Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread

[shankmcgank]

They still exit quickly and go shopping and see their friends and cough everywhere. Even the foreign people arent quarantining in my area, they just exit the hotel and go up clifton hill.

You live in Niagara Falls too?

 

[shankmcgank]

Feel so sorry for you TO guys. My mental health was starting to suffer in January back before they opened up MB again.

Absolutely DO NOT feel sorry for them.

They are the assholes that leave locked down Toronto and visit other non-locked down areas and spread their shitty Covid around to everyone.

I see their license plate frames everywhere -

Don Mills Toyota
Toronto Ford
Mississauga Hyundai.

in Niagara Falls, which is 1.5 hours away from Toronto.

Fuck them.

 

[shankmcgank]

St kitts. But i know whats going on in my area, i have friends all over here and they tell me whats cracking. Welland and the falls seem to be the biggest hot spots. Welland is....welland. fuck that place lol

Yea the Toronto Covid spreaders come to the Falls, go to the gigantic outlet mall, where they get 10 billion people a day, and Ford allows that to happen...what could possibly go wrong???

Businesses need to start checking IDs and refusing service to any and all out of towners.

They can get food from McDonald's and stop for gas if they need to, and that's it.

The whole point of a lockdown is for people to lockdown, and by allowing out of towners to visit shopping malls, stores, restaurants etc, especially from a locked down area, makes fucking ZERO sense to anyone with a brain.

Canada should also be shutting down international travel from places like India where they have 200,000 new cases daily.

Of course, TurdWater won't allow that to happen, he needs to import as many Liberal voters as possible before the next election.

 

[SammyPops]

The idea was a poor one.

If he would just let people stay home when they are sick it would help stop the spread.

Hey bro, you are usually pretty balanced, so I'm gonna ask you a question that I can't seem to get my head around.

Whats with your second sentence, why blaming DoFo? The Feds offer 4 weeks of paid sick time, so what else can DoFo do?

Not trolling. I legit don't get this.

I wonder if thee is a not a hidden agenda here, for example Nails on a chalkboard is now including paid universal vacation time along with paid universal sick time.

 

[Wet Blanket]

Hey bro, you are usually pretty balanced, so I'm gonna ask you a question that I can't seem to get my head around.

Whats with your second sentence, why blaming DoFo? The Feds offer 4 weeks of paid sick time, so what else can DoFo do?

Not trolling. I legit don't get this.

I wonder if thee is a not a hidden agenda here, for example Nails on a chalkboard is now including paid universal vacation time along with paid universal sick time.

It's my understanding that the feds have created that sick benefit, but it wouldn't cover the actual pay a person would make during that time and most people would just go to work instead of losing money.

Ontario had just given low wage workers 2 sick days (if I remember right) and Ford got rid of them as soon as he took over.

Look at all the outbreaks at factories and warehouses. Many of these people can't afford to stay home when sick. Perhaps the province can top up the feds plan?

 

[Brampton_Boy]

It's surprising to see how many people lay fault at the government's doorstep (provincial and federal) with respect to the COVID response.

I can say with certainty that we the public are to blame. Outside of that first couple of months in March/April 2020 when nobody knew the magnitude of COVID and the streets were like a ghost town, people flagrantly disregard social distancing and quarantine protocols. Ontario is supposedly under strict stay at home measures, but when I look around, I still see neighbors holding birthday parties for their kids, and traffic on the 401/410 remains as heavy as it's ever been. Heck, there are two kids aerating my lawn as I type this, and I'm reasonably sure that is not considered an essential service (although I genuinely don't know - they are traveling door to door and charging $40).

I can honestly say that everybody I know has broken the quarantine rules at one point or another (often repeatedly). We find all sorts of excuses to justify it, but the hard truth is that people are selfish and don't want to do what's necessary to discourage the spread. Is government to blame? In part - I think the vaccine roll out has been a debacle and guidance regarding what is allowed/not allowed is unclear and constantly changing. However, I still think it's the public's inability to tolerate short term inconvenience for long term gains that has us in this mess.

The countries that have done best (China/Japan/Korea) have a different culture where people are expected to be more obedient and don't readily question the will of political leaders. In the US/Canada, we think everything is an infringement on our individual liberties (i.e. your asking me to wear a mask during a global pandemic? How dare you! The government doesn't tell me what to do).

I don't think anything short of vaccinating majority of the public is going to get us out of this mess. Any behavioral intervention is bound to fail.

 

[SammyPops]

It's my understanding that the feds have created that sick benefit, but it wouldn't cover the actual pay a person would make during that time and most people would just go to work instead of losing money.

Ontario had just given low wage workers 2 sick days (if I remember right) and Ford got rid of them as soon as he took over.

Look at all the outbreaks at factories and warehouses. Many of these people can't afford to stay home when sick. Perhaps the province can top up the feds plan?

Okay, so if thats the eal deal, and thanks for laying it out.

Its fucked that our media and politians seem to frame the discussion very badly for DoFo. Like I've never read/heard a story such as "DoFo needs to implement paid sick leave b/c the feds done fucked up and not pay enough".

On another note- the feds just announced delays in the next 2 AZ shipments to Ontario. LOL the same day Ontario opened up AZ to people 40+

 

[GoldenWolf87]

It's surprising to see how many people lay fault at the government's doorstep (provincial and federal) with respect to the COVID response.

I can say with certainty that we the public are to blame. Outside of that first couple of months in March/April 2020 when nobody knew the magnitude of COVID and the streets were like a ghost town, people flagrantly disregard social distancing and quarantine protocols. Ontario is supposedly under strict stay at home measures, but when I look around, I still see neighbors holding birthday parties for their kids, and traffic on the 401/410 remains as heavy as it's ever been. Heck, there are two kids aerating my lawn as I type this, and I'm reasonably sure that is not considered an essential service (although I genuinely don't know - they are traveling door to door and charging $40).

I can honestly say that everybody I know has broken the quarantine rules at one point or another (often repeatedly). We find all sorts of excuses to justify it, but the hard truth is that people are selfish and don't want to do what's necessary to discourage the spread. Is government to blame? In part - I think the vaccine roll out has been a debacle and guidance regarding what is allowed/not allowed is unclear and constantly changing. However, I still think it's the public's inability to tolerate short term inconvenience for long term gains that has us in this mess.

The countries that have done best (China/Japan/Korea) have a different culture where people are expected to be more obedient and don't readily question the will of political leaders. In the US/Canada, we think everything is an infringement on our individual liberties (i.e. your asking me to wear a mask during a global pandemic? How dare you! The government doesn't tell me what to do).

I don't think anything short of vaccinating majority of the public is going to get us out of this mess. Any behavioral intervention is bound to fail.

I wouldn't go around yet praising China though they still have lied about the covid data. It only took Trump admin to take a notice of that and yet the Biden admin doesn't seem to have a issue with the data coming out of China about Covid.

 

[MacGregor]

 

[Wet Blanket]

Okay, so if thats the eal deal, and thanks for laying it out.

Its fucked that our media and politians seem to frame the discussion very badly for DoFo. Like I've never read/heard a story such as "DoFo needs to implement paid sick leave b/c the feds done fucked up and not pay enough".

On another note- the feds just announced delays in the next 2 AZ shipments to Ontario. LOL the same day Ontario opened up AZ to people 40+

Opening up AZ to those 40+ is an excellent move.

Just get as many people vaccinated as possible.. at this point if we have em, use em.

 

[Wet Blanket]

Okay, so if thats the eal deal, and thanks for laying it out.

Its fucked that our media and politians seem to frame the discussion very badly for DoFo. Like I've never read/heard a story such as "DoFo needs to implement paid sick leave b/c the feds done fucked up and not pay enough".

On another note- the feds just announced delays in the next 2 AZ shipments to Ontario. LOL the same day Ontario opened up AZ to people 40+

Hopefully this whole thing is an eye opener for everyone that we shouldn't be outsourcing everything we need.

We should be able to design and produce vaccines ourselves. (As well as a lot of other products.)

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Opening up AZ to those 40+ is an excellent move.

Just get as many people vaccinated as possible.. at this point if we have em, use em.

Ah yes that AZ among the J&J that has the bloodclot no thanks.

Just get as many people vaccinated as possible

Why because you foolish believe that the lockdowns and restrictions will just vanish and some form of normality will come back right?

 

[Wet Blanket]

Ah yes that AZ among the J&J that has the bloodclot no thanks.


Why because you foolish believe that the lockdowns and restrictions will just vanish right?

I'm already vaccinated (1st shot).

 

[GoldenWolf87]

I'm already vaccinated (1st shot).

Good luck with that shot. You should monitor your symptoms. Amazing how the fear mongering worked on people.

Normality wont return. Even you got your rushed vax.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Source

He told BBC World News: "I think over the next year or two things will loosen up quite a lot. I think we will eventually get back to normal but will that take three years or 10 years, I don't know."

They just love the resections and the covid powers. They arent even sure if normality would return even with the covid vax. But they expect people to take them either way.
10 Years from now is around 2031

 

[Ruke Doufus]

What's not being said is that they want to prioritize certain lives over other lives and the economy.

in this case financial ruin and mental health issues are causing a loss of life and are a result of the lockdown so using a lockdown to "preserve life" ironically costs other lives to do. It's like inverted natural selection.

 

[Andy Capp]

Western societies are crumbling and those in control right now are turning citizen against citizen. Turn in your neighbor, turn in businesses in your community that do not comply

Yeah, you're all about loving your neighbour, as long as they are the right kind of person, right?

 

[4daLuLZ]

Canada should also be shutting down international travel from places like India where they have 200,000 new cases daily.

There is no travel to and from India unless it’s essential.
Even then, it’s first get a pre boarding Covid test result. Then another immediately on landing. Then a 14 day quarantine at a government listed facility, on your own dime.
14 days when Covid generally shows up in 5 days, tops.

That’s pretty fkn airtight, buddy.

 

[rikibobby]

dont get me wrong before this whole thing started, 14,15 years ago, Canada was a great place to settle down. Probably just not in the cities. I see more people moving out of cities now.

Totally agree. I'd say things got very depressing around 2006 in Ontario. When i think of the "good old days" they are prior to then.

 

[PhitePhan]

What's not being said is that they want to prioritize certain lives over other lives and the economy.

in this case financial ruin and mental health issues are causing a loss of life and are a result of the lockdown so using a lockdown to "preserve life" ironically costs other lives to do. It's like inverted natural selection.

Whats worse, these measures have been implemented to favor the lives of those who already very near death, and those whose own actions have left them particularly vulnerable (the obese).