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Europe's experiment with "Multiculturalism" rather than adopting North America's "Melting Pot" is...


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Multiculturalism doesn't work in the USA as well.

Multiculturalism doesn't work anywhere and it never will. There needs to be assimilation on the part of Immigrants. They need to adapt to our cultures. Not us adapt to theirs.
 
Its good it didnt suceed
At least now they are just a burden on taxpayers not an economic weapon to be used against them

Both scenarios can be viewed as economic weapons. Becoming an economic burden is probably the worse of the two. That money has to come from somewhere, which ends up being taxes and debt.

According to this :
http://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/?GCOI=80140100627270

one of the primary reasons that global powers use mass migrations as a weapon is:

"coercion by punishment" strategy can be effected in two ways: the first relies on straightforward threats to overwhelm a target's capacity to accommodate a refugee or migrant influx"


The social splintering and dissolution is probably the worst in the long term though.
 
Both scenarios can be viewed as economic weapons. Becoming an economic burden is probably the worse of the two. That money has to come from somewhere, which ends up being taxes and debt.

According to this :
http://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/?GCOI=80140100627270

one of the primary reasons that global powers use mass migrations as a weapon is:

"coercion by punishment" strategy can be effected in two ways: the first relies on straightforward threats to overwhelm a target's capacity to accommodate a refugee or migrant influx"


The social splintering and dissolution is probably the worst in the long term though.
Id disagree
Sitting in their free houses bitching about the free shit they got they cost no more than the adverage waster.
On the job market however they manage to drag down wages for the lower end of taxpayers as well as ' take der jebs' leaving locals mooching of the state instead

The only upside is within a generation most of their kids will be fluent german speaking and boozing and screwing around (some secretly) like everyone else
 


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Id disagree
Sitting in their free houses bitching about the free shit they got they cost no more than the adverage waster.
On the job market however they manage to drag down wages for the lower end of taxpayers as well as ' take der jebs' leaving locals mooching of the state instead

They are unskilled, severely under educated and a large part of them are illiterate in their own language. They wouldn't drive down any wages because all they could ever get is minimum wage labour. They are undoubtedly impacting the tax payer much more by being on welfare than by working.

The only upside is within a generation most of their kids will be fluent german speaking and boozing and screwing around (some secretly) like everyone else

Oh yea? I can tell you for certain that the guy speaking in this video has been in Germany for a long time, he's perfectly fluent and even speaks colloquially in a manner that you'd only hear from a native speaker. He's at least second generation.

 
They are unskilled, severely under educated and a large part of them are illiterate in their own language. They wouldn't drive down any wages because all they could ever get is minimum wage labour. They are undoubtedly impacting the tax payer much more by being on welfare than by working.



Oh yea? I can tell you for certain that the guy speaking in this video has been in Germany for a long time, he's perfectly fluent and even speaks colloquially in a manner that you'd only hear from a native speaker. He's at least second generation.


The problem is many will work for less than min wage and theres minimal policing of it or will accept min wage with other conditions locals wouldnt
And their acceptance of that min prevents push back from those on it who want to drive it back up to a living wage.


Ul see fantics in settled populations of them inevery city though ..for every one of him theres a 1000 decent ones and 100 ones that now get drunk or eat pork like champs.
Theres a uk comedian (forgot name) whos routine talks of birmingham (uk muslim central) and how its common now to see even the face covered schoolgirls taking them off and french kissing their white english boyfriends at every busstop in the city
Entire dancefloors of them being awkwardly fingerbanged on any given friday
 
The only upside is within a generation most of their kids will be fluent german speaking and boozing and screwing around (some secretly) like everyone else

Everyone else are only concerned with this subset, however:

This morning members of the Muslim Brotherhood were also here. They want a theocracy here in Germany. I told them, "You must be grateful to be here. You cannot impose your ideology on Germans." Then they asked me, "Are you a Muslim?" I said "yes." Then they said, "The earth belongs to God. And Germany belongs to Allah. And Allah gave us Germany. And we will apply God's laws here!" That is not the Islam that I came to know as a tolerant religion in Damascus.

Syrians do not exist as an overall category. My experience this morning was that there are Syrians that are good. They are grateful to be here. They will get an education and becomesuccessful. But Islamists also come here. They want to spread ideas that our constitution does not allow.

 
German media: Merkel's party suffers loss in home state over migrant policy
Angela Waters, Special for USA TODAY
September 4, 2016

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SCHWERIN, Germany — An anti-immigration party made a strong showing at the expense of Chancellor Angela Merkel's party in her home district Sunday, an apparent repudiation of her open-door policy for migrants, according to German media.

With results nearly complete, German broadcaster ARD projected that the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) came in second with 21% of the vote, ahead of Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) at 19%, the party's worst showing since German reunification a quarter-century ago.

The projection showed the Social Democrats (SPD) would come in first with just over 30% of the vote.

Merkel's home base of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania is currently governed by a coalition of Social Democrats and Christian Democrats, the same partnership that runs the federal government.

Alternative for Germany had made as its main campaign issue Merkel's decision to allow more than 1 million war refugees and migrants from the Middle East, Africa and Asia to settle in Germany in the past year.

Pre-election polls showed voters are worried about the influx, especially following terror attacks linked to migrants this summer and several instances of mass sexual assaults at public gatherings on New Year's Eve that police blamed on recent arrivals.

National Alternative for Germany leader Frauke Petry celebrated “a blow to Angela Merkel.” Local AfD leader Leif-Erik Holm told supporters: “Perhaps this is the beginning of the end of Angela Merkel’s chancellorship today.”

Peter Tauber, the Christian Democrats’ general secretary, acknowledged the impact of the refugee issue. "This result, and the strong performance of AfD, is bitter for ... everyone in our party,” he said.

"I voted for the AfD because it can't go on like this anymore with the growing number of refugees," Anne Schuster, 32, said after she voted in Schwerin, the state's capital. "The current government promises so much but nothing gets done."

Anita Maya, 27, a teacher in the state capital here, said she does not agree with the AfD's anti-immigration stance, "but I see why people here like them: They have clear answers. It's funny that so many people feel so strongly about the refugee crisis, because I don't think our day-to-day lives have really been changed by it here."

Some who traditionally shun the CDU said they support Merkel's policy toward the refugees. "I don’t like the CDU, but I think that it’s right what Angela Merkel is doing with the refugees," said Robert Ackerman, 29, a teacher here. "It's our responsibility to help and she is doing good work."

Incumbent state leader Erwin Sellering of the Social Democratic Party ran on a platform that focused on sustaining the region's good economy.

"The most important thing is jobs," he said Sunday. "Unemployment has significantly decreased. My goal is to further strengthen our economy in the next year so that new jobs are created and maintained."

CDU candidate and Mecklenburg-Pomerania Interior Minister Lorenz Caffier took a harder stance on immigration to differentiate himself from Merkel. He recently called for a ban on burquas, the full-body covering worn by some Muslim women. There currently are no such restrictions in Germany.

“Total veiling should be forbidden throughout Germany,” Caffier told Bild newspaper. “It is a roadblock for integration and is unconstitutional."

The vote came as Merkel's party is losing favor with voters. Only 45% of Germans backed the chancellor, according to a recent poll by German broadcaster ARD.

"Germany needs to get tougher on rape. It's horrible that the Afghani refugees could do that to a girl and still walk up to her on the street," Wolfram Burow, 57, who works in property management, said about a suspect on trial for rape in Cologne's mass New Year's Eve attacks.

"Angela Merkel’s 'we can manage it' policy is nonsense," he added. "She’s not doing anything except creating chaos for us to deal with. I voted for the SPD to see if they could do something to stop it."

Joerg Forbrig of the think tank German Marshall Fund in Berlin, said that even though Merkel is from East Germany, it's not enough of a connection to overcome the discontent of voters here.

“We see differences especially in political culture between the east and west. This is something the AfD is capitalizing on,” Forbrig said. “It does not have so much to do with economic deprivation because Mecklenburg-Pomerania has been successful in the last couple of years. It has to do with an incomplete transformation of society and political culture in East Germany.”

Despite more than 25 years of reunification, there is still a cultural divide between east and west Germans. Anti-immigrant sentiment is stronger in the east, where a majority of attacks on refugee homes have occurred.

Even in the west, Merkel and her party face trouble. And there is a growing rift between the CDU and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), whose leader, Horst Seehofer, has denounced the chancellor's immigrant policy for “breaking Europe.”

Analyst Forbrig said Merkel is running out of time to mend her image before national elections in the fall of 2017.

“If she is to fully recover before the elections, this recovery has to start now, but things are not going well for her,” Forbrig said. “Since the beginning of the year, the damage that the refugee flows have done to her political position has been recovered, but then came the series of attacks committed by mostly people with migrant backgrounds, which set her back.”

There are five more state parliamentary elections coming up before the federal elections, including Berlin later this month.

Forbrig sees large gains ahead for the AfD in Berlin, where it is likely to siphon votes from the Left Party, which is traditionally strong in the German capital.

“We are looking at a pretty turbulent year till the elections,” Forbrig said. “No one can really make a prediction at this stage. Merkel herself just said that she will not declare her candidacy until early next year. She is clearly trying to buy time.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-vote-german-chancellors-home-state/89863102/
 
German anti-immigrant party beats Merkel in her home district
Sep 4, 2016

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People react to first exit polls during the Mecklenburg-Vorpommern state election at the anti-immigrant Alternative for Deutschland (AfD) post election venue in Schwerin, Germany, September 4, 2016.

BERLIN (Reuters) - German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats were beaten into third place by the anti-immigrant and anti-Islam Alternative for Germany (AfD) party in a north-eastern state election on Sunday, TV exit polls showed.

In a stinging defeat for Merkel in her home district that could weaken her chances of a fourth term in next year's federal elections, the upstart AfD took 21.9 percent of the vote behind the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) in their first election in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern by campaigning hard against the chancellor's policies on refugees, according to a projection by ARD TV at 1815 GMT.

"This isn't pretty for us," said Michael Grosse-Broemer, one of Merkel's top deputies in parliament in Berlin in a ZDF TV interview. "Those who voted for the AfD were sending a message of protest."

Merkel's approval rating has plunged to a five-year low of 45 percent, down from 67 percent a year ago, due to spreading disenchantment with her open-door policies on refugees.

According to a Der Spiegel magazine report, Merkel wanted to announce her intention of running for a fourth term this year but put that on hold due to resistance from her Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union. The arch-conservative CSU has demanded that Merkel put limits on the numbers of refugees.

"This was a dark day for Merkel," Thomas Jaeger, a political scientist at Cologne University, told Reuters. "Everyone knows that she lost this election. Her district in parliament is there, she campaigned there, and refugees are her issue."

The election took place exactly a year after Merkel's decision to open Germany's borders to hundreds of thousands of refugees and the discontent in the state was palpable.

"This is a slap in the face for Merkel -- not only in Berlin but also in her home state," said Frauke Petry, co-leader of the AfD. "The voters made a clear statement against Merkel's disastrous immigration policies. This put her in her place."

The AfD's win was cheered by the leader of France's far-right National Front party, Marine Le Pen, who posted on Twitter: "What was impossible yesterday has become possible: the patriots of AfD sweep up the party of Ms Merkel. All my congratulations!”

The SPD, which has ruled the rural state on the Baltic coast with the CDU as junior coalition partners since 2006, won 30.2 percent of the vote, down from 35.6 percent in the last election in 2011. The CDU won 19 percent, down from 23 percent in 2011, and its worst result ever in the state, ARD TV said.

The Left Party won 12.7 percent, down from 18.4 percent five years ago, while the Greens won 4.9 percent, down from 8.7 percent, and fell out of the assembly. The far-right NPD was also knocked out of the state legislature, falling below the 5 percent threshold for the first time since 2006.

Despite losing support, the SPD (26 seats) and the CDU (16) won enough seats to be able to continue their coalition in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, with the AfD as the second-largest bloc in the 71-seat state assembly with 18 seats. The SPD, which could also form a coalition with the Left Party, said it was leaving its options open.

Voters already punished Merkel in three state elections in March, voting in droves for the AfD and rejecting Merkel's Christian Democrats.

Founded in 2013, the AfD now has won seats in nine of the 16 state assemblies across the country. However, it has no chance of governing in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern since the other parties have said they would not form a coalition with the party.

The AfD is also making gains nationwide, a new poll showed on Sunday. If the national election were held next week, the AfD would win 12 percent of the vote, making it the third-largest party in Germany, according to a poll conducted by the Emnid institute for the Bild newspaper and published on Sunday.

Merkel had made a last-minute campaign appearance on Saturday in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, warning against the politics of "angst" offered by AfD with its virulent anti-refugee stance.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/reuters...ty-beats-merkel-in-her-home-district/42420900
 
If you wanted assimilation, Muslims are not the group to take in. Especially not to that extent.

She dun goofed

Come on. You mean a group of people who makes their women wear ski masks in public is extreme?

No way! You are racist! Don't be racism
 
SPD won, they're far more to the left than CDU.
 
CSU comes under fire for 'catalogue of inhumanity' over refugee policy
Sept 9, 2016

A list of the CSU's demands regarding Germany's refugee policy has been leaked to the media, prompting a backlash of criticism. Included are a proposed burqa ban and an upper limit on refugees.

The sister party to German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) is due to meet behind closed doors in Schwarzenfeld on Friday to discuss several debt instruments, including the refugee and immigration policy.

CSU leader and Bavarian Premier Horst Seehofer wants the CSU to use the meeting to position the CSU's confrontations with Merkel and the governing grand coalition between the Union and the Social Democrats (SPD).

Seehofer has been a long-time vocal critic of Merkel's open-door policy since the chancellor allowed some 1 million refugees to cross Germany's borders last year.

Upper limit on refugees

Top of the CSU's agenda is a drastic tightening of the refugee and immigration policy which has drawn widespread criticism from across Germany's political parties.

"Everyone has the right to come to us if they're really a refugee and come from an unsafe region," CDU Parliamentary Group Vice Michael Fuchs told German television channel "n-tv."


CSU leader and Bavarian Premier Horst Seehofer with German Chancellor and CDU leader Angela Merkel


Referring to the one million migrants who arrived in Germany in 2015, the CSU insists, however, that the "situation which occurred last year" cannot be repeated. The party is, therefore, demanding an upper limit of 200,000 refugees per year.

"Determining someone's right to remain in Germany must take place at the transit zones on the border," the CSU urges.

"Those who have no right to stay will be deported directly from the transit zone," the paper says, adding that in future, "priority" should be given to immigrants "from our Western Christian culture."

Burqa ban

Also included in the catalog of demands is a proposed ban on wearing the burqa and niqab in public. "The burqa is "a uniform of Islamism," the CSU says, adding that those who are "unwilling to stop wearing the burqa or niqab should find themselves another country."

The CSU also suggests that headscarves should be banned in public services and judiciary.

Green Party Chairwoman Simone Peter slammed the CSU's proposals, saying that Seehofer "clearly wants to make the CSU the Bavarian sister party to the [right-wing populist Alternative for Germany] AfD."

The proposals are "pure populist propaganda against everything foreign," she said, adding that the CSU's paper leaves the concept of an open society and the values of Germany's Basic Law behind.

Bavaria's SPD General Secretary Natascha Kohnen requested the CSU to leave the Germany government for what she described in the "Münchner Merkur" on Friday as a "catalog of inhumanity."

'Germany must remain Germany'

The CSU also reiterates in the document the party's determination to anchor the "dominant culture" in the Bavarian Constitution - in other terms, the opposite of multiculturalism.

"Germany must remain Germany," the CSU demands, adding that "we are not to be guided by immigrants, but vice versa."

"We are against the fact that our cosmopolitan country is changed by immigration or refugee influxes," the paper says.

Quick return to home country

Following the end of a crisis in a refugee's home country, the CSU also proposes that asylum seekers should return to their respective countries as quickly as possible.

The party argues that the refugees would be needed in their homelands to help rebuild the country.

"It would be immoral, to deprive these countries of labor," the CSU says.

The party is in favor, however, of maintaining the refugee agreement between the European Union (EU) and Turkey, as the deal has helped to reduce the influx of refugees to Europe and Germany. The CSU is against visa liberalization for Turkish citizens, however.

Merkel scrutinized after state election

The CSU's meeting on Friday comes just days after Merkel herself said in parliament that "Germany will remain Germany."

The chancellor came under fire at the beginning of the week after the CDU in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania suffered a stinging backlash as the right-wing populist AfD party entered its ninth regional assembly since 2013.

Merkel told reporters on the sidelines of the G20 summit in China that the outcome of the election "obviously had something to do with the refugee question."

"But I nevertheless believe the decisions made were right and we have to continue to work on them."

On Saturday, the CSU executive board will also discuss the draft of a new CSU policy program. This should then be finalized early in November in Munich.
http://www.dw.com/en/csu-comes-under-fire-for-catalogue-of-inhumanity-over-refugee-policy/a-19538184
 
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CSU comes under fire for 'catalogue of inhumanity' over refugee policy
A list of the CSU's demands regarding Germany's refugee policy has been leaked to the media, prompting a backlash of criticism. Included are a proposed burqa ban and an upper limit on refugees.


The sister party to German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) is due to meet behind closed doors in Schwarzenfeld on Friday to discuss several debt instruments, including the refugee and immigration policy.

CSU leader and Bavarian Premier Horst Seehofer wants the CSU to use the meeting to position the CSU's confrontations with Merkel and the governing grand coalition between the Union and the Social Democrats (SPD).

Seehofer has been a long-time vocal critic of Merkel's open-door policy since the chancellor allowed some 1 million refugees to cross Germany's borders last year.

Upper limit on refugees

Top of the CSU's agenda is a drastic tightening of the refugee and immigration policy which has drawn widespread criticism from across Germany's political parties.

"Everyone has the right to come to us if they're really a refugee and come from an unsafe region," CDU Parliamentary Group Vice Michael Fuchs told German television channel "n-tv."


CSU leader and Bavarian Premier Horst Seehofer with German Chancellor and CDU leader Angela Merkel


Referring to the one million migrants who arrived in Germany in 2015, the CSU insists, however, that the "situation which occurred last year" cannot be repeated. The party is, therefore, demanding an upper limit of 200,000 refugees per year.

"Determining someone's right to remain in Germany must take place at the transit zones on the border," the CSU urges.

"Those who have no right to stay will be deported directly from the transit zone," the paper says, adding that in future, "priority" should be given to immigrants "from our Western Christian culture."

Burqa ban

Also included in the catalog of demands is a proposed ban on wearing the burqa and niqab in public. "The burqa is "a uniform of Islamism," the CSU says, adding that those who are "unwilling to stop wearing the burqa or niqab should find themselves another country."

The CSU also suggests that headscarves should be banned in public services and judiciary.

Green Party Chairwoman Simone Peter slammed the CSU's proposals, saying that Seehofer "clearly wants to make the CSU the Bavarian sister party to the [right-wing populist Alternative for Germany] AfD."

The proposals are "pure populist propaganda against everything foreign," she said, adding that the CSU's paper leaves the concept of an open society and the values of Germany's Basic Law behind.

Bavaria's SPD General Secretary Natascha Kohnen requested the CSU to leave the Germany government for what she described in the "Münchner Merkur" on Friday as a "catalog of inhumanity."

'Germany must remain Germany'

The CSU also reiterates in the document the party's determination to anchor the "dominant culture" in the Bavarian Constitution - in other terms, the opposite of multiculturalism.

"Germany must remain Germany," the CSU demands, adding that "we are not to be guided by immigrants, but vice versa."

"We are against the fact that our cosmopolitan country is changed by immigration or refugee influxes," the paper says.

Quick return to home country

Following the end of a crisis in a refugee's home country, the CSU also proposes that asylum seekers should return to their respective countries as quickly as possible.

The party argues that the refugees would be needed in their homelands to help rebuild the country.

"It would be immoral, to deprive these countries of labor," the CSU says.

The party is in favor, however, of maintaining the refugee agreement between the European Union (EU) and Turkey, as the deal has helped to reduce the influx of refugees to Europe and Germany. The CSU is against visa liberalization for Turkish citizens, however.

Merkel scrutinized after state election

The CSU's meeting on Friday comes just days after Merkel herself said in parliament that "Germany will remain Germany."

The chancellor came under fire at the beginning of the week after the CDU in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania suffered a stinging backlash as the right-wing populist AfD party entered its ninth regional assembly since 2013.

Merkel told reporters on the sidelines of the G20 summit in China that the outcome of the election "obviously had something to do with the refugee question."

"But I nevertheless believe the decisions made were right and we have to continue to work on them."

On Saturday, the CSU executive board will also discuss the draft of a new CSU policy program. This should then be finalized early in November in Munich.

http://www.dw.com/en/csu-comes-under-fire-for-catalogue-of-inhumanity-over-refugee-policy/a-19538184

If I were the border patrol I would say, "the woman is allowed to enter and is coming with me in order to be educated in my country's ways, the rest of you must go back to your home lands"

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Germany bans Islamist 'True Religion' group, raiding 190 mosques, flats, and offices
By Caroline Copley and Madeline Chambers| BERLIN
Nov 15, 2016​

Police launched dawn raids across Germany on Tuesday on about 190 mosques, flats and offices linked to an Islamist group after the government banned the organization, accusing it of radicalising youngsters.

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said the DWR 'True Religion' group had persuaded about 140 people to join militants in Iraq and Syria.

DWR, also known as "READ!" made no reference to the raids on its website and did not immediately respond to a request for comment. De Maiziere said it had several hundred members.

Pictures showed masked police officers carrying away computers and files from properties.

Chancellor Angela Merkel has come under pressure to harden her line on security after several attacks claimed by Islamic State across Europe, including a bombing and a knifing in Germany that wounded some 20 people in July. She is also under fire for letting in about 900,000 migrants, mostly Muslims, last year.

Some Syrians in Germany say many mosques here are more conservative than those at home, and that they are confronted by Muslims who insist on a literal interpretation of the Koran.

Last month, a Syrian committed suicide in prison after he was arrested on suspicion of planning to bomb an airport. His brother and friends have said he was "brainwashed" by ultra-conservatives imams in Berlin.

The domestic intelligence agency said in June about 8,900 ultra-conservative Islamists known as Salafists were in Germany.

De Maiziere said Tuesday's raids in 10 German states were the biggest crackdown on any group since the government shut down a movement known as Kalifatstaat (Caliphate State) in 2001, accusing it of extremist activities.

He said DWR had distributed Korans and other religious material especially to young people, but this was not the reason for the ban.

"Today's ban is rather directed against the abuse of religion by people propagating extremist ideologies and supporting terrorist organizations under the pretext of Islam."

DWR members have tried to hand out material in German town centers to passers-by, often holding banners or wearing garments with the word "READ!" emblazoned in gold. The ban means they are now prohibited from running such campaigns.

Fears about the number of migrants entering the country have boosted support for Alternative for Germany (AfD), a populist party that says Islam is incompatible with the constitution and has siphoned off support from Merkel's conservatives.

A spokeswoman for the interior ministry said there was no indication that DWR was planning attacks itself. Overall, some 820 people have left Germany for war zones in Syria and Iraq, and officials fear they may pose a security threat on their return.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13A0MY


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If I were the border patrol I would say, "the woman is allowed to enter and is coming with me in order to be educated in my country's ways, the rest of you must go back to your home lands"

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Is that woman A pakistani?
 
Well done to Germany for cracking down on it quick smart...now if only the British government could've done the same years ago, maybe we wouldn't have Islamist schools and mosques that are known breeding grounds for future extremists, hence the thousands who leave to go and fight for ISIS from Britain.
 
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