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Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread Vol. 2

"Why is this man comparing data for hospitalization preventions that doesn't include the elderly-- the group that benefitted most?"

Its because they were mandated mate and had the least potential of a covid harm and suffered the most from the mandates.
A year at 18 is far more valuable than a year at 84, on every conceivable metric and thats from someone who has let time run away.
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It's clear you don't comprehend anything that you're reading. The vaccine adverse events figure does include the elderly. Yet it is compared to a figure estimating the prevention of hospitalizations and deaths by vaccines that does not.
"Why is he comparing it to two groups of children when the study he quotes only looked at elevated risk rates of adverse events for adults (of all ages, btw, 18 and older, which includes the elderly, the group most vulnerable)."

(My opinion)if anything the adverse reactions ratio would be worse with the children not better and its the only real figures he had to go on. To use the data on the children isn't to much of a stretch at all, more so wuth so much fraud on every level of the safe and effective narrative and the covid bullshit. There is no way at this stage you are unaware of these hurdles.
LOL, so then go find evidence of that. The estimate for adverse reactions caused by vaccines doesn't evaluate the rate caused in children. Yet it's being compared to figures of hospitalization/death prevention by vaccines that does.
"Why is he comparing data for adverse events to the vaccine that encompass a period all the way from Apr-2020 through Feb-2023 to a rate of hospitalization preventions for only the period of Spring 2023 in the CDC's data? That is a period, btw, when the rate of prevented hospitalizations was lowest-- by far. The CDC's whole chart doesn't even cover a spread of time this great, it only details Summer 2022, December 2022, and Spring 2023, but he should have summed the total hospitalization preventions. For example, just for the the 18-49 group, this rises to 797 preventions."

April to December would be zero except the clinical trial which has to be counted if you want to be as accurate as possible. Besides your links every other in thread link has now been disabled, even our Western Australia government link(no surprise) so its hard for me to comment properly.

I will say that #2 was addressed somewhat by the censorship of relevant data.

"It may be that the CDC disclosure document has more demographic granularity somewhere, though Dr Campbell could not find it."

You are also using a false narrative as real quality data i.e. historical covid deaths when any death within 30 days of a positive test was a covid death. In the nursing homes it was worse, the deaths if they had breathing difficulties was labelled covid.

The ignoring of the malfeasance in the statistical fraud is also poor. The hospital protocols were Incentivising procedures that led directly to deaths, when you're paying bonuses for treatments that kill the bodies aren't stacked up because the narrative is accurate.

An unsatisfactory reply from myself but the censorship is a real hinderance to a debate.


No ones exempt and I like to understand how much skin in the game a person has Mick, how many and when was your last shot?

My links aren't disabled. Again, this is an asinine, nonsensical reply. It's a very basic question. Why are figures for grossly different date ranges being compared? LOL.

Also, no, that isn't how COVID deaths were counted. Jesus, dude, a pinch of skeptical thinking would do you so much good.
 
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It's clear you don't comprehend anything that you're reading. The vaccine adverse events figure does include the elderly. Yet it is compared to a figure estimating the prevention of hospitalizations and deaths by vaccines that does not.

LOL, so then go find evidence of that. The estimate for adverse reactions caused by vaccines doesn't evaluate the rate caused in children. Yet it's being compared to figures of hospitalization/death prevention by vaccines that does.


My links aren't disabled. Again, this is an asinine, nonsensical reply. It's a very basic question. Why are figures for grossly different date ranges being compared? LOL.

Also, no, that isn't how COVID deaths were counted. Jesus, dude, a pinch of skeptical thinking would do you so much good.

No but I'm tired and busy, you're correct and I misread your reply and point.


"LOL, so then go find evidence of that. The estimate for adverse reactions caused by vaccines doesn't evaluate the rate caused in children. Yet it's being compared to figures of hospitalization/death prevention by vaccines that does."

We have actual evidence though and it is Pfizer's original childrens trial and this was disregarded, due to the adverse reactions caused. Just the fraud proven on Maddie de Garay case should have shut down the trial and stopped the childrens rollout. The trial showed that a 1:2000 child patient's may be catastrophicly injured yet the hospitalisation rate for a healthy child from covid is statistically zero.


"My links aren't disabled. Again, this is an asinine, nonsensical reply. It's a very basic question. Why are figures for grossly different date ranges being compared?"

It isn't a non sensical reply when I am now unable to access the government data that the conclusion were produced from. Your two links work but the all the data used in the links analysis are now blocked.
The date ranges for the start of 2020 in the vaccine adverse reactions is included due to the adverse reactions linked in the clinical trials. This is fair.



"Also, no, that isn't how COVID deaths were counted. Jesus, dude, a pinch of skeptical thinking would do you so much good."

Ironic statement on critical thinking, I am correct. What changed was when the mandate from the WHO became common knowledge, until than it was followed to the letter.
After people being shot to death (New Zealand) and the incoming Italian election and the subsequent governments sudden case of honestly and the revised death tolls a "little" more honesty was added to the Italian system deaths(reduction by 96% iirc). Since than other governments have gone on record trying to re write history and usually just before an election (Australia's liar ScoMo and NSW liberal party)

i.e.
NZ- Shot to death and the WHO mandates ALL our country's followed



UK- for ease of search, ALL western countries followed this mandate. All of them
https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/13847/pdf/

"Constant changing of scales and metrics used in data reporting. For example, deaths were recorded as COVID-19 deaths if they occurred within 28 days of a positive test and this has recently been changed to 60 days if COVID-19 appears on the death certificate. This change was done in reaction to a recommendation that the period should be reduced to 21 days. The change was made with no accompanying explanation of why it was increased rather than decreased."



"'death' = death from anything within 28 days of positive test result)"


This is very old and done to deaths news Mick, you have to know this which makes me wonder if you're lying. If so it indicates either "saw a loose thread" or "white knighting". We'll narrow it down by the end don't you worry.


Now don't be a pussy mate, you're now in the game pushing this shit arent you?
Lets see some flesh instead of words. How many and when was your last one? Don't deflect ignore or divert, you are saying safe and effective aren't you?
Stating I'm not critically thinking yet what you wrote directly contrindicts known policy and that you will not divulge your vaxx status is an indicator for deception.
 
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Like all of them they always ignore how many and why they're not close to being up to date. The below links very clearly explains why, they may be liars, manipulative but they're not totally stupid.

https://peterhalligan.substack.com/...8nPl_h8HM8TyLf9PsmGpmi3CP8H4t1ehxuK4o&r=x2a5a

"The new C19 mRNA booster – Moderna price 130 bucks per dose – estimated to PREVENT around 50 hospitalizations per million doses
mRNA injections CAUSE 1,000 to 1,500 SERIOUS events per million doses
"


" “‘Safe and effective’

Estimated hospitalizations prevented per 1,000,000 vaccine doses

12 -17 years 19-95 hospitalizations, 5-19 ICU admissions, and perhaps one death.

5 – 11 years 16 hospitalizations, (based on Spring 2023 data)

18 – 49 years 75 hospitalizations, (based on Spring 2023 data)

Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055...

Pfizer vaccines excess risk of serious adverse events (Higher than placebo baseline)

10.1 per 10,000, 101 per 100,000, 1,010 per 1,000,000

Moderna vaccines excess risk of serious adverse events, (Higher than placebo baseline)

15.1 per 10,000, 151 per 100,000, 1,510 per 1,000,000

In Western Australia https://www.health.wa.gov.au/~/media/...

Total AEFI rate following a COVID-19 vaccine 264.1 per 100,000 doses 2,641 per 1,000,000 doses

https://www.reuters.com/business/heal...

March 22 Moderna chief executive defended the company's plan to quadruple the price of its COVID-19 vaccine, $130 per dose

Pfizer last year suggested $110 to $130 per dose.

From FDA to MHRA: are drug regulators for hire?

https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o...

Money derived from Industry

US Food and Drug Administration, $3,416,000,000 (2022
)

The revolving door - FDA, nine out of 10 of its past commissioners, 2006 to 2019 went on to secure roles linked with pharmaceutical companies.
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@fingercuffs so did your actions follow your virtue signalling a few weeks ago, you jabbed yet?
Thank you for thinking of me, sweetheart. Did you expect me to read all of that? Why did you tag me in?
 
Thank you for thinking of me, sweetheart. Did you expect me to read all of that? Why did you tag me in?

Of course not, I know your limitations well. It was for the people that can read and like honesty, the people that may be influenced by the opposite sex? (You identify or are)

You both have had your latest jab like you said?
 
Of course not, I know your limitations well. It was for the people that can read and like honesty, the people that may be influenced by the opposite sex? (You identify or are)

You both have had your latest jab like you said?
Both? Who are you on about? Are you okay?

So why did you tag me in then, sycophant?
 
Both? Who are you on about? Are you okay?

So why did you tag me in then, sycophant?

You said you and your husband.

I tagged you in to use you as an example as Micky is now being used AND to hold you to account of your statement.

This is what ALL the casuals that pass through here need to be thinking, why are they all under vaxxed. You've only had two and stopped in 2021 yet pushed, shamed and screamed vaxx until now. Why only two if you're a believer? Simple as that you're a useful example.
 
No but I'm tired and busy, you're correct and I misread your reply and point.


"LOL, so then go find evidence of that. The estimate for adverse reactions caused by vaccines doesn't evaluate the rate caused in children. Yet it's being compared to figures of hospitalization/death prevention by vaccines that does."

We have actual evidence though and it is Pfizer's original childrens trial and this was disregarded, due to the adverse reactions caused. Just the fraud proven on Maddie de Garay case should have shut down the trial and stopped the childrens rollout. The trial showed that a 1:2000 child patient's may be catastrophicly injured yet the hospitalisation rate for a healthy child from covid is statistically zero.


"My links aren't disabled. Again, this is an asinine, nonsensical reply. It's a very basic question. Why are figures for grossly different date ranges being compared?"

It isn't a non sensical reply when I am now unable to access the government data that the conclusion were produced from. Your two links work but the all the data used in the links analysis are now blocked.
The date ranges for the start of 2020 in the vaccine adverse reactions is included due to the adverse reactions linked in the clinical trials. This is fair.



"Also, no, that isn't how COVID deaths were counted. Jesus, dude, a pinch of skeptical thinking would do you so much good."

Ironic statement on critical thinking, I am correct. What changed was when the mandate from the WHO became common knowledge, until than it was followed to the letter.
After people being shot to death (New Zealand) and the incoming Italian election and the subsequent governments sudden case of honestly and the revised death tolls a "little" more honesty was added to the Italian system deaths(reduction by 96% iirc). Since than other governments have gone on record trying to re write history and usually just before an election (Australia's liar ScoMo and NSW liberal party)

i.e.
NZ- Shot to death and the WHO mandates ALL our country's followed



UK- for ease of search, ALL western countries followed this mandate. All of them
https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/13847/pdf/

"Constant changing of scales and metrics used in data reporting. For example, deaths were recorded as COVID-19 deaths if they occurred within 28 days of a positive test and this has recently been changed to 60 days if COVID-19 appears on the death certificate. This change was done in reaction to a recommendation that the period should be reduced to 21 days. The change was made with no accompanying explanation of why it was increased rather than decreased."



"'death' = death from anything within 28 days of positive test result)"


This is very old and done to deaths news Mick, you have to know this which makes me wonder if you're lying. If so it indicates either "saw a loose thread" or "white knighting". We'll narrow it down by the end don't you worry.


Now don't be a pussy mate, you're now in the game pushing this shit arent you?
Lets see some flesh instead of words. How many and when was your last one? Don't deflect ignore or divert, you are saying safe and effective aren't you?
Stating I'm not critically thinking yet what you wrote directly contrindicts known policy and that you will not divulge your vaxx status is an indicator for deception.

Bro, spare me the wall of bullshit as cover for the bullshit you already copy-pasted/linked that you fell for.

The gist of your posts assertion was very basic: vaccines cause more severe adverse health events than they prevent. But it compared entirely dissimilar groups and date ranges. Stop copy-pasting your confirmation bias. Start thinking for yourself.
 
You said you and your husband.

I tagged you in to use you as an example as Micky is now being used AND to hold you to account of your statement.

This is what ALL the casuals that pass through here need to be thinking, why are they all under vaxxed. You've only had two and stopped in 2021 yet pushed, shamed and screamed vaxx until now. Why only two if you're a believer? Simple as that you're a useful example.
FUCKING HELL has anyone heard this bollocks. "he casuals that pass through here".
Ahahahaha. Please mask up, please sanitize before and after entering.
 
Bro, spare me the wall of bullshit as cover for the bullshit you already copy-pasted/linked that you fell for.

The gist of your posts assertion was very basic: vaccines cause more severe adverse health events than they prevent. But it compared entirely dissimilar groups and date ranges. Stop copy-pasting your confirmation bias. Start thinking for yourself.

Lol. I can think for myself, it's why I've had zero covid vaxxes. (At least injected)

"compared entirely dissimilar groups and date ranges."
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The summary is wrong, it indicates that this needs further investigation.
Just as the immediate censorship of the government data certainly isnt proof that of crime it's an indication that it MAY be so.

Driving so

Stop presenting your confirmation bias. Start thinking for yourself and grow a set.

How many covid vaxxes you had Micky and when was the last one? Every single person on here can clearly see the weasel behind your replies.

Sometimes you have to pull the pockets out, undo the fly and have a go at a pink nosed elephant. Hiding a small cock doesn't fool anyone, you not answering this basic question that all the vaxx pushers need to answer isn't fooling anyone. Forget the socks and lay it on the table, how many and when was the last one?
 
Lol. I can think for myself, it's why I've had zero covid vaxxes. (At least injected)

"compared entirely dissimilar groups and date ranges."
=\=
The summary is wrong, it indicates that this needs further investigation.
Just as the immediate censorship of the government data certainly isnt proof that of crime it's an indication that it MAY be so.

Driving so

Stop presenting your confirmation bias. Start thinking for yourself and grow a set.

How many covid vaxxes you had Micky and when was the last one? Every single person on here can clearly see the weasel behind your replies.

Sometimes you have to pull the pockets out, undo the fly and have a go at a pink nosed elephant. Hiding a small cock doesn't fool anyone, you not answering this basic question that all the vaxx pushers need to answer isn't fooling anyone. Forget the socks and lay it on the table, how many and when was the last one?
I see that not only are you incapable of discerning propaganda deliberately feeding you lies with calculated misinformation, but you are determined to ignore people who enlighten you to your gullibility.

You do you.
 
Lol. I can think for myself, it's why I've had zero covid vaxxes. (At least injected)

"compared entirely dissimilar groups and date ranges."
=\=
The summary is wrong, it indicates that this needs further investigation.
Just as the immediate censorship of the government data certainly isnt proof that of crime it's an indication that it MAY be so.

Driving so

Stop presenting your confirmation bias. Start thinking for yourself and grow a set.

How many covid vaxxes you had Micky and when was the last one? Every single person on here can clearly see the weasel behind your replies.

Sometimes you have to pull the pockets out, undo the fly and have a go at a pink nosed elephant. Hiding a small cock doesn't fool anyone, you not answering this basic question that all the vaxx pushers need to answer isn't fooling anyone. Forget the socks and lay it on the table, how many and when was the last one?
This was quite a repulsive description, I feel bad for @Madmick with that. Pretty fucking intrusive and unnecessary. Weird you being so descriptive about his dick.
 
Not suprised cuffs is here fawning over another mod.
Slurp slurp..
Funny how I've never called you out for fawning over our Antipodean liar before isn't it?
"Another" mod? What? I've known Madmick longer than the one who kept putting you in your place. There are other threads, flid.
 
- Vacines like covax dont cause more adverse effects than they prevent.
And even those possible side effects that can happen are rares.

Steroids do cause Myocarditis for example, and every alert against them say this, but you have to abuse them to get those side effects, its impossible to abuse covax vacines, they only last 3 days on the organism, so no able time to cause adverse effects after all.
 
Steroids do cause Myocarditis for example, and every alert against them say this, but you have to abuse them to get those side effects, its impossible to abuse covax vacines, they only last 3 days on the organism, so no able time to cause adverse effects after all.

Prove it. Show me the pharmacokinetics studies which claim that they last only 3 days after injection.
 
I see that not only are you incapable of discerning propaganda deliberately feeding you lies with calculated misinformation, but you are determined to ignore people who enlighten you to your gullibility.

You do you.

The irony of your statement is palpable.

If only you could employ such critical big brain thinking when it’s multibillion dollar corps and their proxies insisting that their experimental product is “safe and effective.”

Talk about gullible, you march in lockstep with some of the largest provably criminal organizations on the planet.
 
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