Gerald McClellan "G-Man" update 2025

i saw this the other day, seems he still remembers bits and bobs which i dont know if better or worse for him

for pure violence, i'm not sure i have seen a fight live that brought it as much as that, McClellan was a terrible person though, and as an owner of 7 dogs, and looking at someone who used to tape dogs mouths shut so he could train his dogs to fight

i have absolutely no fucking sympathy at all for him
 
i saw this the other day, seems he still remembers bits and bobs which i dont know if better or worse for him

for pure violence, i'm not sure i have seen a fight live that brought it as much as that, McClellan was a terrible person though, and as an owner of 7 dogs, and looking at someone who used to tape dogs mouths shut so he could train his dogs to fight

i have absolutely no fucking sympathy at all for him
Dog fighting was/is culturally acceptable in segments of the black American urban community, while the cruelty is obviously terrible and unacceptable, I wouldn’t be overly judgmental and say you have “zero” sympathy him, that’s very harsh given the context of McClellan’s upbringing. The relationship most westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world, mistreating dogs to most westerners is akin to mistreating a human, even worse perhaps. But that’s not how the majority of the world’s population relate to dogs.
 
Dog fighting was/is culturally acceptable in segments of the black American urban community, the cruelty is obviously terrible but I wouldn’t be overly judgmental and say you have “zero” sympathy, that’s harsh. The relationship westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world, mistreating dogs to most westerners is akin to mistreating a human, even worse perhaps. But that’s not how the majority of the world’s population relate to dogs.


Humans have been friends with dogs for THOUSANDS of years. There's thousands of years old graves they have found with humans and their dog buried together clearly signifying a close bond between human and dog.

Their "culture" is sickening.
 
Dog fighting was/is culturally acceptable in segments of the black American urban community, while the cruelty is obviously terrible and unacceptable, I wouldn’t be overly judgmental and say you have “zero” sympathy him, that’s very harsh given the context of McClellan’s upbringing. The relationship most westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world, mistreating dogs to most westerners is akin to mistreating a human, even worse perhaps. But that’s not how the majority of the world’s population relate to dogs.
cry me a river

a guy who used to breed fighting dogs and train his dogs by taping defenceless dogs mouths shut...yeah, that guy can be what ever colour he wants and be from any region of the world he likes, utter fucking scum of the earth

i cant even really be honest on here what i think about his antics and how he lives, because of people like you who are making excuses for his behaviour

also, documented story about when he drove at and killed flamingos in a shopping mall, i dont own any flamingos and have no real connection to them, but it just stinks of a shitty human being...at least he cant hurt animals anymore
 
Humans have been friends with dogs for THOUSANDS of years. There's thousands of years old graves they have found with humans and their dog buried together clearly signifying a close bond between human and dog.

Their "culture" is sickening.
When did I say *some* humans haven’t been friends with dogs for thousands of years? Different cultures relate to dogs differently, that doesn’t excuse mistreating them but it does color whether you interpret their behavior as irredeemable or not.
 
cry me a river

a guy who used to breed fighting dogs and train his dogs by taping defenceless dogs mouths shut...yeah, that guy can be what ever colour he wants and be from any region of the world he likes, utter fucking scum of the earth

i cant even really be honest on here what i think about his antics and how he lives, because of people like you who are making excuses for his behaviour

also, documented story about when he drove at and killed flamingos in a shopping mall, i dont own any flamingos and have no real connection to them, but it just stinks of a shitty human being...at least he cant hurt animals anymore
When did I make an excuse for his behavior? I literally said the behavior was unacceptable.
 
When did I say *some* humans haven’t been friends with dogs for thousands of years? Different cultures relate to dogs differently, that doesn’t excuse mistreating them but it does color whether you interpret their behavior as irredeemable or not.

You tried to play it off like "Oh, it's mostly Europeans that have that kind of friendship with dogs".
 
You tried to play it off like "Oh, it's mostly Europeans that have that kind of friendship with dogs".
I didn’t play it off like anything, you simply were triggered and decided to read it that way.
 
I didn’t play it off like anything, you simply were triggered and decided to read it that way.

"The relationship most westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world,"


It's UNCOMMON?

There's evidence of extremely close bonds between humans and dogs dating back THOUSANDS of years. But it's actually uncommon....

It sounds more like you grew up thinking dog fighting is ok, either was involved with it, or watched it, or had relatives that did it..
 
"The relationship most westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world,"


It's UNCOMMON?

There's evidence of extremely close bonds between humans and dogs dating back THOUSANDS of years. But it's actually uncommon....

It sounds more like you grew up thinking dog fighting is ok, either was involved with it, or watched it, or had relatives that did it..
You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said man’s relationship with dogs was uncommon in world history, I said it was uncommon in the world. Meaning the majority of the world does not relate to dogs in the way westerners do, that’s a FACT. Your attempt at making western culture and experience w/ domesticated dogs normative to the rest of the world is simply wrong. Your moral grand standing and emotion based responses have completely blinded you to the point i was making, my original point was about whether McClellan is irredeemable and if he deserves any sympathy, it was NOT about whether what he did was wrong. I already said multiple times what he did was unacceptable and wrong. Grow up and stop being overly emotional about this, you’re only proving my point.
 
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You really need to work on your reading comprehension. I never said man’s relationship with dogs was uncommon in world history, I said it was uncommon in the world. Meaning the majority of the world does not relate to dogs in the way westerners do, that’s a FACT. Your attempt at making western culture and experience w/ domesticated dogs normative to the rest of the world is simply wrong. Your moral grand standing and emotion based responses have completely blinded you to the point i was making, my original point was about whether McClellan is irredeemable and if he deserves any sympathy, it was NOT about whether what he did was wrong. I already said multiple times what he did was unacceptable and wrong. Grow up and stop being overly emotional about this, you’re only
Is America not considered the west?

It's not like McClellan was brought up in China
 
Is America not considered the west?

It's not like McClellan was brought up in China
The west isn’t a monolithic culture, segments of the black urban community (and perhaps other communities) have attitudes towards dogs that are closer with other parts of the world. This doesn’t excuse the mistreatment of dogs but it makes it easier to understand how other people might view dog fighting as not being on the same moral plane as mistreating or killing humans. I suggest you look into Mike Vick’s life and see how he’s transformed himself after his conviction, even long after he’s served his time and done his probation he’s STILL making amends for what he did and is by all accounts a totally changed man. He was redeemable, and I don’t see a reason why McClellan couldn’t have been redeemable had it not been for his injury.
 
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Dog fighting was/is culturally acceptable in segments of the black American urban community, while the cruelty is obviously terrible and unacceptable, I wouldn’t be overly judgmental and say you have “zero” sympathy him, that’s very harsh given the context of McClellan’s upbringing. The relationship most westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world, mistreating dogs to most westerners is akin to mistreating a human, even worse perhaps. But that’s not how the majority of the world’s population relate to dogs.

Is America not considered the west?

It's not like McClellan was brought up in China
It has more ties to southern white American culture. It's does marginally make It's way to impoverished Urban areas. However, as an organized illicit sub culture it's ran by the south & rural White Americans at a much larger scale.

Just inner city & or African American cases of famous athletes are going to get sensationalized a lot more. Like G-Man & Michael Vick.

Many people are raised to where a "dog must earn its keep" so it's not looked at as a pet like the suburban American culture.

There are many Americans who come from "working dog" cultures which is totally opposite take of suburban pet owning culture.
 
It has more ties to southern white American culture. It's does marginally make It's way to impoverished Urban areas. However, as an organized illicit sub culture it's ran by the south & rural White Americans at a much larger scale.

Just inner city & or African American cases of famous athletes are going to get sensationalized a lot more. Like G-Man & Michael Vick.

Many people are raised to where a "dog must earn its keep" so it's not looked at as a pet like the suburban American culture.

There are many Americans who come from "working dog" cultures which is totally opposite take of suburban pet owning culture.
I have owned working dogs in the past, and i have no issue with dogs working at all, but taping a dogs mouth shut so it cant defend itself is not an African American problem, or any other human problem, its a cunt problem
 
I have owned working dogs in the past, and i have no issue with dogs working at all, but taping a dogs mouth shut so it cant defend itself is not an African American problem, or any other human problem, its a cunt problem
Nobody is denying that.
"Bait dogs" are 100% part of that branch of working dog culture.

Also, I think we need to consider the source too. Thats one thing I think we haven't fully addressed in all of the threads for years & years on this.
The guy in the documentary who made that claim was pretty outlandish, over the top, exaggerated a ton, & had an axe to grind.
He said other things that were also pretty outlandish.

It's the same guy who said he had Nigel Benn's blood from like a boxing boot and had it tested & it tested positive for PEDs.
Does that said like somebody telling the truth?
 
"The relationship most westerners (usually people of European descent) have with dogs is uncommon and unique in the world,"


It's UNCOMMON?

There's evidence of extremely close bonds between humans and dogs dating back THOUSANDS of years. But it's actually uncommon....

It sounds more like you grew up thinking dog fighting is ok, either was involved with it, or watched it, or had relatives that did it..
Huh? People starving for food & fighting for survival didn't have the concept of pets. The domestication of wolves to dogs was based on a symbiotic relationship. Not a Disney movie. Man needed protection and help hunting, wolves didn't mind having meals that weren't always life or death scenarios. Or if taken as a cub and not taught to hunt would be dependent on humans for food and shelter.

The concept of a "dog must earn its keep" came way before the concept of pets, lap dog's, & fake service or emotional support animals. It was man's best friend because it was pulling its weight and contributing, not just because it only showed affection. But like an actual human friend it was their to do both.
 
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