Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[jefferz]

prices will be even worse in canada.

anyone wanna buy a kidney?

$2400 for your kidney? I'll give you $12.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

$2400 for your kidney? I'll give you $12.

 

[Slobodan]

I put a Montech AX140 fan as the rear exhaust. I think like the ring RGB fans better thant he ones with RGB on the blades

EDIT: I also got a 3-pack of Thermaltake Toughfan EX12 Pro fans, I plan to upgrade to a 360mm soon. I had 2 original Toughfan 12 Pro fans but the EX12 version have a removable blades and are daisy chained by magnetic connection so makes it a bit easier with cable management.

 

[My Spot]

I was thinking about scalping a 9800X3D on Ebay but apparently they take almost 12% now of the sold price. Wouldn't even net me $50.

 

[GtehMVP]

prices will be even worse in canada.

anyone wanna buy a kidney?

I was planning on upgrading to a 5080, I dread what the price of that will be as well.

 

[My Spot]

4080 launched at "only" $1200 so the 5080 will probably be $1500 or $1600. Especially with no competitor from AMD this time around.

 

[Bornstarch]

We're gonna be needing dedicated 220v outlets pretty soon for these new videocards

 

[My Spot]

We're gonna be needing dedicated 220v outlets pretty soon for these new videocards

 

[PEB]

4080 launched at "only" $1200 so the 5080 will probably be $1500 or $1600. Especially with no competitor from AMD this time around.

 

[Slobodan]

Intel ARC B580 looks to have a major driver overhead issue

 

[jefferz]

Dell is shaking up their naming scheme, and doing away with XPS, Inspiron, Latitude, etc.
Here's the new scheme

And their reasoning behind it:
The AI PC market is quickly evolving. Silicon innovation is at its strongest and everyone from IT decision makers to professionals and everyday users are looking at on-device AI to help drive productivity and creativity. To make finding the right AI PC easy for customers, we’ve introduced three simple product categories to focus on core customer needs…

 

[PEB]

 

[avenue94]

Dell is shaking up their naming scheme, and doing away with XPS, Inspiron, Latitude, etc.
Here's the new scheme

And their reasoning behind it:
The AI PC market is quickly evolving. Silicon innovation is at its strongest and everyone from IT decision makers to professionals and everyday users are looking at on-device AI to help drive productivity and creativity. To make finding the right AI PC easy for customers, we’ve introduced three simple product categories to focus on core customer needs…

The sentiment isn't bad but execution is awful. They so clearly copied HP's homework but somehow did it worse. That AMD win though is a huge change though, Dell was the last big holdout.

 

[Bornstarch]

 

[jefferz]

I just scrubbed through the video, but this caught my eye. So they're moving the boards to the center of the GPU now.

 

[Slobodan]

@Clippy gonna be getting the RTX 5090 to play Doom

 

[KaNesDeath]

Not one game performance chart. With 2/3rds of the presentation being AI training related. Nvidia are all in on the enterprise market.

 

[Bornstarch]

I just paid $1100 for an RTX 4070 Super Ti like half a year ago

 

[GtehMVP]

What are some of your thoughts on these cards? It sounds most of the gains are with frame generation. How does that perform with 40 series cards?

I've only been able to use FSR's frame gen with my 3080, and it gave it gave me tons of artifacts with Cyberpunk, so I never bothered. The framerate improvements were crazy though.

 

[JBSchroeds]

What are some of your thoughts on these cards? It sounds most of the gains are with frame generation. How does that perform with 40 series cards?

I've only been able to use FSR's frame gen with my 3080, and it gave it gave me tons of artifacts with Cyberpunk, so I never bothered. The framerate improvements were crazy though.

Based on a chart I've seen, the 5090 vs 4090 has:
32% more CUDA cores (21760 vs 16384)
-4% boost clock (2.41 vs 2.52 GHz)
33% more memory (32 vs 24 GB)
GDDR7 vs GDDR6X
33% wider memory bus (512 vs 384 bit)
27% higher TDP (575 vs 450 W)
33% higher launch price ($1999 vs $1599)

What this mean for actual gaming? Probably depends a lot on the game. I don't know enough about how the architecture actually gets used, but at first blush some of these upgrades seem to be more useful for computation than for gaming (what should be a huge increase in memory bandwidth on top of the 8GB extra total). I imagine this will be an AI monster, hence why nVidia's presentation was so focused on stuff like DLSS and frame generation. There was one infographic (I believe taken directly from their presentation) that was showing a 1080p render upscaled to 4k and then triple frame-genned, meaning the result was only ~6% of what you'd be seeing was traditionally rendered -- the rest of it was an AI making its best guess.

I've never had an nVidia card (ATI x300 to x1550 to HD4870 to HD5950 to AMD RX5700 to RX6800XT) so all this fancy AI stuff does not apply to me, plus I'm a Patient Gamer and I don't think a single game I own has raytracing. My monitor is 1440p/144Hz so I'm not trying to drive big res or piles of frames. Which is a long way of saying: on a personal level, I could not give less of a shit.