Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread Vol. 2

[lifelessheap]

LoL. Long Covid gets the business.

 

[Rob Battisti]

You need to learn to critically evaluate evidence and claims — don’t just swallow them up because they sound convincing initially.

The samples have been tested and are negative for SARSCOV2

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2951-z

“Recently, we retested the samples with our validated enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) against the SARS coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) nucleocapsid protein—which has greater than 90% amino acid sequence identity with bat SARSr-CoV Rp3—and confirmed that these patients were not infected by SARS-CoV-2.”

Secondly, RaTG13 doesn’t in anyway indicate the presence of sarscov2 nor the existence of the progenitor virus. No competent virologist would think otherwise. We’ve actually found bat coronaviruses with RBDs far closer to SARSCOV2.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04532-4

And the geographical coincidence between the WIV and the outbreak isn’t as unlikely as it seems. I’m happy to elaborate.

Alternatively, there is very compelling epidemiological and genetic evidence that sarscov2 progenitor did indeed jump into an intermediate host at the wet market, evolve and transmit in that host, and then transmit to humans which kicked off the pandemic.

It’s time to let the lab leak die. It was plausible and deserved consideration. The evidence has rejected it.

What? What are you even talking about. “The sample have been tested” I didn’t say the cave samples were sarsCOV2.

 

[Rob Battisti]

You need to learn to critically evaluate evidence and claims — don’t just swallow them up because they sound convincing initially.

The samples have been tested and are negative for SARSCOV2

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2951-z

“Recently, we retested the samples with our validated enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) against the SARS coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) nucleocapsid protein—which has greater than 90% amino acid sequence identity with bat SARSr-CoV Rp3—and confirmed that these patients were not infected by SARS-CoV-2.”

Secondly, RaTG13 doesn’t in anyway indicate the presence of sarscov2 nor the existence of the progenitor virus. No competent virologist would think otherwise. We’ve actually found bat coronaviruses with RBDs far closer to SARSCOV2.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04532-4

And the geographical coincidence between the WIV and the outbreak isn’t as unlikely as it seems. I’m happy to elaborate.

Alternatively, there is very compelling epidemiological and genetic evidence that sarscov2 progenitor did indeed jump into an intermediate host at the wet market, evolve and transmit in that host, and then transmit to humans which kicked off the pandemic.

It’s time to let the lab leak die. It was plausible and deserved consideration. The evidence has rejected it.

Also you posted a article which supports what I’m saying. Did you even read it?

 

[Queen B]

The potential next Fauci says we are dealing with 7 pandemics at once. I think the biggest ones are Flu and RSV

 

[Strychnine]

Got my flu shot!

 

[Greco_Wiz]

Also you posted a article which supports what I’m saying. Did you even read it?

I’ve indeed read it. I don’t think you understand your own argument. They demonstrated that SARSCOV2 was not the causal agent of disease in the patients who visited the mine. So exactly what is your point? That a different virus was brought back to the lab, and what, it was genetically engineered into sarscov2? Specifically what connection are you trying to make between the mine workers, sarscov2 and the WIV?

 

[Rob Battisti]

I’ve indeed read it. I don’t think you understand your own argument. They demonstrated that SARSCOV2 was not the causal agent of disease in the patients who visited the mine. So exactly what is your point? That a different virus was brought back to the lab, and what, it was genetically engineered into sarscov2? Specifically what connection are you trying to make between the mine workers, sarscov2 and the WIV?

I agreed it wasn’t the causal agent

 

[lifelessheap]

Got my flu shot!

Have you scheduled your booster?

 

[Greco_Wiz]

I agreed it wasn’t the causal agent

You keep repeating what you’re not claiming. I’m more interested in what you are claiming.

 

[Nimrod]

Got my flu shot!

How brave of you.

Thanks for letting us all know..

 

[Rob Battisti]

You keep repeating what you’re not claiming. I’m more interested in what you are claiming.

That the samples from the cave which had 96% identity at the genome level was brought back to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. An institution with the largest database of bat coronaviruses(erased shortly after Covid broke out) and a history of gain of function research and lab leaks.

There are a lot of other things I would claim as well, but I’m not convinced you’re willing to converse in good faith.

 

[Bry]

Found this interesting: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/new...A150kVt?cvid=724949ac9eb14bf8a786fb5be4eeb071

Basically confirming some of what has been said here. Australia is experiencing a higher than normal death rates.
From the article:
"This came after Australia's latest mortality data released in November showed that there had been 128,797 deaths from Jan. 1 to Aug. 31, which was 17% higher than the historical average."

Usually death rates only differentiate a few percentage points, not 17%.

Bry

 

[PhitePhan]

Got my flu shot!

Have you scheduled your booster?

How brave of you.

Thanks for letting us all know..

Didn’t we just talk about NOT responding to trolls?!

 

[genecop]

 

[genecop]

Found this interesting: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/new...A150kVt?cvid=724949ac9eb14bf8a786fb5be4eeb071

Basically confirming some of what has been said here. Australia is experiencing a higher than normal death rates.
From the article:
"This came after Australia's latest mortality data released in November showed that there had been 128,797 deaths from Jan. 1 to Aug. 31, which was 17% higher than the historical average."

Usually death rates only differentiate a few percentage points, not 17%.

Bry

But Vaccines save lives…No?

 

[Nimrod]

Didn’t we just talk about NOT responding to trolls?!

Sorry couldn't help myself.

I will take note though.

 

[Nimrod]

Antidote story

Just happened.

Called Dr for blood results.

Secretary said doing to be delays because of children emergency with the strep A stuff.

Lockdowns have bummed the kids in more ways than one.

This is a fucking abominable situation our children are in.

If you need one reason never to lockdown a society just look at how it effects the kids. Then ask yourself if it's worth it?

 

[lifelessheap]

Somehow we all survived the winter of illness and death. Somehow we are surviving another winter of the same.

We had RSV. It was worse than SARS COV 2. Also just got over the flu. It was very mild. I just didn't eat for four days and lost some weight. Kinda nice.

I'm full of natural immunity and zero fear.


Watching that dude fish out scares me though.
People keep telling stories of sudden deaths at work. Bereavement scheduling is hurting productivity at my wife's corporation.
What's the world gonna be with +15% death and -15% birth?

Should be a spicy next decade.

 

[genecop]

What's the world gonna be with +15% death and -15% birth?

Should be a spicy next decade.

Should be less traffic and easier getting dinner reservations..

 

[Ichibanner]

SARS CoV-2 derived S-protein in COVID 19 Patients = Likely cause of long term health issues due to resulting inflammation and damage to cells, tissue, and organs. One study showed that the S protein could damage the endothelium and disrupt the blood–brain barrier resulting in perivascular inflammation and stimulation of peripheral nerves affecting sensory and motor function.

S-protein from COVID 19 Vaccines = Growing evidence that it is a cause of long term health issues due to resulting inflammation and damage to cells, tissue, and organs. Current research appears to show that the S protein could damage the endothelium and disrupt the blood–brain barrier resulting in perivascular inflammation and stimulation of peripheral nerves affecting sensory and motor function.

Additionally, it is believed that COVID 19 Vaccines may induce a "Cytokine Storm:, causing SIRS (acute inflammation throughout the whole body) resulting in fever, rapid change in heart rate, decreased blood pressure, and other symptoms which may lead to death. - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9420842/

We've been told the vaccine is safe. That the resulting immune response was safe. All COVID-19 vaccines rely on the S protein of the original Wuhan-Hu-1 strain. Why is it so hard to believe that the body may suffer many differing adverse events when the S protein is present in the vaccine itself? Why, at this point in time, fight against the idea that healthy individuals should re-consider getting the vaccine due to the mounting body of evidence that they will most likely be in contact with SARS-CoV-2 regardless, natural immune response is preferred, and the risk / reward of the shot is such that you could render yourself permanently disabled over a virus with a high survivability rate?

Get the shot. Get the follow up shot. Get boosters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. Line up for any and all updated shots and boosters. Enjoy that life. Most people still crowing about the vaccines are trolls who gave up on keeping "up to date" on boosters a year or more ago and simply like being contrary.


STUDIES / SOURCES:

Theoharides T.C. (2022) Could SARS-CoV-2 spike protein be responsible for long-COVID syndrome? Mol. Neurobiol. 59, 1850–1861 10.1007/s12035-021-02696-0 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8757925/

Nauen D.W., Hooper J.E., Stewart C.M. and Solomon I.H. (2021) Assessing brain capillaries in coronavirus disease 2019. JAMA Neurol. 78, 760–762 10.1001/jamaneurol.2021.0225
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7881367/

Dhamoon M.S., Thaler A., Gururangan K., Kohli A., Sisniega D., Wheelwright D.et al.. (2021) Acute cerebrovascular events with COVID-19 infection. Stroke 52, 48–56 10.1161/STROKEAHA.120.031668 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33280551/

Abramczyk, H., Brozek-Pluska, B. and Beton, K. (2022) "Decoding COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Immunometabolism in Central Nervous System: human brain normal glial and glioma cells by Raman imaging
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...tudied-by-Raman-spectroscopy-and-imaging.aspx

Ismail II, Salama S. A systematic review of cases of CNS demyelination following COVID-19 vaccination. J Neuroimmunol. 2022;362:577765.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165572821002927

A Case Report: Multifocal Necrotizing Encefphalitis and Mycarditis after BNT162b2 MRNA Vaccination against COVID-19
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/10/10/1651