Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread Vol. 2

[Bald1]

Enjoy the go, shitheel.

Oh deary me! Will you look at that name calling. Won't you think of your reputation?!

 

[maximus__]

" but none of this leads to the NWO taking us over one conspiracy at a time especially via a free vaccine."
So you think they gave you a 'free' vaccine out of love? The lockdowns, tape on the floor, 6 feet apart (not 5 or 7 feet), closing the schools and forcing people to wear masks were done out of love? How do you feel about what is going on in China? Locked down for over 3 months etc...?

Conduct a quick internet search on the Spanish flu. What strategies did they use to attempt to combat the spread? None of this is new.

They used the exact same strategy they have used multiple times in history and added the rapid development of a vaccine into the mix.

They do the exact same thing every time something like this happens. The difference being this time a bunch of idiots thought they were experts because someone told them covid was"insert whatever conspiracy you feel like".

We actually could have stopped covid in it's tracks if China fully locked people down early and the virus didn't go worldwide. I don't like lock downs personally so I am generally against them just on principle.

 

[Andy Capp]

Oh deary me! Will you look at that name calling. Won't you think of your reputation?!

Context? What in the actual fuck is that?

Funny how your idea of trolling is to act so triggered you think I fucked your sister and pissed on your dog, not necessarily in that order.

 

[Bald1]

Conduct a quick internet search on the Spanish flu. What strategies did they use to attempt to combat the spread? None of this is new.

They used the exact same strategy they have used multiple times in history and added the rapid development of a vaccine into the mix.

They do the exact same thing every time something like this happens. The difference being this time a bunch of idiots thought they were experts because someone told them covid was"insert whatever conspiracy you feel like".

We actually could have stopped covid in it's tracks if China fully locked people down early and the virus didn't go worldwide. I don't like lock downs personally so I am generally against them just on principle.

There are lots of differences between the Spanish flu and COVID-19.

- The Spanish flu was much more deadly. 50 million dead when the global population was under 2 billion.
- The Wuflu is just a bad flu as it turns out. Deal with it. 6.5 million dead and the global population is 4 times what it was a hundred years ago. Keep in mind global travel is ubiquitous now vs a hundred years ago. Nevermind the bullshit "with Covid" thing that's been admitted to. Nobody dies from the flu anymore either? Bullshit!
- We knew from the get go that over 40% of people with Covid are asymptomatic. That speaks both to it's virulence and how easily it can spread. Everyone has been exposed to Covid by now. Everyone.
- Best guess is 30% of the global population was exposed to the Spanish flu in comparison.

So let's not compare aplles to hand grenades. And we knew by June of 2019 here, in this little corner of the internet, that the only reason Covid was a problem is because how easily it spreads.There was no stopping this thing. Not if China nuked Wuhan in February of 2019. It was already too late. Nevermind they actually promoted the fucking thing globally while trying to contain it locally.

So, run the numbers. The Spanish flu killed nine times as many people at a time when we were much more isolated and independent as people. Meaning much less likely to be in contact with the virus. There's no comparison and to try to draw parallels is pure foolishness.

This topic should have been put to bed a year ago at the latest. Covid is here and we have to learn to live with it. What we don't have to live with is fear mongering, government overreach and cowards or interested parties dictating our lives.

 

[Bald1]

Context? What in the actual fuck is that?

Funny how your idea of trolling is to act so triggered you think I fucked your sister and pissed on your dog, not necessarily in that order.

My dog died a few months ago and my sister would make you her bitch. Maybe even turn you out but there's no profit in your old ass bones.

Triggered? Lol.

 

[Andy Capp]

My dog died a few months ago and my sister would make you her bitch. Maybe even turn you out but there's no profit in your old ass bones.

Triggered? Lol.

Case in point.

So, how's that new premier working out for you guys? Joining in the protests, no doubt?

 

[Bald1]

Case in point.

So, how's that new premier working out for you guys? Joining in the protests, no doubt?

You're like that yappy puppy that jumps all over everyone trying to establish dominance. Except you can't jump, can barely see, and your two remaining teeth are as dull as your geriatric mind. You're bothersome at your best and I've given you enough attention. Shoo, go away...

 

[mon]

I think you're right. We already have evidence that the shots do all kinds of wonky things to the stem cells and immune system cells in umbilical cord blood.
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/169771915/
I bet we'd find some really ugly things if we took blood samples from babies with vaccinated mothers, and that it would also explain why they're getting hit with all kinds of illnesses they normally shrug off. I would not be surprised if we see a lot of Bubble Boys in the generation that's now being born.

Babies can't talk but they can act distressed, Naomi Wolf talks about in the interview I've posted a few times.

Just the logic or lack thereof to say safe and effective for babies and pregnant women without any actual safety data worth a damn let alone long term.

What could go wrong, personally I think this is going to make every other drug travesty look like a walk in the park

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Conduct a quick internet search on the Spanish flu. What strategies did they use to attempt to combat the spread? None of this is new.

They used the exact same strategy they have used multiple times in history and added the rapid development of a vaccine into the mix.

They do the exact same thing every time something like this happens. The difference being this time a bunch of idiots thought they were experts because someone told them covid was"insert whatever conspiracy you feel like".

We actually could have stopped covid in it's tracks if China fully locked people down early and the virus didn't go worldwide. I don't like lock downs personally so I am generally against them just on principle.

I'm pretty familiar with the Spanish flu already. I did that research very early on during this 'pandemic'. Did the U.S. mandate masks and close down schools during the Spanish flu? I also read the Great Barrington Declaration. That seemed at the time the best way to deal with this. It still seems like the best way to me.

 

[maximus__]

There are lots of differences between the Spanish flu and COVID-19.

- The Spanish flu was much more deadly. 50 million dead when the global population was under 2 billion.
- The Wuflu is just a bad flu as it turns out. Deal with it. 6.5 million dead and the global population is 4 times what it was a hundred years ago. Keep in mind global travel is ubiquitous now vs a hundred years ago. Nevermind the bullshit "with Covid" thing that's been admitted to. Nobody dies from the flu anymore either? Bullshit!
- We knew from the get go that over 40% of people with Covid are asymptomatic. That speaks both to it's virulence and how easily it can spread. Everyone has been exposed to Covid by now. Everyone.
- Best guess is 30% of the global population was exposed to the Spanish flu in comparison.

So let's not compare aplles to hand grenades. And we knew by June of 2019 here, in this little corner of the internet, that the only reason Covid was a problem is because how easily it spreads.There was no stopping this thing. Not if China nuked Wuhan in February of 2019. It was already too late. Nevermind they actually promoted the fucking thing globally while trying to contain it locally.

So, run the numbers. The Spanish flu killed nine times as many people at a time when we were much more isolated and independent as people. Meaning much less likely to be in contact with the virus. There's no comparison and to try to draw parallels is pure foolishness.

This topic should have been put to bed a year ago at the latest. Covid is here and we have to learn to live with it. What we don't have to live with is fear mongering, government overreach and cowards or interested parties dictating our lives.

I agree it’s here to stay. I just use the similarity because it’s like people forget that every time we have some form of virus like this we don’t lock people down,isolate the infected and seek a treatment option. They went over the top this time because they thought it was going to be the next Spanish flu. Luckily that didn’t happen.

I use the Spanish flu to show that we did the same thing 100 years ago. Pick anyone of the more recent outbreaks and you instantly see the same approach.

I am just pointing out the similar approaches to people because we both know there are people posting in this thread that genuinely believe lockdowns and isolating the infected are just the Government seizing power to put up the 5G towers. Sure they took it to an extreme this time but they just applied the usual approach they always fo with more money thrown at the vaccine than usual.

 

[maximus__]

I'm pretty familiar with the Spanish flu already. I did that research very early on during this 'pandemic'. Did the U.S. mandate masks and close down schools during the Spanish flu? I also read the Great Barrington Declaration. That seemed at the time the best way to deal with this. It still seems like the best way to me.

All the data against masks not working is based on the use of the crap masks or people not wearing them correctly. I hate wearing a mask aswell but if done correctly it was a solid strategy.

Schools should have stayed open. You are assuming I am for lockdowns and all that crap. I am not. I just acknowledge that some measures should have worked if followed.

 

[PhitePhan]

Britain's health regulator backs COVID vaccine for infants from six months
https://www.yahoo.com/news/britains-health-regulator-approves-pfizer-113354989.html

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

All the data against masks not working is based on the use of the crap masks or people not wearing them correctly. I hate wearing a mask aswell but if done correctly it was a solid strategy.

Schools should have stayed open. You are assuming I am for lockdowns and all that crap. I am not. I just acknowledge that some measures should have worked if followed.

"You are assuming I am for lockdowns and all that crap."
I never said that. I will say many people on here and in my personal life were for all of it and if you didn't get vaccinated some believed you should lose your job, not be allowed in stores, not receive medical treatment etc... I am probably on the extreme side of things. When they implemented the 2 weeks to flatten the curve stuff (Here in the U.S.)I was very against that even though in theory it makes sense. They lost me after two weeks. Then again it was a very lonely feeling having done research on the Spanish Flu and was aware of the 1976 Swine Flu as well.

 

[maximus__]

"You are assuming I am for lockdowns and all that crap."
I never said that. I will say many people on here and in my personal life were for all of it and if you didn't get vaccinated some believed you should lose your job, not be allowed in stores, not receive medical treatment etc... I am probably on the extreme side of things. When they implemented the 2 weeks to flatten the curve stuff (Here in the U.S.)I was very against that even though in theory it makes sense. They lost me after two weeks. Then again it was a very lonely feeling having done research on the Spanish Flu and was aware of the 1976 Swine Flu as well.

I live in the country that had the longest lock downs in the world and was around for plenty of them across the two main states.
I hated them as a person living through them, but I have to acknowledge that the approach allowed all other states to avoid going into the same situation so they worked.

They just used a previous strategy that kinda worked before and paid someone an absolute fortune to do what they did every time something like this popped up.
Then they threw a heap of money at an easy option (vaccine) which is just the equivalent of the entire medical system these days. Throw some pills at it and mask the actual issues being obesity, poor health etc.A free shot for everyone is great because it was in their interest to get this sorted ASAP to open everything back up to make sure taxes and their wages were paid with as little effort as possible. Then they can go back to becoming billionaires whilst being a public servant. Nothing nefarious just normal incompetency.

 

[Mga223]

NSW has been warned for one last big covid wave.

It's crazy they don't throw up the vaccinated numbers anymore.

 

[Bald1]

I agree it’s here to stay. I just use the similarity because it’s like people forget that every time we have some form of virus like this we don’t lock people down,isolate the infected and seek a treatment option. They went over the top this time because they thought it was going to be the next Spanish flu. Luckily that didn’t happen.

I use the Spanish flu to show that we did the same thing 100 years ago. Pick anyone of the more recent outbreaks and you instantly see the same approach.

I am just pointing out the similar approaches to people because we both know there are people posting in this thread that genuinely believe lockdowns and isolating the infected are just the Government seizing power to put up the 5G towers. Sure they took it to an extreme this time but they just applied the usual approach they always fo with more money thrown at the vaccine than usual.

My main gripe is against the "we could have done better if we gave government more control" narrative.

As it turns out the only way we could have done better is if we were more like Sweden. A little healthier, a little more spread out, a little less social and let nature take it's course. Their economy hasn't suffered as badly, their current excess death numbers are balancing out their earlier ones and they didn't fuck over the next generation. Their immune systems are guaranteed to be superior as well.

Now contrast that with china. Their zero Covid policy is going to have exactly the opposite of stated intentions. If you lock up hundreds of people in viral load concentration camps then it stands to reason the likelihood of the virus mutating, or at least the mortality rate will increase. Viral load is absolutely a thing. Their approach is a sort of self fulfilling prophecy.

So no, I don't think a more restrictive approach would have been beneficial. A more selective one? Absolutely!

 

[mon]

NSW has been warned for one last big covid wave.

It's crazy they don't throw up the vaccinated numbers anymore.

You realise your NSW government very quietly removed the recommendation for the 6 months to 5 years be vaxxed?

Obviously nothing to do with Rennick, Antic and Robert's making a lot of noise on safety and efficacy, nothing at all.

 

[Anewt]

Conduct a quick internet search on the Spanish flu. What strategies did they use to attempt to combat the spread? None of this is new.

They used the exact same strategy they have used multiple times in history and added the rapid development of a vaccine into the mix.

They do the exact same thing every time something like this happens. The difference being this time a bunch of idiots thought they were experts because someone told them covid was"insert whatever conspiracy you feel like".

We actually could have stopped covid in it's tracks if China fully locked people down early and the virus didn't go worldwide. I don't like lock downs personally so I am generally against them just on principle.

I see this claim A lot in regards to the Spanish flue.

https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-52564371


Coronavirus: How they tried to curb Spanish flu pandemic in 1918

Covid-19 is an entirely new disease, which disproportionately affects older people. The deadly strain of influenza that swept the globe in 1918 tended to strike those aged between 20 and 30, with strong immune systems.

But the actions taken by governments and individuals to prevent the spread of infection have a familiar ring to them.

Public Health England studied the Spanish flu outbreak to draw up its initial contingency plan for coronavirus, the key lesson being that the second wave of the disease, in the autumn of 1918, proved to be far more deadly than the first.


( photo of group of women walking together. Was one of the recommendations. Morning and night walks. ( no social distancing no mask. Encouraged to be active and maintain social connections )

Britain was still at war when the virus claimed its first recorded victim, in May 1918. The government, like many others, was caught on the hop. It appears to have decided that the war effort took precedence over preventing flu deaths.

The disease spread like wildfire in crowded troop transports and munitions factories, and on buses and trains, according to a 1919 report by Sir Arthur Newsholme for the Royal Society of Medicine.

But a "memorandum for public use" he had written in July 1918, that advised people to stay at home if they were sick and to avoid large gatherings, was buried by the government.

Sir Arthur argued that many lives could have been saved if these rules had been followed, but he added: "There are national circumstances in which the major duty is to 'carry on', even when risk to health and life is involved."

The flu did not originate in Spain, but Spain was the first country to report deaths from it, leading to the assumption that it must have started there. Spain's newspapers were not subject to wartime censorship, because it was a neutral country. News of the epidemic was initially suppressed in other countries to avoid damaging morale.

In 1918, there were no treatments for influenza and no antibiotics to treat complications such as pneumonia. Hospitals were quickly overwhelmed.

There was no centrally imposed lockdown to curb the spread of infection, although many theatres, dance halls, cinemas and churches were closed, in some cases for months.

Pubs, which were already subject to wartime restrictions on opening hours, mostly stayed open. The Football League and the FA Cup had been cancelled for the war, but there was no effort to cancel other matches or limit crowds, with men's teams playing in regional competitions, and women's football, which attracted large crowds, continuing throughout the pandemic.

Streets in some towns and cities were sprayed with disinfectant and some people wore anti-germ masks, as they went about their daily lives.

Public health messages were confused - and, just like today, fake news and conspiracy theories abounded, although the general level of ignorance about healthy lifestyles did not help.

In some factories, no-smoking rules were relaxed, in the belief that cigarettes would help prevent infection.

During a Commons debate on the pandemic, Conservative MP Claude Lowther asked: "Is it a fact that a sure preventative against influenza is cocoa taken three times a day?"

Publicity campaigns and leaflets warned against spreading disease through coughs and sneezes.

In November 1918, the News of the World advised its readers to: "wash inside nose with soap and water each night and morning; force yourself to sneeze night and morning, then breathe deeply. Do not wear a muffler; take sharp walks regularly and walk home from work; eat plenty of porridge."

No country was untouched by the 1918 pandemic, although the scale of its impact, and of government efforts to protect their populations, varied widely.

In the United States, some states imposed quarantines on their citizens, with mixed results, while others tried to make the wearing of face masks compulsory. Cinemas, theatres and other places of entertainment were closed across the country.

Then, as now, fresh air was seen as a potential bulwark against the spread of infection, leading to some ingenious solutions to keep society going.

( Holding court outside) smarter than us.



The major differences between then and now . Is that despite having a pandemic with a far higher fatality rate . They used common sense. That entertainment ... family friends and fresh air were the best approach. A very much carry-on mentality, accepting there is risks and navigating the best they could.

We ? Shut-down the world.. disconnected people from the social norms of society ( family friends etc ) and tried to " vaccinate " our way out. We are so adverse to risk in this modern world we put ourselves in more danger because of our fears of small risk.

I wish we saw fresh air as vital....

 

[lifelessheap]

People are wrecking their hearts. This doc says to run a risk/benefit analysis before injecting.

 

[Greco_Wiz]

Are you familiar with the viral samples taken from the Yunnan miner incident that were taken to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the only level 4 biosecurity lab in China that was also studying bat coronaviruses? The one that killed 3 miners in 2012 with similar symptoms as sars-cov2?

If you aren’t, I suggest reading some of the work done by Jamie Metzle. His interview with Lex Friedman is a good introduction.

You need to learn to critically evaluate evidence and claims — don’t just swallow them up because they sound convincing initially.

The samples have been tested and are negative for SARSCOV2

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2951-z

“Recently, we retested the samples with our validated enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) against the SARS coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) nucleocapsid protein—which has greater than 90% amino acid sequence identity with bat SARSr-CoV Rp3—and confirmed that these patients were not infected by SARS-CoV-2.”

Secondly, RaTG13 doesn’t in anyway indicate the presence of sarscov2 nor the existence of the progenitor virus. No competent virologist would think otherwise. We’ve actually found bat coronaviruses with RBDs far closer to SARSCOV2.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04532-4

And the geographical coincidence between the WIV and the outbreak isn’t as unlikely as it seems. I’m happy to elaborate.

Alternatively, there is very compelling epidemiological and genetic evidence that sarscov2 progenitor did indeed jump into an intermediate host at the wet market, evolve and transmit in that host, and then transmit to humans which kicked off the pandemic.

It’s time to let the lab leak die. It was plausible and deserved consideration. The evidence has rejected it.