International German papers reporting: German Intelligence concluded Covid leaked from lab

[Lycandroid]

Funny how you ignore the evidence that doesn't fit with your confirmation bias and, like the other blind mice ITT, opt for ad hominem* instead.


*I saved you the trouble of googling that, you can just click on it.

only the weakest of men need to wait for the government to tell them what to think when the truth is staring them in the face

 

[Andy Capp]

only the weakest of men need to wait for the government to tell them what to think when the truth is staring them in the face

What's weaker than having nothing to respond with but ad hominem?

 

[UberHere]

The facts don't care about your fears.

And you don’t care about facts.

 

[UberHere]

100% agreed

The left wing response to Covid was the main driver in me going all in for Trump this year. Censuring legit scientific researchers and medical professionals that disagreed with their assessments and plans was and still is unforgivable

 

[irish_thug]

Oh, that CT again?

 

[Kassitus]

Anyone with an iq over 80 understood this years ago.

I actually think dumb people were among the first to understand it. The ones who really lagged and bought into the bat soup theory seemed to be the 110 iq midwits who think they have all the answers but are not smart enough to properly analyze the probabilities involved.

 

[Andy Capp]

I actually think dumb people were among the first to understand it. The ones who really lagged and bought into the bat soup theory seemed to be the 110 iq midwits who think they have all the answers but are not smart enough to properly analyze the probabilities involved.

lol

Check out the replies to my posts ITT. Confirmation bias is a helluva drug.

 

[Lycandroid]

What's weaker than having nothing to respond with but ad hominem?

You are annoying little shit and need to be put in your place. Don't cry about ad hominem attacks when you play that game yourself more than anyone and half of your posts are just laugh emojis, everytime you are backed into a corner you run away leaving behind a laugh react along with your piss filled diaper.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Oh, that CT again?

I enjoy this post

 

[Ruke Doufus]

Breaking news:

Die Zeit and Sueddeutscher Zeitung - 2 of Gemany's biggest newspapers, both mainstream, are reporting right now that BND (Germany's equivalent of the CIA) concluded in 2020 that Covid-19 escaped from the Wuhan lab.

They concluded the virus was a result of gain-of-function experiments.

After Trump came into office the CIA released a report saying Covid likely originated in the lab (but has low confidence on the conclusion). The report was "completed at the behest of the Biden admin and former CIA director William Burns".

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https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/german-spy-agency-concluded-covid-virus-likely-leaked-lab-papers-say-2025-03-12/

FRANKFURT, March 12 (Reuters) - Germany's foreign intelligence service in 2020 put at 80%-90% the likelihood that the coronavirus behind the COVID-19 pandemic was accidentally released from China's Wuhan Institute of Virology, two German newspapers reported on Wednesday.

According to a joint report by publications Die Zeit and Sueddeutscher Zeitung, Germany's spying agency BND had indications that the institute had conducted gain-of-function experiments, whereby viruses are modified to become more transmissible to humans for research purposes.

It also had indications that numerous violations of safety regulations had occurred at the lab, the papers said.
The spy agency assessment's was based on an unspecified intelligence operation code-named "Saaremaa" as well as on publicly-available data. It had been commissioned by the office of Germany's chancellor at the time, Angela Merkel, but never published, the report said.

BND declined to comment. When asked about the report in a press conference, outgoing chancellor Olaf Scholz also declined to comment on Wednesday.

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The CIA believes COVID most likely originated from a lab but has low confidence in its own finding

The CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory.

apnews.com

WASHINGTON (AP) — The CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory, according to an assessment that points the finger at China even while acknowledging that the spy agency has “low confidence” in its own conclusion.

The finding is not the result of any new intelligence, and the report released Saturday was completed at the behest of the Biden administration and former CIA Director William Burns. It was declassified and released Saturday on the orders of President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the agency, John Ratcliffe, who was sworn in Thursday as director.

The nuanced finding suggests the agency believes the totality of evidence makes a lab origin more likely than a natural origin. But the agency’s assessment assigns a low degree of confidence to this conclusion, suggesting the evidence is deficient, inconclusive or contradictory.


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I know Fauci got a pardon but I think Trump should still find a way to haul him and Peter Daszak before congress. Or at the very least use the intelligence resources of the US to investigate them. Even if they can't be arrested, it serves society to find out what these two know.

Great idea but last time fraudci was grilled in Congress he just lied with impunity about the gain of function research and absolutely nothing happens. It's all a joke, there's no accountability nor will there ever be for anything it seems.

Elaborate theater so the plebs can feel like something is being done but it's not.

 

[Andy Capp]

You are annoying little shit and need to be put in your place. Don't cry about ad hominem attacks when you play that game yourself more than anyone and half of your posts are just laugh emojis, everytime you are backed into a corner you run away leaving behind a laugh react along with your piss filled diaper.

Oh yes, I feel so put in my place by you. Forgive me, father, for I have sinned...



Now, got anything to add that isn't an ad hominem attack on people who point out how obtuse you are?

 

[Siver!]

The left wing response to Covid was the main driver in me going all in for Trump this year. Censuring legit scientific researchers and medical professionals that disagreed with their assessments and plans was and still is unforgivable

Reminds me of shutting down legit research on mice because "trannies".

Who do you support now?

 

[UberHere]

Reminds me of shutting down legit research on mice because "trannies".

Who do you support now?

Citation needed.

It’s a retarded comparison anyway. A global pandemic involving novel virus that affected everyone on earth vs tranny research, fucking lol

 

[Andy Capp]

The left wing response to Covid was the main driver in me going all in for Trump this year. Censuring legit scientific researchers and medical professionals that disagreed with their assessments and plans was and still is unforgivable

The right wing response led to twice as many deaths (per capita) in the US as in Canada. Goddamn, you lot never get tired of showing the rest of us how consumed by confirmation bias you are, do you?

 

[UberHere]

The right wing response led to twice as many deaths (per capita) in the US than in Canada. Goddamn, you lot never get tired of showing the rest of us how consumed by confirmation bias you are, do you?

This has been debunked ad nauseom…. Google relationship between population density and viral mortality

Jesus Christ

 

[Siver!]

Citation needed.

It’s a retarded comparison anyway. A global pandemic involving novel virus that affected everyone on earth vs tranny research, fucking lol

"Censuring legit scientific researchers and medical professionals that disagreed with their assessments and plans was and still is unforgivable"

Turns out you don't stand by this sentiment after all.

 

[UberHere]

"Censuring legit scientific researchers and medical professionals that disagreed with their assessments and plans was and still is unforgivable"

Turns out you don't stand by this sentiment after all.

Still waiting for that citation. You’ve given me nothing to respond to but your feelings and I don’t give a shit about your feelings.

 

[HereticBD]

The right wing response led to twice as many deaths (per capita) in the US as in Canada.

Ah' yes, that "right wing response" in places like New York, where they condemned thousands of seniors to their death from incompetence.

Besides, your "solution" to the whole thing, was for sprawling metropolises with tens of millions of people to just follow PEI's example. Population: A busy day at an American Theme Park.

Goddamn, you lot never get tired of showing the rest of us how consumed by confirmation bias you are, do you?

He said, while still arguing that the Wuhan Coronavirus did not leak from a Coronavirus lab in Wuhan...

PS: More people died under Biden than Trump. The US has 50 states run by both right and left wing governments. Few got a passing grade, if any...much like the rest of the world.

 

[Scerpi]

Everyone with a couple of functioning brain cells knew this from the beginning. The media, and a lot of government institutions, lost a ton of credibility due to the blatant cover-up. Not just in the U.S. but world-wide.

They knew, yet they kept bullshitting us. I'm not even sure why because at the end of the day, it's not like there's been any sort of a backlash towards any of the parties involved. People just kind of accepted it and moved on.

And there you go



And Democrats will never admit to their fuck awful decisions based on lies funded by USAID... that ruined people's lives, mental health and the economy.

Just one Democrat leader should stand up and say... "We fucked up..."

But it'll never happen

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I actually think dumb people were among the first to understand it. The ones who really lagged and bought into the bat soup theory seemed to be the 110 iq midwits who think they have all the answers but are not smart enough to properly analyze the probabilities involved.

well the midwits you mention always collapse to authority so unless someone tell them what to think they are kinda lost. it was pretty visible at first, they were the "let's wait and see" meaning, somebody in authority didn't tell me yet what to think.
so you may be right.