Law Going to jail over medical bills: Kansas

"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills": County in rural Kansas is jailing people over unpaid medical debt

There is at least one issue a divided electorate can come together on this election year: A recent poll finds 90% of those surveyed agreed on the importance of making health care more affordable.

Millions of Americans remain uninsured.

As Meg Oliver reports in partnership with ProPublica, some people are even going to jail because they're squeezed by a system that's putting new demands on overburdened incomes.

Tres and Heather Biggs' son Lane was diagnosed with leukemia when he was five years old. At the same time, Heather suffered seizures from Lyme disease.

"We had so many — multiple health issues in our family at the same time, it put us in a bracket that made insurance unattainable," Heather Biggs said. "It would have made no sense. We would have had to have not eaten, not had a home."

Tres Biggs was working two jobs but they fell behind on their medical bills, then the unthinkable happened.

"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills," Tres Biggs said.

Tres Biggs went to jail for failing to appear in court for unpaid medical bills. He described it as "scary."

"I was scared to death," Tres Biggs said. "I'm a country kid — I had to strip down, get hosed and put a jumpsuit on."

Bail was $500. He said they had "maybe $50 to $100" at the time.

In rural Coffeyville, Kansas, where the poverty rate is twice the national average, attorneys like Michael Hassenplug have built successful law practices representing medical providers to collect debt owed by their neighbors.

"I'm just doing my job," Hassenplug said. "They want the money collected, and I'm trying to do my job as best I can by following the law."

That law was put in place at Hassenplug's own recommendation to the local judge. The attorney uses that law by asking the court to direct people with unpaid medical bills to appear in court every three months and state they are too poor to pay in what is called a "debtors exam."

If two hearings are missed, the judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court. Bail is set at $500.

Hassenplug said he gets "paid on what's collected." If the bail money is applied to the judgment, then he gets a portion of that, he said.

"We're sending them to jail for contempt of court for failure to appear," Hassenplug said.

In most courts, bail money is returned when defendants appear in court. But in almost every case in Coffeyville, that money goes to pay attorneys like Hassenplug and the medical debt his clients are owed.

"This raises serious constitutional concerns," said Nusrat Choudhury, the deputy director of the ACLU. "What's happening here is a jailhouse shake-down for cash that is the criminalization of private debt."

CBS News went to court on debt collection day. They wouldn't allow our cameras in, but we watched more than 60 people swear they didn't have enough money to pay, and only one of them had an attorney representing them.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...s-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/


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You would think they wouldn't be such dick's in Kansas after winning a Superbowl.

<{ohyeah}>

What politician has a plan to solve this?

Hmmmm.

Discuss........
Don't let goobers like booger or seona hear that. Because being in medical debt is your own fault.

If you lose your house and your job, you need to be quarantined.
 
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Go down, Bill Dalton, it must be God's will,
Two brothers lyin' dead in Coffeyville
Two voices call to you from where they stood
Lay down your law books now
They're no damn good
 
"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills": County in rural Kansas is jailing people over unpaid medical debt

There is at least one issue a divided electorate can come together on this election year: A recent poll finds 90% of those surveyed agreed on the importance of making health care more affordable.

Millions of Americans remain uninsured.

As Meg Oliver reports in partnership with ProPublica, some people are even going to jail because they're squeezed by a system that's putting new demands on overburdened incomes.

Tres and Heather Biggs' son Lane was diagnosed with leukemia when he was five years old. At the same time, Heather suffered seizures from Lyme disease.

"We had so many — multiple health issues in our family at the same time, it put us in a bracket that made insurance unattainable," Heather Biggs said. "It would have made no sense. We would have had to have not eaten, not had a home."

Tres Biggs was working two jobs but they fell behind on their medical bills, then the unthinkable happened.

"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills," Tres Biggs said.

Tres Biggs went to jail for failing to appear in court for unpaid medical bills. He described it as "scary."

"I was scared to death," Tres Biggs said. "I'm a country kid — I had to strip down, get hosed and put a jumpsuit on."

Bail was $500. He said they had "maybe $50 to $100" at the time.

In rural Coffeyville, Kansas, where the poverty rate is twice the national average, attorneys like Michael Hassenplug have built successful law practices representing medical providers to collect debt owed by their neighbors.

"I'm just doing my job," Hassenplug said. "They want the money collected, and I'm trying to do my job as best I can by following the law."

That law was put in place at Hassenplug's own recommendation to the local judge. The attorney uses that law by asking the court to direct people with unpaid medical bills to appear in court every three months and state they are too poor to pay in what is called a "debtors exam."

If two hearings are missed, the judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court. Bail is set at $500.

Hassenplug said he gets "paid on what's collected." If the bail money is applied to the judgment, then he gets a portion of that, he said.

"We're sending them to jail for contempt of court for failure to appear," Hassenplug said.

In most courts, bail money is returned when defendants appear in court. But in almost every case in Coffeyville, that money goes to pay attorneys like Hassenplug and the medical debt his clients are owed.

"This raises serious constitutional concerns," said Nusrat Choudhury, the deputy director of the ACLU. "What's happening here is a jailhouse shake-down for cash that is the criminalization of private debt."

CBS News went to court on debt collection day. They wouldn't allow our cameras in, but we watched more than 60 people swear they didn't have enough money to pay, and only one of them had an attorney representing them.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...s-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/


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You would think they wouldn't be such dick's in Kansas after winning a Superbowl.

<{ohyeah}>

What politician has a plan to solve this?

Hmmmm.

Discuss........

He didn't go to jail for unpaid medical bills. He went to jail for failure to appear, a class B misdemeanor in Kansas. If the guy shows up to court, he doesn't go to jail. You should edit the title. Very misleading.
 
Ofc the Marxist in here defending people not paying their bills.

They can't pay their healthcare bills but i bet they got iPhones and rims, working class scum!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Posts thread, then posts article that says something completely different from the thread title.

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I am not sure this is going to have the desired effect. Once a lot of poor people realize health care, and rent, is free in jail, they might just try and find some ways to get in.
 
Ofc the Marxist in here defending people not paying their bills.

They can't pay their healthcare bills but i bet they got iPhones and rims, working class scum!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Donald Trump has personally not paid billions in bills. Billions. He get's elected President, yet you chide people questioning the jailing of a poor person that can't pay their medical bills.

 
Paying our own medical bills is Amurican freedom, you don't like it? Get out
 
I am not sure this is going to have the desired effect. Once a lot of poor people realize health care, and rent, is free in jail, they might just try and find some ways to get in.
This has been happening
 
The real issue in my mind is that the bail money then goes to pay the debt or the plaintiffs attorney.

This part buried deeper in the article is the real legal issue I think.

“Peter Holland, the former director of the Consumer Protection Clinic at the University of Maryland Law School, explained that this practice reveals that the jailing is not about contempt, but about collection. “Most judges will tell you, ‘I’m working for the rule of law, and if you don’t show up and you were summoned, there have to be consequences,’” he explained. “But the proof is in the pudding: If the judge is upholding the rule of law, he would give the bail money back to you when you appear in court. Instead, he is using his power to take money from you and hand it to the debt collector. It raises constitutional questions.”
I read that part and I can see that perspective. But I don't think it's that clear as a problem.

In the case of sanctions, many jurisdictions allow the court to assign monetary sanctions that can be paid either to the court or to an aggrieved party. This is a novel solution where they're using contempt of court to basically trigger a monetary sanction. They're calling it bail because of the arrest warrant issue but it's closer to a sanction. The difference being that as bail, the debtor has the choice of paying the bail (if they can afford it) or spending time in jail. If it was a sanction, they wouldn't have any choice at all -they'd have to come up with the money.

It's a tricky tightrope they're walking. Even if they get dinged for calling it "bail", they can probably just rename it "sanctions" and get the same effect.
 
Ofc the Marxist in here defending people not paying their bills.

They can't pay their healthcare bills but i bet they got iPhones and rims, working class scum!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

The average deductible for an individual plan is more than a new iPhone plus 60 inch LED TV, things people don't re-purchase each year or even every other year.
 
"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills": County in rural Kansas is jailing people over unpaid medical debt

There is at least one issue a divided electorate can come together on this election year: A recent poll finds 90% of those surveyed agreed on the importance of making health care more affordable.

Millions of Americans remain uninsured.

As Meg Oliver reports in partnership with ProPublica, some people are even going to jail because they're squeezed by a system that's putting new demands on overburdened incomes.

Tres and Heather Biggs' son Lane was diagnosed with leukemia when he was five years old. At the same time, Heather suffered seizures from Lyme disease.

"We had so many — multiple health issues in our family at the same time, it put us in a bracket that made insurance unattainable," Heather Biggs said. "It would have made no sense. We would have had to have not eaten, not had a home."

Tres Biggs was working two jobs but they fell behind on their medical bills, then the unthinkable happened.

"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills," Tres Biggs said.

Tres Biggs went to jail for failing to appear in court for unpaid medical bills. He described it as "scary."

"I was scared to death," Tres Biggs said. "I'm a country kid — I had to strip down, get hosed and put a jumpsuit on."

Bail was $500. He said they had "maybe $50 to $100" at the time.

In rural Coffeyville, Kansas, where the poverty rate is twice the national average, attorneys like Michael Hassenplug have built successful law practices representing medical providers to collect debt owed by their neighbors.

"I'm just doing my job," Hassenplug said. "They want the money collected, and I'm trying to do my job as best I can by following the law."

That law was put in place at Hassenplug's own recommendation to the local judge. The attorney uses that law by asking the court to direct people with unpaid medical bills to appear in court every three months and state they are too poor to pay in what is called a "debtors exam."

If two hearings are missed, the judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court. Bail is set at $500.

Hassenplug said he gets "paid on what's collected." If the bail money is applied to the judgment, then he gets a portion of that, he said.

"We're sending them to jail for contempt of court for failure to appear," Hassenplug said.

In most courts, bail money is returned when defendants appear in court. But in almost every case in Coffeyville, that money goes to pay attorneys like Hassenplug and the medical debt his clients are owed.

"This raises serious constitutional concerns," said Nusrat Choudhury, the deputy director of the ACLU. "What's happening here is a jailhouse shake-down for cash that is the criminalization of private debt."

CBS News went to court on debt collection day. They wouldn't allow our cameras in, but we watched more than 60 people swear they didn't have enough money to pay, and only one of them had an attorney representing them.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...s-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/


____________________________________


You would think they wouldn't be such dick's in Kansas after winning a Superbowl.

<{ohyeah}>

What politician has a plan to solve this?

Hmmmm.

Discuss........
Vermont Just made It legal to beat children with rakes
https://meyenberg.com/benefits-goat-milk
 
Pay $10 a month for the rest of their life. Problem solved.
 
I'd probably be willing to spend a few weekends in jail to clear debt.
Health care should be more expensive and available to fewer people.

They call me The Spoiler
Health care should be provided for me at the expense of the rich even though I contribute 0 to society.

I am spoiled.
 
Were they able to prove these people DID have to money to pay these bills at one point and just spent it on some nonsense?

This has been a problem in Georgia for over a decade. Losers buying new rims instead of paying legal fees and fines for traffic tickets/violations and what not. Some dude on my street got snatched up because of this back in 2015.
 
Pay $10 a month for the rest of their life. Problem solved.

This ends up falling on the tax payers after that person dies in like 2 years.

My step dad just had a lung collapse. Racked up a million bucks in medical fees. He’s got a monthly payment plan for it but he’ll be dead before 99% of it is paid.
 
Back in the day Germany had a place for people that couldn't pay medical bills. The Auschwitz
If you were sent there, you never came back.

Looks like America is becoming Nazi Germany all over again.
 
ambulance chasers 2.0
 

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