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Law Going to jail over medical bills: Kansas

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  1. VivaRevolution Banned Banned

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    "You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills": County in rural Kansas is jailing people over unpaid medical debt

    There is at least one issue a divided electorate can come together on this election year: A recent poll finds 90% of those surveyed agreed on the importance of making health care more affordable.

    Millions of Americans remain uninsured.

    As Meg Oliver reports in partnership with ProPublica, some people are even going to jail because they're squeezed by a system that's putting new demands on overburdened incomes.

    Tres and Heather Biggs' son Lane was diagnosed with leukemia when he was five years old. At the same time, Heather suffered seizures from Lyme disease.

    "We had so many — multiple health issues in our family at the same time, it put us in a bracket that made insurance unattainable," Heather Biggs said. "It would have made no sense. We would have had to have not eaten, not had a home."

    Tres Biggs was working two jobs but they fell behind on their medical bills, then the unthinkable happened.

    "You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills," Tres Biggs said.

    Tres Biggs went to jail for failing to appear in court for unpaid medical bills. He described it as "scary."

    "I was scared to death," Tres Biggs said. "I'm a country kid — I had to strip down, get hosed and put a jumpsuit on."

    Bail was $500. He said they had "maybe $50 to $100" at the time.

    In rural Coffeyville, Kansas, where the poverty rate is twice the national average, attorneys like Michael Hassenplug have built successful law practices representing medical providers to collect debt owed by their neighbors.

    "I'm just doing my job," Hassenplug said. "They want the money collected, and I'm trying to do my job as best I can by following the law."

    That law was put in place at Hassenplug's own recommendation to the local judge. The attorney uses that law by asking the court to direct people with unpaid medical bills to appear in court every three months and state they are too poor to pay in what is called a "debtors exam."

    If two hearings are missed, the judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court. Bail is set at $500.

    Hassenplug said he gets "paid on what's collected." If the bail money is applied to the judgment, then he gets a portion of that, he said.

    "We're sending them to jail for contempt of court for failure to appear," Hassenplug said.

    In most courts, bail money is returned when defendants appear in court. But in almost every case in Coffeyville, that money goes to pay attorneys like Hassenplug and the medical debt his clients are owed.

    "This raises serious constitutional concerns," said Nusrat Choudhury, the deputy director of the ACLU. "What's happening here is a jailhouse shake-down for cash that is the criminalization of private debt."

    CBS News went to court on debt collection day. They wouldn't allow our cameras in, but we watched more than 60 people swear they didn't have enough money to pay, and only one of them had an attorney representing them.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...s-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/


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    You would think they wouldn't be such dick's in Kansas after winning a Superbowl.

    <{ohyeah}>

    What politician has a plan to solve this?

    Hmmmm.

    Discuss........
     
  2. Prutfis Silver Belt

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    Murican "healthcare".. lol
     
  3. SmilinDesperado Gold Belt

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    Greatest country in the world.
     
  4. HeffDoesWant Brown Belt

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    I blame the mexicans
     
  5. Billy no mates The Pub bore .

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    Shithole country .
     
  6. Just as big a problem is people who have insurance-in-name-only. You know, something like a $4,000 deductible and $8,000 OOP maximum. Lowering the OOP maximum well below a fifth of annual median income should be a top priority for lawmakers.
     
  7. Andrew Stants Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    inb4 the state of Kansas didn’t win the Superbowl.
     
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    Health care should be more expensive and available to fewer people.

    They call me The Spoiler
     
  9. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Mixed feelings, I think it's kind of sleazy but I also think that requiring two court misses before this triggers a bail penalty isn't insane. You have a court date, show up.
     
  10. OverCoronavirus Pressure Mayberry = War Room, WR = OT. Shit. Banned

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    I agree... but for the sick poor who don't have someone to look after their mail, who have trouble doing simple things we all take for granted, whose condition makes them forgetful, who don't have an income because they're too ill to work...
     
  11. meauneau Black Belt

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    Then Americans join the army and die for their country lol. America doesn't give shit about you. Same as China with its people. China and America should be friends lol.
     
  12. SmilinDesperado Gold Belt

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    Kansas City Chiefs are actually from Missouri.
     
  13. Andrew Stants Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    That was the point. Did you read the OP?
     
  14. Renard Red Belt

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    State resources shouldn't be used to collect private debt in the first place.
     
  15. SmilinDesperado Gold Belt

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    I get this in theory, but its pretty ridiculous for the government to throw you in jail over a sham system theyre aiding.

    Telling someone with no insurance and no money to take a day off work so a court can tell them how much their spleen cost them is a complete waste of time and resources.
     
  16. SmilinDesperado Gold Belt

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    It was a bit of a long OP. I just did a quick scan. Didnt see the last line you were referencing on the first scan
     
  17. VivaRevolution Banned Banned

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    Kind of sleazy is a understatement.

    Did you catch the part where they have to come back every 90 days?
     
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    rofl
     
  19. cincymma79 Gold Belt

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    Oh my god
    Failure to show up in court or respond even
    Thats the issue
    So the op is a lie and you describing someone in a coma being jailed is ridiculous
     
  20. cincymma79 Gold Belt

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    Wtf do you think small claims court is?
     

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