after you're corrected you try to lecture me about how reviews are conducted?
And no, it's not a "Contents page," it's more akin to an annotated bibliography synthesizing relevant safety studies, if you insist on quibbling.

Each and every study is cited, and you're welcome to read them in depth if you think you can analyze this information better than the IOM...



Also, "It's dumb" isn't an argument FFS.

Just to keep track:

1. you can't show any reason my newborn needs a hep b vaccine outside of making up new risk factors NOT listed by health authorities (e.g., daycare exposure, accidental needle stick)
2. you don't know what a IOM review is ("contents page" ), yet you want to lecture me about how I'm misusing this reference
3. you make claims that you don't source
4. you call me dumb over and over
5. you can't actually follow up with any detail supporting your claims (e.g., calling me conspiratorial but failing to provide an example)
6. you can't speak at all to the dearth of actual safety research for the hep b vaccine (i.e., you just claim that I'm misinterpreting this information, but not showing where or how)

Did I miss anything?

 

[AWilder]

Just got done with the doctor. Did a virtual Doctor visit. I need antibiotics for sinusitis. My sinusitis got turbo charged because I got C19.

She tells me to make sure to get vaxxed when I am feeling better and out of isolation.

Knowing I am going to have naturally produced antibodies. It seems scripted.

She's a crisis actor 100%, call her school to confirm she even has a degree.

 

[The_Renaissance]

I went to a group setting where people were exposed to the virus. Everyone that got tested had accurate results.

the positive people were positive and the negative people were negative.


Seems a certain group are the ones having the problems.

What, the group forcibly quarantined for being positive? So what's the issue then?

I'm double jabbed lad. 3 overseas holidays since last summer 2020. I'm no anti vaxxer it's helped me continue to have a brilliant life.

That sentence you've just written makes absolutely no sense to me lad. Not a jot.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

What, the group forcibly quarantined for being positive? So what's the issue then?

I'm double jabbed lad. 3 overseas holidays since last summer 2020. I'm no anti vaxxer it's helped me continue to have a brilliant life.

That sentence you've just written makes absolutely no sense to me lad. Not a jot.

what dont you understand. The test results are accurate.

 

[The_Renaissance]

what dont you understand. The test results are accurate.

Hahaha. Sorry mate we'll never agree on that.

 

[genecop]

It’s almost as if none of these m fuckers know what’s going on..

 

[maximus__]

LOL, so first you call it a "study," and after you're corrected you try to lecture me about how reviews are conducted?
And no, it's not a "Contents page," it's more akin to an annotated bibliography synthesizing relevant safety studies, if you insist on quibbling.

Each and every study is cited, and you're welcome to read them in depth if you think you can analyze this information better than the IOM...



Also, "It's dumb" isn't an argument FFS.

Just to keep track:

1. you can't show any reason my newborn needs a hep b vaccine outside of making up new risk factors NOT listed by health authorities (e.g., daycare exposure, accidental needle stick)
2. you don't know what a IOM review is ("contents page" ), yet you want to lecture me about how I'm misusing this reference
3. you make claims that you don't source
4. you call me dumb over and over
5. you can't actually follow up with any detail supporting your claims (e.g., calling me conspiratorial but failing to provide an example)
6. you can't speak at all the the dearth of actual safety research for the hep b vaccine (i.e., you just claim that I'm misinterpreting this information, but not showing where or how)

Did I miss anything?

Your argument was that your reference shows that Hep B vaccination has not been proven as safe. Your own reference includes studies that say the complete opposite, but you draw the conclusion that Hep B vaccination might not be safe because they haven't proven it is 100%. The claims I make are in your own reference, within the studies that it uses to make those conclusions. Look for the study that specifically mentions that children vaccinated are at a lower risk of adverse reactions to Hep B vaccination compared to adults vaccinated later in life.

It is dumb. Your argument is that this doesn't show that Hep B vaccination is safe, therefore we shouldn't vaccinate children because they won't engage in these activities that might give them Hep B. When the real issue is we vaccinate children because they are completely vulnerable and at the absolute mercy of adults and can't prevent themselves being exposed through other people or their own actions without the knowledge to keep themselves safe. It's the same reason we put seatbelts and safety features in cars. You might be the safest driver ever, but you can't control other peoples actions.

I don't agree at all with your uuse of the reference or what you say in regards to Hep B vaccination. I don't believe you have even read any of those studies and you picked a reference that you feel supported your view that in no way actually supports that opinion.

 

[genecop]

Make him stay home until he feels better like always. Maybe don’t have him close to anybody over 80 for 10 days.

Or over 10 for 80 days..

 

[TUFNewb]

It's like how DNA at the crime scene can prove the suspect is the culprit, but the lack of it does not exonerate them entirely.

 

[Nimrod]

My son has a cold so we took him to the doctor. They test him for strep & C19, both negative. We get his results today & the patient info states that negative tests are not as reliable as positive tests. He should still quarantine for 10 days. WTH is this BS? How many negative tests do we need? My mom's doctor tried the same BS. Sorry, not how it works.



EDIT: I have a pic of the letter but can't upload to War Room?

Im sure that if the MSM and government said that chopping off your penis would save you from covid .. they'd be a LOT of penisless men wandering about ..

 

[PhitePhan]

Your argument was that your reference shows that Hep B vaccination has not been proven as safe. Your own reference includes studies that say the complete opposite...

Please post the studies that say the Hep B vaccines have been proven safe... you keep referencing specific studies in the chapter I posted, but there are dozens and dozens of studies included, why not just link the ones you are referring to?

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

Just put him in a bubble with a gas mask. Problem solved.

 

[Mr. Shickadance]

It doesn't.

It does

 

[genecop]

Im sure that if the MSM and government said that chopping off your penis would save you from covid .. they'd be a LOT of penisless men wandering about ..

I’m certain @StoneColdSteveAustin already tried that..

 

[maximus__]

Please post the studies that say the Hep B vaccines have been proven safe... you keep referencing articles in the chapter I posted, but there are dozens and dozens of studies included, why not just link the ones you are referring to?

I already said they don't say it's 100% safe. They say there is insufficient evidence to conclude the vaccination causes "insert blank". The only thing it is relatively well proven to do is to assist with vaccinating against Hep B.

I could use the same argument and say show me multiple peer reviewed studies that shows Hep B vaccination has been linked to cause this specific type of serious adverse reaction "insert blank", but I don't because it doesn't prove anything either way. We could both go through and prove our points by picking specific studies that support our views back and forth forever and achieve nothing to be honest. I just disagree with your reference as proof of your opinion. I don't believe it supports it at all and actually shows the opposite. That's why I said it was dumb. I think it's a flawed way to argue against Hep B vaccination. I referenced conspiracy theories and echo chambers because you are calling a long term and effective vaccine unproven because it might cause serious vaccine injuries, but you have no proof of it. I was probably projecting other thread replies onto my response to you. I agree with the argument in terms of covid vaccination, the data is there, but I don't in regards to Hep B vaccination. The absence of data does not prove an opinion, but in this case it can disprove it. The information would have come to light due to the length of Hep B vaccination in developed countries.

 

[lifelessheap]

You are getting trapped in an echo chamber which supports your views. Isn't it funny how everything you see just seems to confirm your view of what you are saying or directly contradict it and that the middle ground has seemingly disappeared in society these days.

I don't agree with the censorship, but people are literally turning up to doctors and trying to write their own treatment plans based off their own research. There was a time when people doing that were considered a little bit eccentric, but now people think it's a government conspiracy if their doctor won't treat them how they personally want.

I have said it multiple times I don't care if someone is unvaccinated. Not my problem, but if they say it's deadly kills more than covid or any of those claims, I will call the bullshit out. The fact is the vaccine has been administered to millions of people in nearly every country or population worldwide. It's a pretty good test pool to see the efficacy of the vaccine. It's a bit more than a couple thousand in a trial like is usually done.

The funny thing in all this, is if we locked down half worlds population for one month and then the other halfs popuulation for another month, we could have cured covid in two months arguably. The reason they push the vaccine so much is that people can't even be trusted to do some basic things to limit spread because it's an inconvenience for them. Personally I agree that we just let it run it's course, but I can see why you would push vaccination to prevent hospitals filling up, mass covid death and spread again because it's worked with every other major vaccinatable virus prior.

Yeah, because a virus that was lab created to maximize human infection is so easy to snuff out, right? Just do what you are told and it goes away? Thinking you can get 7 billion humans to do exactly what you want is peak insanity. Once it was let out or escaped it was out forever.

There is no cure. No draconian measures can stop it. Submitting to freedom ending bullshit won't stop it. The vaccines won't stop it. Boosters won't stop it.

I just lost my sense of smell. It sucks. But what can you do? How about we all go on living.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

Hahaha. Sorry mate we'll never agree on that.

That’s because you believe in CTs

 

[Islam Imamate]

Just got done with the doctor. Did a virtual Doctor visit. I need antibiotics for sinusitis. My sinusitis got turbo charged because I got C19.

She tells me to make sure to get vaxxed when I am feeling better and out of isolation.

Knowing I am going to have naturally produced antibodies. It seems scripted.

The data shows you have better protection if you get the vaccine on top of natural immunity.

Your argument was that your reference shows that Hep B vaccination has not been proven as safe. Your own reference includes studies that say the complete opposite, but you draw the conclusion that Hep B vaccination might not be safe because they haven't proven it is 100%. The claims I make are in your own reference, within the studies that it uses to make those conclusions. Look for the study that specifically mentions that children vaccinated are at a lower risk of adverse reactions to Hep B vaccination compared to adults vaccinated later in life.

It is dumb. Your argument is that this doesn't show that Hep B vaccination is safe, therefore we shouldn't vaccinate children because they won't engage in these activities that might give them Hep B. When the real issue is we vaccinate children because they are completely vulnerable and at the absolute mercy of adults and can't prevent themselves being exposed through other people or their own actions without the knowledge to keep themselves safe. It's the same reason we put seatbelts and safety features in cars. You might be the safest driver ever, but you can't control other peoples actions.

I don't agree at all with your uuse of the reference or what you say in regards to Hep B vaccination. I don't believe you have even read any of those studies and you picked a reference that you feel supported your view that in no way actually supports that opinion.

At this point its a case of scientific illiteracy to insist that because the review says "there is no data supporting X" that therefore the review is making the claim X is possible. Its like the scientific version of this

 

[PhitePhan]

I already said they don't say it's 100% safe. They say there is insufficient evidence to conclude the vaccination causes "insert blank". The only thing it is relatively well proven to do is to assist with vaccinating against Hep B.

No, the majority of the analyzed research noted: "The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between hepatitis B vaccine and [insert adverse event]."

Seriously, all this is wasted time because you have poor reading comprehension?

I'm done, best of luck to you in your crusade against "conspiratorial antivaxxers."

 

[Prefect]

You guys are so weird. They're just recommending you avoid people for a few days. It's not like they're seeing a negative test result and giving you a bunch of Covid specific drugs anyways.

This is when you realize it was never about social distancing, restrictions, masks, or the vaccines.