News Gamrot stepping in to fight Jalin Turner

rjmbrd said:
He did not get out classed, he lost a competitive decision to the #1 contender.
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Round 1 was competitive. Rounds 2 and 3 were not.

Dariush was ranked #6 at the time. He is now ranked as the #4 contender (not "the #1 contender" as you said), although he is clearly deserving of a title shot, which shows that the UFC's rankings are often worthless.

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rjmbrd said:
Otherwise agree that #7 vs #10 is reasonable enough, its just hilarious its always guys like Gamrot having to take the win streak rising talent as opposed to the guys hanging out in the top 5.
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Dariush was on a 7-fight winning streak when he fought down in the rankings to take on Gamrot, who was on a 4-fight winning streak.

But now Gamrot shouldn't have to fight a rising fighter?

Gamrot, despite coming off of a loss, is still getting an opponent ranked in the Top 10.

The UFC rankings are awful, but Gamrot's matchmaking isn't insulting to him. He was ranked in the Top 10 and on a winning streak, so they gave him a chance to test himself against a fighter that was 3 spots above him in the rankings. Gamrot lost, so now they are giving the fighter ranked 3 spots below him and chance to challenge himself against Gamrot.
 
Gamrot showing his big balls and low IQ again.
He came unprepared for biggest fight of his life against Dariush (absolutely no gameplan) and now short notice fight against bigger, likely stronger opponent in Jalin.
He was serious when he said that he wants to test himself and fight anybody tho.
 
Safton said:
Eh, I think Gamrot's wrestling was overvalued in that first round personally. He didn't really accomplish anything with it except land a few punches on clinch breaks against the fence. That was his only meaningful offense of the round. Conversely, Dariush was handing heavy low kicks that visibly affected Gamrot, a decent body kick or two, and intercepting knee during a TD attempt and he also busted open Gamer's ear and caused him to bleed. I think you have to favor him on impactful striking, especially when you consider that Dariush wasn't really being "controlled" on the ground because he was constantly scrambling or threatening submissions, so those positions were at best neutral a lot of the time if not potentially dangerous for Mateusz here and there.

I'm admittedly a Benny fan, though.
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I usually don't like to refer to the media scores, but 20 out of 22 people saw this fight just as I did:
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In the first round they landed the same amount of significant strikes:
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But Gamrot also scored two takedowns and had 1 minute and 22 seconds of control time:
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Speaking of the cut, it wasn't caused by any of the Beneil's strikes. It literally happened in the first 5 seconds of the fight. It seems that it was either a scratch or Gamrot was cut by Benny's glove. This visibly bothered Mateusz, so it's unfortunate but shit happens. Nevertheless, it surely influenced the assessment of this round by all who watched it. I had it for Gamer, but it was definitely a close one.

Johnnny said:
Round 1 was competitive. Rounds 2 and 3 were not.
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I just rewatched the fight and all rounds were competitive. You're crazy talking about 'outclassing'. In the second round, there were a few occasions when inches decided on who was edging the stand-up. If it had been five rounds, I think Gamrot would have won the last two as Benny looked spent by the final horn. Nonetheless, small tweaks here and there and Gamrot could definitely beat Dariush in a rematch. I think he hasn't reached his ceiling yet when I feel like Benny is in his prime right now.
 
Jones vs gane
Valentina vs grasso
Shavkat vs neal
Turner vs gamrot
Bo vs pickett

is an extremely good main card

Some violent prelims with driscus vs Brunson, cody vs trevin jones & marquez vs barriault

And really good prospects on the early prelims with ian, saaiman, ribovics & basharat

not sure how anyone can think this card isn’t amazing
 
deanambrose said:
Gamrot showing his big balls and low IQ again.
He came unprepared for biggest fight of his life against Dariush (absolutely no gameplan) and now short notice fight against bigger, likely stronger opponent in Jalin.
He was serious when he said that he wants to test himself and fight anybody tho.
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Dude strikes me as an instinctive fighter, and usually grappling of his level is going to work out well.

Dariush is a top contender, though, and repelled a very talented fighter.

I think he beats Jalin all day long, his only 'gameplan' needs to be how to avoid getting rocked early.
 
Does Jalin have the TDD to hold off Gamrot? He's one of those dudes where the wrestling exchanges drain a fuck ton of energy to defend, but they also demand a lot of energy on Gamrot's end too. I wonder how much his carido will be effected coming in on short notice.
 
Gamrot fucks him up badly, Jalin is wild and can get walked into counters which Gamrot is good in with power. In grappling he will butcher him. Jalin is getting finished.
 
SherdogWasNeverMyFriend said:
I usually don't like to refer to the media scores, but 20 out of 22 people saw this fight just as I did:
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Yeah and I'm usually not the hipster arguing against the mold, but in this case I would absolutely make the same argument to any of those people.

In the first round they landed the same amount of significant strikes:
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I'm well aware, but this isn't sports karate and we are capable of judging certain strikes to be more impactful than others. In the case of Benny, he was tagging Gamrot with heavy leg kicks (one of which visibly staggered Gamrot) and body kicks, caught him with an intercepting knee off a takedown attempt, etc. Beneil didn't clean his clock by any means -- Gamrot landed a pretty solid punch off of Dariush's forehead in the opening exchange when the latter ducked, a couple of jabs in open space, and his most consistent output was against the cage off clinch breaks. But Beneil seemed to be in control of the striking exchanges and landing the more meaningful shots, at least in my eyes.

[But Gamrot also scored two takedowns and had 1 minute and 22 seconds of control time:
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Takedowns which amounted to very little considering he landed zero ground strikes in Round 1, wasn't able to consistently advance position, and didn't attempt any submissions. Dariush, ironically, was the only one who actually threatened subs and landed some hammer-fists/elbows on the mat. And that "control time" should be taken with a grain of salt because -- as was previously stated -- Benny was actively scrambling, threatening to reverse Gamrot, and even putting out his own offense throughout pretty much every grappling exchange. Very little of that "control time" was Beneil or truly being "controlled" by a Gamer who had managed to consolidate the position. Besides, a takedown is merely a change of position with no scoring value until the one employing it utilizes it to establish an attack or dominant position of some kind. The rules are pretty clear on this issue.

Speaking of the cut, it wasn't caused by any of the Beneil's strikes. It literally happened in the first 5 seconds of the fight. It seems that it was either a scratch or Gamrot was cut by Benny's glove. This visibly bothered Mateusz, so it's unfortunate but shit happens. Nevertheless, it surely influenced the assessment of this round by all who watched it. I had it for Gamer, but it was definitely a close one.
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Maybe, maybe not. Even if we assume this at face value, I would argue that Beneil had the better moments throughout. Round 1 was definitely the most competitive round of the fight and I don't think scoring it for Gamrot is egregious by any means, but I align my opinion with the majority of the judges. I don't think Mateusz had much for Dariush that night. Great fighter, but he has some things to work on still.
 
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Excellent matchup, should be exciting and not easy to predict a winner
 
Johnnny said:
Round 1 was competitive. Rounds 2 and 3 were not
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Almost by definition, 10-9 rounds are competitive. All 3 rounds were most certainly competitive, the first being a toss up, with one judge awarding it to Gamrot. Both guys made a fine showing, Dariush really showed off his counter wrestling and ability to scramble.

Dariush was ranked #6 at the time. He is now ranked as the #4 contender (not "the #1 contender" as you said), although he is clearly deserving of a title shot, which shows that the UFC's rankings are often worthless.
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Yes, I meant Dariush is the rightful #1 contender in the division.


Dariush was on a 7-fight winning streak when he fought down in the rankings to take on Gamrot, who was on a 4-fight winning streak.
But now Gamrot shouldn't have to fight a rising fighter?
Gamrot, despite coming off of a loss, is still getting an opponent ranked in the Top 10.
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I think likely you are overthinking what I wrote - that its funny guys like Gamrot are always fighting down the rankings and taking on a win streak fighter the 'name' guys don't want.

Dariush is a unicorn in the division, a rare guy who is willing to forgo being strategic about how he is booked. Currently that set of decisions is still up in the air, if he loses his next bout its possible he never gets a title shot in his lifetime.

On balance, Gamrot fighting down the rankings against a win streak, small-name-big-talent fighter is pretty much exactly how I would expect the UFC to book him. It isn't egregious, but there is a reason the name brand guys don't have to do this, so long as they kiss the ring.
 
Gamrot might just UD his way to victory for this fight
 
Paulsp said:
Jones vs gane
Valentina vs grasso
Shavkat vs neal
Turner vs gamrot
Bo vs pickett

is an extremely good main card

Some violent prelims with driscus vs Brunson, cody vs trevin jones & marquez vs barriault

And really good prospects on the early prelims with ian, saaiman, ribovics & basharat

not sure how anyone can think this card isn’t amazing
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Yeah amazing card

I would put Bo on the prelims and Duplessis/Brunson on the main tho
 
It's a bad matchup for Turner but if he wins he's in the same league as Arman/Fiziev/Gamrot.

I really want to see Jalin vs Joel some day, they're about the same size and it would be a killer striking match.
 
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