Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

JFC you have more excuses than a woman with a credit card.

Take the L.
What can you do when someone doesn't want to address the obvious hole in their logic. Oh well.

Like I said, one would think you'd be a little more ears after you so badly missed on pricing for the Steam Machine and Xbox Ally X and insisted the person who was closer in their estimates didn't know what they're talking about.
 
What can you do when someone doesn't want to address the obvious hole in their logic. Oh well.

Like I said, one would think you'd be a little more ears after you so badly missed on pricing for the Steam Machine and Xbox Ally X and insisted the person who was closer in their estimates didn't know what they're talking about.
And there's the salt.
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If you mean what ODM they use, hard to say. They used Quanta for the last one, same as a lot of PC companies, but that was also when you could more easily manufacture in China. Dropping the screen also means manufacturing is a lot easier, panels are the hardest component to move out of Asia.

The Steam Machine would be cheaper if it used the same components, but it's shipping with much larger silicon and more storage and memory. The last two are very expensive right now.

You're claiming that Valve could offer a $100 subsidy per unit. That means they need to sell $300 in games in order for their 30% cut to pay for that subsidy. Hence I don't think it's realistic to expect every person who buys a Steam Machine to spend $300 on games they would have otherwise not bought.

You're treating this scenario as if 100% of revenue from each game purchase goes to Valve, when in reality it's a max of 30%.

We'll see. Xbox is going into a completely different price range next generation it sounds like. So it's really only PS6 maybe in that p[rice range, gaming desktops don't really compete in the $600 to $700 price range in any meaningful volume.
Yeah. I basically think it will just be a big steam deck minus the screen which is why I think it should be priced low. You could make them dirt cheap with the right contracts. That's before this RAM spike though. Pre ram prices I think they could easily have made this for the price of a steam deck with the right strategy.

Put it out for a year then. $300 in games is 2 triple A games and a few nostalgia trips each sale.It's not outrageous to think that someone could spend that IMO. I am looking at it like Valve picking up an entire market they previously missed out on from console gamers.

I think Xbox is dead personally. My guess is they probably were going to do basically the Steam machine using a Gamespass model of a similar strategy.

Putting this thing much above $800+ will kill it at launch. It's basically the mistake they made last time.
 
Well decided to bite the bullet and buy a new PC during black Friday sales because of DRAM prices. Replacing my aging 3600, 6700xt and 32gb ram current, got a 7800x3d, 9070xt, and 32gb ram at too much but less than expected to be for the foreseeable future. If ram prices didn't jump probably would've got a 9800x3d. Might have even waited for video card though the 6700xt would bottleneck the CPU.

This will play old games and pixel art games the best! It may even run crisis.

Edit: also got a 4tb SSD.
 
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Well decided to bite the bullet and buy a new PC during black Friday sales because of DRAM prices.

Still upset on the price i paid to upgrade my GPU in August. Considering how the retail pricing landscape is heading. It helps lessens that sting today.

Fortunately your chipset will have multiple future CPU upgrade paths.
 
Holy moly I knew RAM had gone up but I didn't know just how much. The Corsair Vengeance 16x2 6000 CL30 I paid $130 for in January would cost me like $400 now. It was "only" $210 a couple of weeks ago at Microcenter.
 
Holy moly I knew RAM had gone up but I didn't know just how much. The Corsair Vengeance 16x2 6000 CL30 I paid $130 for in January would cost me like $400 now. It was "only" $210 a couple of weeks ago at Microcenter.

2019(?) RAM manufacturers got caught colluding to keep RAM retail prices high in the years prior. Was also reported on yesterday that two RAM/SSD manufacturers decided against expanding production.

We're now heading into the seventh consecutive year of Pc gamers being swindled at the retail hardware level :mad:
 
I mean it could be worse. You can easily get a 5080 now at MSRP instead of paying $500+ markup for one earlier this year.
Also my 7600X3D that I paid $300 for is now only $200 and my mobo is now $150 instead of $200. You win some, you lose some.
 
Which bundle would y'all get? @Madmick

7600X3D + B650 Aorus Elite Wifi + 16x2 6000 CL30 bundle
$660

7700X + B650 Aorus Elite Wifi + 16x2 6000 CL36 bundle
$610

9700X + B650 Aorus Elite Wifi + 16x2 6000 CL36 bundle
$640

7600X3D and 9700X are dead even in gaming.
9700X is best for emulation.
7600X3D is noticeably more efficient than both (42w vs 71w 70w)

The CL30 RAM is only at MC and is some brand I've never heard of named Klevv. The CL36 RAM is Corsair Vengeance.
 
Holy moly I knew RAM had gone up but I didn't know just how much. The Corsair Vengeance 16x2 6000 CL30 I paid $130 for in January would cost me like $400 now. It was "only" $210 a couple of weeks ago at Microcenter.

Yeah, complete rip. Hear it's people hogging it for AI industry purposes.

I mean, I"m a PC masterrace fella, but it's kind of odd that like 64 gigs of RAM (I had 32 gigs in my old rig that I bought like 10 years ago) is the same price as like a PS5 or whatever.
 
9700X + B650 Aorus Elite Wifi + 16x2 6000 CL36 bundle
$640
9700X for me, but that's because I think it's better for re-encoding videos and for handling the additional load of streaming (as to friends in Discord) which are of interest to me. Just gotta believe the extra two cores will matter more than the extra cache for any general multitasking. If you were after purely gaming performance, I suppose the 7600X3D is the winner. I doubt there is any case where the 7700X should be favored for the RAM's superior latency timing.
 
I mean it could be worse. You can easily get a 5080 now at MSRP instead of paying $500+ markup for one earlier this year.
Also my 7600X3D that I paid $300 for is now only $200 and my mobo is now $150 instead of $200. You win some, you lose some.

Current GPU inventory isnt impacted by the RAM shortage. Eventual restock will bring them back up past MSRP again.

7600X3D release date was at a colliding set of circumstances for AMD. Which is why its launch price was high.
 
figure i will have to sell a kidney to get me a 6080 whenever it arrives. but now it's looking like i'll have to sell off my entire families organs just to get a few sticks of ram.

fuck ai and the greedy tech manufacturers.
 
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Do y'all remember the Zip drive? Too many people today just don't know the struggle of dealing with 1.44mb floppy disks and then along came 120mb. I think the 5" floppy disks we still had in preschool and early elementary school held like 500kb.
But then CDR/CDRW being mainstream killed the Zip drive. :(
 
Do y'all remember the Zip drive? Too many people today just don't know the struggle of dealing with 1.44mb floppy disks and then along came 120mb. I think the 5" floppy disks we still had in preschool and early elementary school held like 500kb.
But then CDR/CDRW being mainstream killed the Zip drive. :(
Zip disks having a penchant for self destruction also killed the Zip drive.
 
So I only recently learned that my laptop that I bought 3 years ago can be upgraded insofar as adding another SSD and some more ram. I’m definitely thinking about throwing in another nvme ssd as my laptop’s storage is basically full (I’ve got like 40gb left of 1TB) but I’m not sure if I should add in anymore ram, especially in light of the recent surge in prices. My laptop has an i7-12700H processor, a 3070 Ti (mobile - 8gb DDR 6) and 16 gb of DDR 5 at 4800 MHz.

Would I get any benefit from an upgrade to 32gb of DDR5? The only particularly demanding games I play on my laptop are Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur’s Gate 3.
 
So I only recently learned that my laptop that I bought 3 years ago can be upgraded insofar as adding another SSD and some more ram. I’m definitely thinking about throwing in another nvme ssd as my laptop’s storage is basically full (I’ve got like 40gb left of 1TB) but I’m not sure if I should add in anymore ram, especially in light of the recent surge in prices. My laptop has an i7-12700H processor, a 3070 Ti (mobile - 8gb DDR 6) and 16 gb of DDR 5 at 4800 MHz.

Would I get any benefit from an upgrade to 32gb of DDR5? The only particularly demanding games I play on my laptop are Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur’s Gate 3.
Probably not. You can use Steam's performance overlay (or download and use MSI Afterburner) to see what your current RAM consumption is. I highly doubt you're ever using that much even with other processes running in the background.

A heavily modded Cyberpunk 2077 with crazy high textures packs on a 4K monitor (or in a dual monitor setup) for someone who runs a lot of intensive stuff in the background (like also streaming their game) is probably one of the few cases where someone will go above 16GB today.

If RAM prices were as dirt cheap as they were 1-2 years ago, it would be like, hell, you're opening the thing up, why not upgrade, but since the prices are so crazy, now, it seems like more of a situation where it probably makes the most sense not to buy it until you need it. If you're not getting crashes or the issue where apps launch but immediately close...you have enough RAM.
 
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