Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[My Spot]

Off the top of my head nobody really does that. Most of the major reviewers limit different settings comparisons to with ray-tracing on and with it off, but always for High or Ultra settings at various resolutions. Sometimes DSO will do that, but the focus is always on a specific game, and how well it is optimized for PC.

I've noticed the YouTubers tend to do different graphic settings the most. You can peel through them. But the annoying part is that most videos focus on a single game. Examples:

Yeah I've been watching those lately but they don't do what I wanna see. For example, someone will do 4k medium for Cyberpunk but they won't do it without ray tracing or without DLSS.

 

[Madmick]

Yeah I've been watching those lately but they don't do what I wanna see. For example, someone will do 4k medium for Cyberpunk but they won't do it without ray tracing or without DLSS.

Yeah, I feel the frustration, but you're after some highly specific data. What is the purchase conundrum before you for which you're seeking this data to illuminate? You trying to figure out if you need to spend up to get the 4080?

 

[My Spot]

Yeah, I feel the frustration, but you're after some highly specific data. What is the purchase conundrum before you for which you're seeking this data to illuminate? You trying to figure out if you need to spend up to get the 4080?

I'm just curious. And something like a 4080 is way overkill as it averages almost 90 FPS at 4k ultra.
I think a 3070 would be good enough.

 

[JBSchroeds]

I can't wait for LTT Labs to really get rolling, for data just like this. The automation software they're designing is for these exact kinds of questions.

 

[PEB]

Here is a photo of my setup if anyone has not seen it yet home build. Figured I would combine everything Dolby ATMOS 150 watt per channel amp currently 4 JBL speakers soon to be 5.
My cabinet build 13 Gen Intel 13900, Nvidia 3090Ti, corsair 420mm liquid cooling, 32 gigs of ram, 3 terabytes of storage an 1200 watt corsair power supply an corsair icue 5000T RGB case, 5 servo drivers for simulation setup. Currently only using 4 of them with future expansion 7 total.
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The box is a standard half height server cabinet with low noise casters that I 3D printed parts for mounting servo drivers an controller box. To combine everything except for my 1500 watt amp for the buttkicker.

I have since cut a back for the case with ventilation.

 

[My Spot]

Here is a photo of my setup if anyone has not seen it yet home build. Figured I would combine everything Dolby ATMOS 150 watt per channel amp currently 4 JBL speakers soon to be 5.
My cabinet build 13 Gen Intel 13900, Nvidia 3090Ti, corsair 420mm liquid cooling, 32 gigs of ram, 3 terabytes of storage an 1200 watt corsair power supply an corsair icue 5000T RGB case, 5 servo drivers for simulation setup. Currently only using 4 of them with future expansion 7 total.
"
The box is a standard half height server cabinet with low noise casters that I 3D printed parts for mounting servo drivers an controller box. To combine everything except for my 1500 watt amp for the buttkicker.

I have since cut a back for the case with ventilation.

Why the locked i9?

 

[jefferz]

Here is a photo of my setup if anyone has not seen it yet home build. Figured I would combine everything Dolby ATMOS 150 watt per channel amp currently 4 JBL speakers soon to be 5.
My cabinet build 13 Gen Intel 13900, Nvidia 3090Ti, corsair 420mm liquid cooling, 32 gigs of ram, 3 terabytes of storage an 1200 watt corsair power supply an corsair icue 5000T RGB case, 5 servo drivers for simulation setup. Currently only using 4 of them with future expansion 7 total.
"
The box is a standard half height server cabinet with low noise casters that I 3D printed parts for mounting servo drivers an controller box. To combine everything except for my 1500 watt amp for the buttkicker.

I have since cut a back for the case with ventilation.

 

[jefferz]

Best Buy has the Glorious GMMK Prebuilt full size keyboard with hot swappable Cherry Browns for $50. That's an outstanding deal.

For those that don't know, a hot swappable keyboard allows you to swap out a single key, without having to do any soldering, when one goes bad. Instead of having to throw out your entire keyboard.
IMO, if you're going to spend over $80 on a keyboard these days, it should be hot swapable.

 

[My Spot]

The 4060 can't even keep up with the 3060 Ti. Nvidia should've released it as a 4050.

 

[Slobodan]

So I got a new case - Fractal Design Pop Air

 

[jefferz]

So I got a new case - Fractal Design Pop Air

You know that little drawer in the front of the case,

Spoiler

What's the Silverstone pci card?

 

[Slobodan]

You know that little drawer in the front of the case,

Spoiler

What's the Silverstone pci card?

Just a Crucial P1 2TB card, i've got 4 PCIE Gen 4.0 cards on all the other M.2 slots.

 

[Madmick]

Razer has introduced its first new mouse line in years with the launch of the Cobra series.
https://www.razer.com/pc/gaming-mice/cobra-line
Razer Cobra Pro (Wireless), $129 MSRP
Razer Cobra (Wired), $39 MSRP

MMORPG Review
The theme of the series is really only featured in the flagship wireless version, and that is customizability. It has 5 onboard memory profiles, 11 RGB lighting zones driven by their Chroma lighting software, and 10 "programmable controls". This includes 8 buttons, and I'm personally a fan of the two top buttons behind the scroll wheel which function as default on-the-fly DPI changers. Not many mice still have those. This includes support for Razer's "hypershift" feature managed in Synapse which allows you to quickly shift all the functions you have assigned to the buttons to a second set of functions (similar to using Control or Shift as modifier keys to your keyboard's keys to easily use the same key for multiple different hot buttons in a game, for example).

Tom's Hardware called it a "baby Basilisk", saying it's "like the Basilisk V3 Pro and Viper V2 Pro had a baby", but I think MMORPG more usefully abbreviates its spirit by describing it as another heir to the Viper Ultimate like the V2 Pro, but one that sacrifices a bit of the extreme focus on competitive gaming (i.e. lower weight) for gamer flair and feature richness (i.e. RGB, side grips, and optional accessories like the charging dock & charging puck). It can switch between 2.4Ghz and Bluetooth for those who accept the higher latency of the latter to reap more battery life.

For competitive games, it's still very light at 77g because it's closer to the Viper Mini in size, and combined with the symmetrical design, it caters to claw and fingertip grips. It also carries the latest flagship Razer Focus Pro 30K gaming sensor, and supports max movement velocities/acceleration beyond what any gamer would require. It comes with a 2-year warranty.

 

[jefferz]

Razer has introduced its first new mouse line in years with the launch of the Cobra series.
https://www.razer.com/pc/gaming-mice/cobra-line
Razer Cobra Pro (Wireless), $129 MSRP
Razer Cobra (Wired), $39 MSRP

MMORPG Review
The theme of the series is really only featured in the flagship wireless version, and that is customizability. It has 5 onboard memory profiles, 11 RGB lighting zones driven by their Chroma lighting software, and 10 "programmable controls". This includes 8 buttons, and I'm personally a fan of the two top buttons behind the scroll wheel which function as default on-the-fly DPI changers. Not many mice still have those. This includes support for Razer's "hypershift" feature managed in Synapse which allows you to quickly shift all the functions you have assigned to the buttons to a second set of functions (similar to using Control or Shift as modifier keys to your keyboard's keys to easily use the same key for multiple different hot buttons in a game, for example).

Tom's Hardware called it a "baby Basilisk", saying it's "like the Basilisk V3 Pro and Viper V2 Pro had a baby", but I think MMORPG more usefully abbreviates its spirit by describing it as another heir to the Viper Ultimate like the V2 Pro, but one that sacrifices a bit of the extreme focus on competitive gaming (i.e. lower weight) for gamer flair and feature richness (i.e. RGB, side grips, and optional accessories like the charging dock & charging puck). It can switch between 2.4Ghz and Bluetooth for those who accept the higher latency of the latter to reap more battery life.

For competitive games, it's still very light at 77g because it's closer to the Viper Mini in size, and combined with the symmetrical design, it caters to claw and fingertip grips. It also carries the latest flagship Razer Focus Pro 30K gaming sensor, and supports max movement velocities/acceleration beyond what any gamer would require. It comes with a 2-year warranty.

How many times are you changing DPI on the daily?

The people have been asking for a Razer Viper Mini wireless that isn't $300+. Give the people what they want, Razer.

 

[Madmick]

I change DPI mid-game.

 

[My Spot]

I think my Logitech G300s goes up to 2500 but I always just keep it at 1000.

 

[My Spot]

And holy shit is that Ryzen 5600X3D bundle at Microcenter tempting. Looks like I'll be returning my 12400 and B660.

 

[Blayt7hh]

How many times are you changing DPI on the daily?

The people have been asking for a Razer Viper Mini wireless that isn't $300+. Give the people what they want, Razer.

I mostly just change it back when I accidentally hit the button on my mouse that changes it

 

[Madmick]

I think my Logitech G300s goes up to 2500 but I always just keep it at 1000.

Indeed, most of us maintain a fixed DPS.

DPI-on-the-fly-shifter buttons used to be colloquially referred to as "Sniper Buttons" (don't tend to see that much anymore). That's because it has always been popular among some to use a lower DPI than their general DPI when they go to snipe. It's also because many games didn't offer customization that allowed you to set different sensitivities for hipfire vs. ADS fire. Some still don't, and most still don't allow you to set different DPIs for your sniper versus all other guns. Also, it can be problematic when the separate ADS setting affects all guns, not just the sniper scope. Most only want a lower DPI for sniper scope-ins, not all guns that typically have very weak magnification for their ADS. You want those to just work normally, the only reason you're scoping in is you want slighly more accurate visual information for precision on the shot.

For me my primary use of DPI-on-the-fly is for vehicles (and there usually isn't a different sens option for vehicles, either). I switch to a higher DPI because vehicles don't require as much precision, and I want to be able to easily spin my cam or the vehicle itself. Only if I'm firing a handgun from the driver's seat do I still require that precision. And this shows up in single player campaigns, too. Off the top of my head, when you switch to gun turrets in Far Cry, it always drives me crazy, because it moves like molasses, and suddenly you're dying before you can swivel the damn turret. Makes it pointless to even have a truck with a turret.

With modern software you can sometimes program any button to change DPI, but I don't like using critical mouse buttons that are easily accessible for something that I use so rarely. That's why I've always liked the two on the top behind the mouse scroll wheel for rarely used functions like this or Hypershift itself.

And holy shit is that Ryzen 5600X3D bundle at Microcenter tempting. Looks like I'll be returning my 12400 and B660.

"Micro Center will also sell a $329 bundle with the six-core 12-thread Ryzen 5 56003XD, an ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 memory."

 

[jefferz]

It's too bad the 5600x3D won't come with a cooler.