News George Foreman passed away, aged 76

defjaam said:
Yea me too.
But at the same time I'm thinking that he took a lot of shots to the head, which just isn't healthy even if you can take them so well like George. Especially in the 1990s he was pretty easy to hit.
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Average lifespan for a boxer is 67, it's probably not even just the headshots, the trauma to the other organs can't be good either. Sugar Ray Robinson ended up diabetic and he was one of the most famously disciplined boxers in history, I don't think it's like he ate at wendy's like Floyd did. The worst thing for the head trauma is just how so many boxers get old and they get worse and worse. Floyd Patterson and George Chuvalo were lucid and clear up until they got got older. I hear Joe Bugner is in a resthome with dementia too. But Floyd really fell off a cliff, I saw a video from about 95 where he's clear as a bell and then only a year or two later he had to resign (ironically because he couldn't recall details at some hearing regarding the UFC) because he couldn't function.

I really worry about Roy these days, he sounds fine at the moment but he took some of the nastiest kayoes I've ever seen, from a perspective of how he reacted and just got laid out so many times.
 
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Damn that sucks R.I.P.

His grill was legit and I used the hell out of it in my early 20's. I also sunk days into trying to beat him in Foreman for Real on the Game Gear. I got so good I could dominate everyone but could barely hurt him. I don't think it was possible.
 
Mujeriego said:
Get over there and tell him
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he got off at 9, I probably should have, it's only a few blocks away. Nice guy, showed me pics of him with vernon forrest and others, claimed to have sparred george, he said he took punches from shavers but I'm not sure if he fought him or just sparred. He would never give me the name he fought under and in boxing, who knows? He knows the sport so well though, that's the one thing that lets me know he was around it, the little things he'll say. He told me that he used to nail George foreman when he'd put on angle on him and George would take that "big ol' step"and he nail him before he could plant his feet, someone outside of boxing wouldn't even know what he was talking about.
 
Cheers to an absolutely amazing life.

One of the most universally beloved and respected boxers ever.
The poster boy for every aging man who thinks maybe just maybe he has still got it.

I would imagine the longest time between winning his first title fight and his last title fight. 20 or so years. tremendous record, I'm sure someone will posted it but he had around 70 fights and only lost a handfull and to greats.
Fought in the golden and silver eras of HW boxing.
Champ in both not bad.
 
A legend and an icon.

He was a terrifying looking dude when he was younger. Big bald chubby older George however looks as welcoming as Santa Claus himself. I always found that contrast funny.

R.I.P
 
This is huge, this guy is in the pantheon of the greats. Ali’s most formidable adversary.

He was also such a cool, positive guy. He made people’s eyes and hearts light up with his presence, great man.

RIP. One of my top 3 favourites.
 
hands down one of the most feared, respected heavy punchers to ever step into the ring

RIP
 
One thing people overlook: If George wins in Kinshasa, we look back at the whole era in a different way.
And I believe if he takes a step back and jabs instead of going all out, he wins the fight.
 
defjaam said:
One thing people overlook: If George wins in Kinshasa, we look back at the whole era in a different way.
And I believe if he takes a step back and jabs instead of going all out, he wins the fight.
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Ali sealed his greatness with that fight, without that win, he's a full step down in the all time rankings. He goes from the Greatest heavyweight to just another really good heavyweight champion.
 
mozfonky said:
Ali sealed his greatness with that fight, without that win, he's a full step down in the all time rankings. He goes from the Greatest heavyweight to just another really good heavyweight champion.
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George was once asked what would have been if he had won. And of course he responded in his typical exaggerated humble way by saying that nothing would have been different and Ali would still be the greatest.

But the reality is you're right. This fight was going to make or break Ali.
 
defjaam said:
One thing people overlook: If George wins in Kinshasa, we look back at the whole era in a different way.
And I believe if he takes a step back and jabs instead of going all out, he wins the fight.
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I'm not so sure.

Somehow the narrative got around that George was whooping Alis ass until he got caught/tired.

George was up but not huge and he was tired with a LONG WAY to go. He had already thrown everything he had and wasn't catching Ali clean and he was losing steam.

The double digit rounds were not going to be good for George
 
defjaam said:
George was once asked what would have been if he had won. And of course he responded in his typical exaggerated humble way by saying that nothing would have been different and Ali would still be the greatest.

But the reality is you're right. This fight was going to make or break Ali.
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he says in one of the recent interviews, it may be the one i posted above or another recent one that he didn't think Ali was greater than Joe Louis, I thought that was interesting, so, I wondered if he was saying that Joe would beat him too. George said different things at different times, I remember him calling out Mike Tyson a lot in the 80's, then, a few years ago he says he wanted no part of Tyson.
 
jeff7b9 said:
I'm not so sure.

Somehow the narrative got around that George was whooping Alis ass until he got caught/tired.

George was up but not huge and he was tired with a LONG WAY to go. He had already thrown everything he had and wasn't catching Ali clean and he was losing steam.

The double digit rounds were not going to be good for George
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he was actually behind on the official cards
(68–66, 70–67, and 69–66.)
, an often overlooked fact. Ali was beating him silly outside of a couple rounds where he let George really burn himself out.
 
My immediate Foreman memory is him denting the heavy bag preparing for Ali.


RIP Legend
 
mozfonky said:
he says in one of the recent interviews, it may be the one i posted above or another recent one that he didn't think Ali was greater than Joe Louis, I thought that was interesting, so, I wondered if he was saying that Joe would beat him too. George said different things at different times, I remember him calling out Mike Tyson a lot in the 80's, then, a few years ago he says he wanted no part of Tyson.
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He definitely wanted Tyson throughout his entire comeback. It's irrelevant what he said in his 70s lol

Hopyfield in 1991 was just as strong as Tyson.
Lennox in 1997 was just as strong as Tyson (the winner of Foreman - Briggs was getting a crack at Lennox).
 
defjaam said:
He definitely wanted Tyson throughout his entire comeback. It's irrelevant what he said in his 70s lol

Hopyfield in 1991 was just as strong as Tyson.
Lennox in 1997 was just as strong as Tyson (the winner of Foreman - Briggs was getting a crack at Lennox).
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I didn't know that he was in line to fight Lennox, that would have been a bad one for him. George was great at self managing, he also wanted nothing to do with Larry Holmes, a guy he knew had more know how than the guys he was fighting in most cases.
 
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