GOATs at Each Weight Class QUICKFIRE

[Yojimbonufc]

Fedor
Jones
Silva
GSP
Khabib
Aldo
Cruz
DJ

Greatests in each division doesn't seem very debatable to me.

Top 1 is pretty much cemented for the time being

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

The issues I have with title Defenses being used in the Liddel VS Rampage argument is, Rampge beat Liddel prior to his title run, than KO'd him to end said title run. Not sure how it holds much wait. Denis Hallman didn't do enough outside of those two wins to be considered greater than Hughes as far as your analogy goes

There is definitely a good argument for Rampage > Chuck (I think I come down on that side as well), but regardless of the timing of the fights, Rampage is a bad matchup for Chuck in the same way that the Chute Box guys were a nightmare matchup for Rampage. Edgar got BJ twice, Bendo got Edgar twice, Pettis got Bendo twice, sometimes the styles just work out that way.

 

[kellier]

All that really matters is who is the best in each weight class today ...in 2021.

Most of these guys listed were the best. But comparing eras is automatically unfair.

Matt Hughes is a great example. Amazing accomplishments ... would be lucky to make top 15 today.

Its as silly as P4P. Make believe.

But that rationale is inherently flawed. The guys who competed in earlier eras would have more well rounded skillsets if competing today, since that's now the status quo.

Speed, athleticism, KO power, fight IQ. That's what is timeless

Its like saying Pele or Maradona wouldn't be elite footballers by todays standards.

 

[OmegaRugal]

But that rationale is inherently flawed. The guys who competed in earlier eras would have more well rounded skillsets if competing today, since that's now the status quo.

Speed, athleticism, KO power, fight IQ. That's what is timeless

Its like saying Pele or Maradona wouldn't be elite footballers by todays standards.

Which means you can't compare them since you don't know for sure since they aren't in their prime today with todays training. All you have is hypoheticals.

Hypothetically ... Adesayna was suppose to beat Jan accoring to the betting odds right?
Adeysana lost though. Thats why they fight.

Who u THINK would win doesnt matter.
Who actually wins does.

Also the leaps in MMA skills last 10-15 years is much bigger than any leap in skill in Soccor/football since the later is far more established. Not a good comparison. MMA is still in its infancy stage as a sport.

 

[kellier]

Which means you can't compare them since you don't know for sure since they aren't in their prime today with todays training. All you have is hypoheticals.

Hypothetically ... Adesayna was suppose to beat Jan accoring to the betting odds right?
Adeysana lost though. Thats why they fight.

Who u THINK would win doesnt matter.
Who actually wins does.

Also the leaps in MMA skills last 10-15 years is much bigger than any leap in skill in Soccor/football since the later is far more established. Not a good comparison. MMA is still in its infancy stage as a sport.

Oh course its hypothetical. The lack of certainty doesn't mean you can't assess or form opinions.. It just means that your answer is limited. That's part of the appeal of opinions though.. Otherwise they're called facts.

Sport science is always improving and evolving, so you'll always have marginal gains by performing in the current era with the latest improvements in training, aerobics, nutrition, equipment etc.

Its the same in athletics. Times across the board in track get lower as training evolves.. It doesn't mean that competitors now are naturally more athletic than 20 years ago.

Personally I thought the Pele/Maradona analogy was fitting since they're considered the 2 greatest ever players yet in comparison to today, its a completely different game. Football in the 90's is incomparable to football in 2020, let alone the 60's.

 

[tehMoose]

MW without Mousasi is just wrong

Back then:

Present day:

 

[Bouboumaster]

WW:

GSP
Hughes
Usman
Shields
Woodley