Media Georges St-Pierre, Jon Jones or Fedor Emelianenko - Who is the greatest MMA fighter of all-time? (The Finals)

[icemun]

Yeah, but no

There's rules, Jones broke Them, and he ain't getting rewarded for it

Not getting rewarded huh?






Seems like he is , in reality.

 

[icemun]

Fedor was dominant, but he fought in some freak shows. Jones was roided to the gills during his LHW run.

GSP is the only answer. He cleaned out his division TWICE against guys who were on streaks.

So the disqualifier is roids

But the first two never tested under USADA?

and one was in a promotion where roids were given to fighters

 

[Bob Sagat]

Fedor got KO'd a week before Jones obliterated #1 ranked Gane and you guys didn't care then either.

yeah let's wait until jones is 46 and still fighting top ranked guys (or anybody at all) amirite

 

[Steve Fox]

Never got caught doing something that was allowed in pride? Pretty irrelevant.

lol please

Fedor competed in PRIDE, where PED testing was notoriously lax, and some have speculated PED use was common. However, speculation doesn’t equal guilt. Similarly, GSP was accused of greasing during one fight to breathe better, but official reviews and hearings didn’t conclusively punish him or tarnish his legacy. Your arguments works both ways. Just admit you are biased.

It wasn't uncommon for fighters to grease, the same way it wasn't uncommon for them to use PEDS in pride. Worst of all, was the BJ PENN crying saying that he wanted his "fair fight". Lmfao

 

[markg171]

yeah let's wait until jones is 46 and still fighting top ranked guys (or anybody at all) amirite

Ryan Bader is 4 years older than Jones lmaoooo

 

[markg171]

So the disqualifier is roids

But the first two never tested under USADA?

and one was in a promotion where roids were given to fighters

The funny thing is all this talk of PEDs and Jon's the one with the most passes under the strictest testing.

 

[Mike]

None of that matters in debating who the best is as none of those things have anything to do with being the best.

No wonder you're confused.

Cheating during fights and taking peds does matter. That’s why Jones always loses these polls and will keep losing. I think you’re confused.

You’re the one that tried to add in the personal slander points towards gsp. I’m just saying it’s not relevant and if it was Jones has more scandals.

 

[markg171]

Cheating during fights and taking peds does matter. That’s why Jones always loses these polls and will keep losing. I think you’re confused.

You’re the one that tried to add in the personal slander points towards gsp. I’m just saying it’s not relevant and if it was Jones has more scandals.

The last time Jon failed for PEDs GSP hadn't even beaten Bisping yet. He's won 6 more title fights across 2 weight classes since.

You're not serious people and can't at all look at who the best fighter objectively is.

 

[Bob Sagat]

Ryan Bader is 4 years older than Jones lmaoooo

relative to age it's far better to fight a guy 7 years younger like bader than fighting a guy 5 years older like stipe

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Yes, it was very hilarious that Jones has a loss on his record because the ref didn't notice

• Jones dislocated Hamill's shoulder with his takedown and Hamill couldn't continue (TKO injury)
• Jones stopped him a dozen times with GNP before the elbows (TKO)
• Jones never even did 12-6 elbows and arced them like before landing like he's supposed to
• The elbows weren't what were fight ending, everything leading up to them were why Hamill couldn't continue
• He's supposed to give a warning or deduct a point, not an immediate DQ
• That Hamill is deaf and asking him if he can continue is not going to get him an answer and shouldn't have been used as proof that the elbows stopped Hamill

It's almost like there's a reason nobody actually thinks he's ever lost. Even Hamill himself said he didn't win that fight.

The Nevada AC should have admitted Mazzagatti
was insanely unqualified to be a ref and changed that loss to a NC a long time ago..

 

[Bouboumaster]

Not getting rewarded huh?



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Seems like he is , in reality.

By his promoteur, but fans of the sport reiect him as the GOAT

 

[icemun]

By his promoteur, but fans of the sport reiect him as the GOAT

Eh

Try again?

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[icemun]

yeah let's wait until jones is 46 and still fighting top ranked guys (or anybody at all) amirite

Fedor was in his early 30s

Henderson was in his 40s (and two weight classes lower)

 

[Kungpowking]

All great fighters. But for there will only ever be one Fedor. He truly was something special.

 

[cold_spring_harbor]

Objectively Jones is the goat, as much as it sucks to say it, it still remains true

 

[markg171]

All great fighters. But for there will only ever be one Fedor. He truly was something special.

Exactly what has Fedor done that Jon hasn't surpassed or done?

 

[Kungpowking]

Exactly what has Fedor done that Jon hasn't surpassed or done?

Pride FC Heavyweight champion and Heavyweight Grand Prix Champion. Four-time Combat Sambo world champion.

And a huge part of Fedor's aura is his stoic attitude. They guy was ice cold and humble. The polar opposite of most professional athletes.

 

[HavokHarmon]

The Nevada AC should have admitted Mazzagatti
was insanely unqualified to be a ref and changed that loss to a NC a long time ago..

Been a long time but didn’t he give Burns a win over Rumble after 40 or so eye pokes?

Legitimately may be a worse ref than Winslow.

 

[Mike]

The last time Jon failed for PEDs GSP hadn't even beaten Bisping yet. He's won 6 more title fights across 2 weight classes since.

You're not serious people and can't at all look at who the best fighter objectively is.

Thing is sitting out forever and then cherry picking a couple fights at hw doesn't just erase the oed busts and legacy of cheating. Jones fans seem to think once enough time passes everyone will forget about or excuse the cheating like they do.

But we've seen now across years of polls and discussions that you guys that think cheating is ok or doesn't matter are in the minority. To most fans, cheating is a huge black mark and disqualifies someone from ever being the goat.

 

[markg171]

Thing is sitting out forever and then cherry picking a couple fights at hw doesn't just erase the oed busts and legacy of cheating. Jones fans seem to think once enough time passes everyone will forget about or excuse the cheating like they do.

But we've seen now across years of polls and discussions that you guys that think cheating is ok or doesn't matter are in the minority. To most fans, cheating is a huge black mark and disqualifies someone from ever being the goat.

6 title fights is now cherrypicking

Okay.

Thank you for once again proving your dishonesty.