Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

Madmick said:


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I forgot to add, it's going to be Noctua colors as well. Silver cooler, and Noctua colored fans. If it was black and $150, I still wouldn't consider it, but it would help a little bit.
Unless you're on the extreme performance end, like the i9, this doesn't make any sense.
They also switched to Torx head screws. It's not a dealbreaker, and they include a screwdriver, but will be annoying in the future if you need to remove it and don't remember where you put your screwdriver.

I haven't kept up on AIO's, so I did a quick Amazon search.
I was surprised to see Deepcool offer a 360mm with a screen for $120.
 
$150 when the the Phantom Spirit Evo is under $50?

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Madmick said:
Meh, who cares. All the latest CPUs are pushed right up against the limit out of the box, now, past which it makes no sense to give them any more juice as the heat and power consumption skyrocket while the performance barely inches up. PBO was better for gaming than manual overclocking with the last AMD gen, only pushed up performance ~1%-4%, usually, and CPUs like the 7800X3D had artificial frequency caps, anyway, to protect the more expensive CPUs, so what's the point of budget overclocking at all.

If anything, ironically, no OCing on the lower B boards might turn out to be a good thing, because the "E" was sort of a glorified marketing failure to upsell the boards with more PCIe (specifically Gen5) lanes, and that didn't catch on with the less knowledgeable buyers because it isn't easy to convey; not that they've ever tried really simplifying practical motherboard differences. If the know-just-enough-to-think-they-know-everything Redditors of the world get bamboozled into caring about OCing it might drive down the cost of B840 motherboards by suppressing demand.
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Last CPU I oc'd was a 7700k that is still running today in a friends PC at 5.0ghz OC
 
jefferz said:
I forgot to add, it's going to be Noctua colors as well. Silver cooler, and Noctua colored fans. If it was black and $150, I still wouldn't consider it, but it would help a little bit.
Unless you're on the extreme performance end, like the i9, this doesn't make any sense.
They also switched to Torx head screws. It's not a dealbreaker, and they include a screwdriver, but will be annoying in the future if you need to remove it and don't remember where you put your screwdriver.

I haven't kept up on AIO's, so I did a quick Amazon search.
I was surprised to see Deepcool offer a 360mm with a screen for $120.
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AIO prices have slumped since I bought them lol feels bad.
 
jefferz said:
I've had issues with them as well. I'll never buy anything from PNY either, that hatred goes back to a 128mb usb 1.1 flash drive.
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i had a pny verto geforce 4 mx 440. it was a pretty decent card for its day.
 
jefferz said:
The Noctua NHD15 G2 is finally shipping at the end of June.
New fans, bumping up the heat pipes from 6 to 8, etc.
MSRP is $150!
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my noctua nh-d15 has been glorious for me.

these things are rather big and bulky. it barely squeezes into my corsair 4000D and i had to use low profile ram sticks and raise the front cooler fan up just a hair just to have enough clearance for the first stick of ram.

it wasn't fun to install. but this thing is a beast, and probably the best, if not one of the best air coolers out there. definately the best one i've ever used, and a solid alternative to watercooling. i can only expect that its successor is going to be all that much better, otherwise why take something that works great and try to "fix it" right?

on my next build i'll probably bite the bullet and go with the new G2 revision of the NH-D15, so long as it can keep the temperatures of the new line of cpu's in check, which i'm sure it probably will. but i'd probably want to see what the price differences are between the NH-D15 and the G2 model by the time it comes to do a new build and then look at benchmarks between the two coolers first. i mean shit if i'm paying an extra 60 bucks just to shed a few degrees while gaming and i'm still topping out at 55-65 degrees, then i don't really see a whole lot of reason for buying the new model, i'd probably just get another NH-D15 and call it a day.
 
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idrankyourbeer said:
my noctua nh-d15 has been glorious for me.

these things are rather big and bulky. it barely squeezes into my corsair 4000D and i had to use low profile ram sticks and raise the front cooler fan up just a hair just to have enough clearance for the first stick of ram.

it wasn't fun to install. but this thing is a beast, and probably the best, if not one of the air coolers out there. definately the best one i've ever used, and a solid alternative to watercooling. i can only expect that its successor is going to be all that much better, otherwise why take something that works great and try to "fix it" right?

on my next build i'll probably go with the new G2 revision of the NH-D15, so long as it can keep the temperatures of the new line of cpu's in check, which i'm sure it probably will.
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The NHD15 was a beast, but even low end stuff, like the Peerless Assassin for $35, has caught up.
 
jefferz said:
The NHD15 was a beast, but even low end stuff, like the Peerless Assassin for $35, has caught up.
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i dont really follow along with the new stuff. but shit i'm still rocking the trusty old hyper 212 evo in my old build with a 4690k oc'd @ 4.5 ghz and it still goes fine to this very day.

that one is a fairly decent sized cooler too and i was barely able to squeeze it into my corsair 200r.

but shit i spent like 32 canadian buckaroo's on that cooler and for it to run as quiet as does and keep my cpu as cool as it does, it was a pretty good deal, even though i sliced the shit out of my finger while mounting it.

probably the best budget cooler for its time and it punched well above its weight class. but i wouldnt want to use it on any higher end cpu's these days, at least not intel.
 
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Woldog said:
AIO prices have slumped since I bought them lol feels bad.
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I got tired of having to replace an AIO every couple of years. I'm back to air cooling.


idrankyourbeer said:
i dont really follow along with the new stuff. but shit i'm still rocking the trusty old hyper 212 evo in my old build with a 4690k oc'd @ 4.5 ghz and it still goes fine to this very day.

that one is a fairly decent sized cooler too and i was barely able to squeeze it into my corsair 200r.

but shit i spent like 32 canadian buckaroo's on that cooler and for it to run as quiet as does and keep my cpu as cool as it does, it was a pretty good deal, even though i sliced the shit out of my finger while mounting it.

probably the best budget cooler for its time and it punched well above its weight class. but i wouldnt want to use it on any higher end cpu's these days, at least not intel.
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They've sold a ton of Hyper 212's. A couple of years ago a Computex, their booth said they've sold over 3 million. And they still make them. I remember paying $17 for one back in Sandy Bridge era, now they're $30+.
If you can pick them up on sale, like the all black version is $25 right now.

Thermalright has taken over that budget cooler category in single and dual tower coolers.

Under $35 for a dual tower Peerless Assassin, and Assassin Spirit single tower for $18. GamersNexus has covered both.

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idrankyourbeer said:
my noctua nh-d15 has been glorious for me.

these things are rather big and bulky. it barely squeezes into my corsair 4000D and i had to use low profile ram sticks and raise the front cooler fan up just a hair just to have enough clearance for the first stick of ram.

it wasn't fun to install. but this thing is a beast, and probably the best, if not one of the best air coolers out there. definately the best one i've ever used, and a solid alternative to watercooling. i can only expect that its successor is going to be all that much better, otherwise why take something that works great and try to "fix it" right?

on my next build i'll probably bite the bullet and go with the new G2 revision of the NH-D15, so long as it can keep the temperatures of the new line of cpu's in check, which i'm sure it probably will. but i'd probably want to see what the price differences are between the NH-D15 and the G2 model by the time it comes to do a new build and then look at benchmarks between the two coolers first. i mean shit if i'm paying an extra 60 bucks just to shed a few degrees while gaming and i'm still topping out at 55-65 degrees, then i don't really see a whole lot of reason for buying the new model, i'd probably just get another NH-D15 and call it a day.
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www.tomshardware.com

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review: This isn’t a competition. This is a massacre.

As long as it will fit in your case, this is the air cooler you should probably buy.
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WhiteMousse said:
WHAT

DUDE

Lol I had a Voodoo 3 way back in the day. I think 99? 2000? Right when I started college. I always thought that 3DFX became NVidia, I guess I was wrong
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It was just an April Fool's joke last year. Sadly not true. :(
And yeah my first video card was a Voodoo 3 3000 (can't remember if it was AGP or PCI). Back when 3dfx had 80% market share and Nvidia was the underdog. The good ole days.
 
My Spot said:
It was just an April Fool's joke last year. Sadly not true. :(
And yeah my first video card was a Voodoo 3 3000 (can't remember if it was AGP or PCI). Back when 3dfx had 80% market share and Nvidia was the underdog. The good ole days.
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I had a Voodoo 2 as well. I will never forget when I first saw it in action. I had been an avid fan of Quake 2 and had played it for about a year using the software renderer. So it looked like this:
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So when I saw what my buddy was seeing on his Graphics Card, it was like this
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I remember thinking to myself "I don't even understand how there can be this much of a difference just because of a card."

I can't remember exactly what it was but my next upgrade after the Voodoo 3 was the ATI Crossfire, two cards acting as one. I got that for WarCraft III and Doom 3, and I think it lasted me until around the time of BioShock. After that I only got Nvidia
 
WhiteMousse said:
I had a Voodoo 2 as well. I will never forget when I first saw it in action. I had been an avid fan of Quake 2 and had played it for about a year using the software renderer. So it looked like this:
hq720.jpg


So when I saw what my buddy was seeing on his Graphics Card, it was like this
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I remember thinking to myself "I don't even understand how there can be this much of a difference just because of a card."

I can't remember exactly what it was but my next upgrade after the Voodoo 3 was the ATI Crossfire, two cards acting as one. I got that for WarCraft III and Doom 3, and I think it lasted me until around the time of BioShock. After that I only got Nvidia
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This was the 4090 when I first got into PC gaming. $600 in 1998 money. My buddy had an older brother with a brand new Voodoo 2 and watching him play and emerge out of the spaceship at the beginning of Unreal blew my mind.

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