Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread Vol. 2

[aerius]

His video on kids and the vaccine is one of the worst. I won't post it because I don't think kids need to be vaccinated, but he actively ignores 95% of the data against his position to get his conclusion that the vaccine was worse than covid based off the data he used. It completely destroys any credibility as a source of anything worth watching.

Don't tell me, show me. Show me the data he used and the data which you claim he rejected. Then show that it skewed the conclusion in the way you claim.

 

[mon]

Don't tell me, show me. Show me the data he used and the data which you claim he rejected. Then show that it skewed the conclusion in the way you claim.

Lol, just stop. You've seen how this plays out, its about implications and talking like its a fact. All about the "belief" based "thinking"

 

[Bald1]

For every anecdotal case someone can whip up tens of thousands the opposite way. That's why we don't use that as an argument for this. Even if you include anecdotal evidence it doesn't prove what you think it does.

His video on kids and the vaccine is one of the worst. I won't post it because I don't think kids need to be vaccinated, but he actively ignores 95% of the data against his position to get his conclusion that the vaccine was worse than covid based off the data he used. It completely destroys any credibility as a source of anything worth watching.

What do you think I think anecdotal evidence proves? You're tilting at windmills there. It's all anecdotal until it gets compiled.

Data is data is data. Some data gets ignored. I don't give a single flying fuck what "side" the data supports. I care about getting accurate information.

 

[maximus__]

This is about the goofyist shite that I've read today.
That dude in question spent two years leaning really hard as a pro lockdown get the jab, data driven gob shite.
Something has rattled his cage and now he is fighting the other way it seems .

You can interpret it how ever you wish.
It is what it is.

This is the issue, i couldn't care if he was pro vax or not. My issue is his misinterpretation of data to tell a crap narrative that falls apart in 10 seconds of internet searching.
This thread is filled with videos like this on the anti vaccine side. If someone posts up a video that says the vaccine has no side effects, prevents all infection forever etc and uses data from 2020 I will call it out also. The situation has evolved and covid is not longer what it was in 2020.

 

[Strychnine]

As a white man born under communism I'm telling you that you had more rights growing up than hundreds of millions of white people during the same time. I get where you're coming from, even if my experiences weren't as bad as yours.

With that out of the way, it'd be better if the party was over, right? We all got screwed by how our governments handled Covid. Could be good intentions gone wrong or incompetence, but we shouldn't just shrug it off.

Oh, I'm not shrugging it off by any means.

I just want to say to all of those screaming monetary injustice and tyranny, that you're now getting a teaspoon of what my entire meal has been like.

And it tastes pretty foul doesn't it?

Now imagine having to subsist on the entire meal forever and call it sustenance.

 

[Strychnine]

Totally .

We weren't acting like goons.

Good luck in your child like world of idiot behaviors.

 

[Anewt]

Oh, I'm not shrugging it off by any means.

I just want to say to all of those screaming monetary injustice and tyranny, that you're now getting a teaspoon of what my entire meal has been like.

And it tastes pretty foul doesn't it?

Now imagine having to subsist on the entire meal forever and call it sustenance.

Wait. Because you're a Blackman in Americas south your experiences are equivalent to people being screwed over by government over reach ?

Forgive me.. didn't you go to the military and learn medicine?

No offence but those who feel they've been impacted by the government's decisions and tyranny.... don't often join the military to serve those who caused said person monetary injustice and tyranny.........

 

[Bald1]

Oh, I'm not shrugging it off by any means.

I just want to say to all of those screaming monetary injustice and tyranny, that you're now getting a teaspoon of what my entire meal has been like.

And it tastes pretty foul doesn't it?

Now imagine having to subsist on the entire meal forever and call it sustenance.

And many of us screaming monetary tyranny and injustice are quite familiar with those things as well.

I've had my taste.


Besides all that, there's no sense in playing this us against them game, when it's not you and I who are the real problem. Nevermind it helps those who are more than happy to take advantage of us plebs bickering and so staying distracted while they go though our pockets. You growing up as a black man in the south and me coming from communism are irrelevant in this conversation. The biggest upwards funneling of wealth in history? Well that's something everyone should be talking about.

 

[Strychnine]

Wait. Because you're a Blackman in Americas south your experiences are equivalent to people being screwed over by government over reach ?

Forgive me.. didn't you go to the military and learn medicine?

No offence but those who feel they've been impacted by the government's decisions and tyranny.... don't often join the military to serve those who caused said person monetary injustice and tyranny.........

It was either that or starve.

I'm being VERY literal.

 

[Andy Capp]

Lies damned lies and statistics.

If he can do this by cherry picking peer reviewed data, imagine what people could do by not including "anecdotal evidence" in surveys and studies?

lol keep trying, it's cute.

 

[maximus__]

What do you think I think anecdotal evidence proves? You're tilting at windmills there. It's all anecdotal until it gets compiled.

Data is data is data. Some data gets ignored. I don't give a single flying fuck what "side" the data supports. I care about getting accurate information.

The issue with anecdotal data is you don't have a control or start point. It's how we got covid induced motor bike deaths because they decided covid infection = covid death. Now we have the opposite. Vaccination available date=Vaccination death or injury.

I pointed this out with the Aussie data previously. From memory the vaccine deaths are under 20 with 95% +of the population double dosed. Our version of Vaers had something like just under 1000 reported deaths. Even if I was to assume that of those 1000 deaths that were reported were all actually vaccine induced deaths it came out around 0.0005 percent or something. Even if I say that every single death reported was linked to the vaccine(it wasn't) I still come out with a ridiculously low number in a population that was vaccinated en masse.

Most of those deaths occurred with Astrazeneca which was then removed from being a general use vaccine for most age groups.

Even when i stack it towards the vaccine being the cause of all problems it isn't. That's all the youtubers do they just pick data that gets them there.
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/covid-1...rts/covid-19-vaccine-safety-report-15-12-2022

 

[Strychnine]

And many of us screaming monetary tyranny and injustice are quite familiar with those things as well.

I've had my taste.


Besides all that, there's no sense in playing this us against them game, when it's not you and I who are the real problem. Nevermind it helps those who are more than happy to take advantage of us plebs bickering and so staying distracted while they go though our pockets. You growing up as a black man in the south and me coming from communism are irrelevant in this conversation. The biggest upwards funneling of wealth in history? Well that's something everyone should be talking about.

You've seen politics in the U.S.

Whenever someone actually speaks out about what you're talking about, they're labeled "Communist, Socialist, Liberal Scum, etc." Then the low-information voter is duped into voting against their own interests.

Until people get educated on that subject, it's going to be wash, rinse, repeat. All I'm saying is that now everyone else is in the washing machine with me and they're SHOCKED at how it feels.

But to me?

And from this point on, it only gets rougher.

People had better buckle up because that freight train is headed full steam down the tracks and the brakes failed decades ago.

 

[Anewt]

It was either that or starve.

I'm being VERY literal.

Yeah. I have no doubt you've experienced vastly different things than me. I just find it strange to go from this government is tyrannical to serving said government and then maintain that role serving said government for years.. even years after the point where you had financial security.

I'm quite sure I've seen you refer to duty and potray a viewpoint that it was valuable and honourable role. Which I can agree with.

Serving faithfully is something to be proud of. No issues there. Serving a system that by your own words is monetarily tyrannical and your own choice was that or starve? Not so much especially the extended length of time. There's a massive contradiction there to me.

But it does explain the absurdity of your everyone gets a choice line to people who had the same choice as you. Obey or starve. That's not a choice. You've been conned my friend

 

[Bald1]

The issue with anecdotal data is you don't have a control or start point. It's how we got covid induced motor bike deaths because they decided covid infection = covid death. Now we have the opposite. Vaccination available date=Vaccination death or injury.

I pointed this out with the Aussie data previously. From memory the vaccine deaths are under 20 with 95% +of the population double dosed. Our version of Vaers had something like just under 1000 reported deaths. Even if I was to assume that of those 1000 deaths that were reported were all actually vaccine induced deaths it came out around 0.0005 percent or something. Even if I say that every single death reported was linked to the vaccine(it wasn't) I still come out with a ridiculously low number in a population that was vaccinated en masse.

Most of those deaths occurred with Astrazeneca which was then removed from being a general use vaccine for most age groups.

Even when i stack it towards the vaccine being the cause of all problems it isn't. That's all the youtubers do they just pick data that gets them there.
https://www.tga.gov.au/news/covid-1...rts/covid-19-vaccine-safety-report-15-12-2022

I don't think the vaccines are what some portray them to be. I know plenty of people who are vaccinated without any side effects.

I'm telling you that there's data that's being ignored under the guise of it being "anecdotal evidence". I know two people who claim to have had negative reactions and their experiences are not taken into consideration or even recorded from what they tell me. Yes, unless there's corroborating evidence their experiences can be misleading or false or they're just being disingenuous. But to outright dismiss personal experiences is misleading.

Compile and review. Simple as that.

 

[Bald1]

lol keep trying, it's cute.

Hi Andy. Hope your holidays were awesome. Be well.

 

[maximus__]

Don't tell me, show me. Show me the data he used and the data which you claim he rejected. Then show that it skewed the conclusion in the way you claim.

His own video where he goes from something like 238 adverse reactions from covid to 5.
He decides that only 5 reactions of that data set matter because the others may have been precautionary hospitalisations.
He decides only reactions requiring assisted breathing count from memory.

Have you watched his videos? All you have to do is read the studies he references as you watch them to watch the narrative fall apart.

You could just watch his own video critically to come to a similar conclusion.

"He does a different analysis, however. Instead of comparing the number of Covid hospitalisations among vaccinated and unvaccinated children, he compares the number of serious Covid hospitalisations by his own definition (five, who received oxygen treatment) with the number of adverse events reported following vaccination (22), thereby seeming to suggest that the risk of vaccination may outweigh the risk of Covid-19 to children."

In any case, Dr Campbell does not count the total number of hospitalisations with Covid (288). He counts only the hospitalisations that needed oxygen treatment (five), with the justification that he believes “a lot are being admitted on a precautionary basis”.

https://fullfact.org/health/john-campbell-youtube-singapore-children/

 

[Andy Capp]

Hi Andy. Hope your holidays were awesome. Be well.

Right back atcha.

 

[aerius]

His own video where he goes from something like 238 adverse reactions from covid to 5.
He decides that only 5 reactions of that data set matter because the others may have been precautionary hospitalisations.
He decides only reactions requiring assisted breathing count from memory.

Have you watched his videos? All you have to do is read the studies he references as you watch them to watch the narrative fall apart.

You could just watch his own video critically to come to a similar conclusion.

"He does a different analysis, however. Instead of comparing the number of Covid hospitalisations among vaccinated and unvaccinated children, he compares the number of serious Covid hospitalisations by his own definition (five, who received oxygen treatment) with the number of adverse events reported following vaccination (22), thereby seeming to suggest that the risk of vaccination may outweigh the risk of Covid-19 to children."

In any case, Dr Campbell does not count the total number of hospitalisations with Covid (288). He counts only the hospitalisations that needed oxygen treatment (five), with the justification that he believes “a lot are being admitted on a precautionary basis”.

https://fullfact.org/health/john-campbell-youtube-singapore-children/

Lol. From the "debunking"
Firstly, the total number of children seriously ill in hospital with Covid doesn’t measure the underlying risk of the disease to them, because about four fifths of the children in the study had already been protected by the vaccine—meaning some of them may otherwise have caught Covid and got seriously ill, but didn’t.

Summer of 2022 and they're still repeating that lie. <45>
Tells me all I need to know.

 

[2fast2see]

The Magic of mRNA Will Push Medical Advances for Everyone

They left off the word "trick."

"The potential of mRNA vaccines goes beyond the coronavirus. We now want to use this technology to tackle two of the world’s oldest and deadliest pathogens: malaria and tuberculosis. Worldwide, there are around 10 million new cases of tuberculosis every year. For malaria, the medical need is even higher: about 230 million malaria cases have been reported in the WHO Africa region in 2020, with most deaths occurring among children under 5."
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/mrna-medicine-technology

 

[Anewt]

The Magic of mRNA Will Push Medical Advances for Everyone

They left off the word "trick."

"The potential of mRNA vaccines goes beyond the coronavirus. We now want to use this technology to tackle two of the world’s oldest and deadliest pathogens: malaria and tuberculosis. Worldwide, there are around 10 million new cases of tuberculosis every year. For malaria, the medical need is even higher: about 230 million malaria cases have been reported in the WHO Africa region in 2020, with most deaths occurring among children under 5."
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/mrna-medicine-technology

I'll believe it when I see it. Even if they made it and a safe version for people ( hypothetically ) they still won't end up in the places required because they can't afford them and the goal of the mrna vaccinations being created is to make profits. Not for health.

It's why pfizer literally laughed when asked if they stopped transmission and said " we had to move at the speed of science. To understand what is taking place in the market "

It's clearly not about health.