Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[PEB]

Ok shedoggers get your pennies together Jan 27 new monster GPU incoming.

"Having denser capacities modules will mean that NVIDIA could feature all the modules on the front side of the PCB (12 modules in total) which will yield slightly lower PCB and memory temperatures. The GeForce RTX 3090 Ti won't be the only card getting these higher density modules as the rumor also mentions the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti to get a similar 2GB module treatment. Having 21 Gbps memory chips would essentially give the card up to 1 TB/s of bandwidth. The graphics card has been rumored for a CES 2022 unveil and will launch on 27th January (if things go according to plan)."

Oh who am I kidding it is already sold out going to miners thanks Nvidia lol.

 

[Madmick]

A few of the best sales I've seen in a while on two of the highly prized Samsung SSDs:

 

[My Spot]

A few of the best sales I've seen in a while on two of the highly prized Samsung SSDs:

Damn, the top one is already back to $120. Best Buy does have it refurbished for $85 with free shipping.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...ith-v-nand-technology/6351466.p?skuId=6351466

 

[Madmick]

The most dominant no-brainer CPU option for the masses in over a decade was finally announced.

Tom's Hardware: Intel Core i5-12400 Review: Budget Gaming Supremacy

Intel hasn't officially announced the ~$185 Core i5-12400 and the chips aren't supposed to be available at retail yet, but that didn't stop us from snagging a chip and putting it to the test. We found that the Alder Lake Core i5-12400 delivers a stunning level of performance in our CPU benchmarks, beating all comparable Ryzen chips and even several of the more expensive models. Furthermore, with the right tuning, it's even faster at gaming than the $549 previous-gen Core i9-11900K flagship, raising the bar for budget gaming chips as it joins our list of the Best CPUs for gaming...

Intel Core i5-12400 Gaming Benchmarks — The TLDR
At stock settings, the Core i5-12400 at stock settings is 1.9% faster than AMD's venerable ~$299 Ryzen 5 5600X. After tuning, the Core i5-12400 ties the overclocked 5600X, an impressive showing for a chip that costs $110 less.

Core i5-12400 Application Benchmarks — The TLDR
We can boil down productivity application performance into two broad categories: single- and multi-threaded.

The Core i5-12400 is impressive in our cumulative measure of single-threaded performance. As expected, we don't see any meaningful differences between the 12400's different power settings, but the 12400 doesn't need too much help. The chip is 2.3% faster than the Core i9-11900K, 6% faster than the 11700K, and an incredible 15.7% faster than the 11400...the 12400 is still plenty competitive against the Ryzen 5 models, even beating the vaunted Ryzen 5 5600X by 2.3% at standard settings and 6.7% after tuning both chips.

A few prior reviews have leaked out, but the first with a retail sample came out 5 days ago in a video review by a YouTuber called "Chill Builds". It shows that even with the new stock Intel Laminar RM1 cooler the CPU never rose above 81C running Cinebench which means that it will operate at desirable temperatures in gaming without requiring a discrete cooler purchase (though some will still opt for that).

Intel Laminar RM1 (for 65W Alder Lake CPUs)

It's a whopping 16% faster than the currently $240 R5-5600G in games. It even beat the currently $290 R5-5600X across the entire suite (this includes synthetics) when the latter chip was overclocked to PBO mode, and the latter chip requires a discrete cooler purchase to avoid throttling, especially with this PBO mode active, so the overwhelming price advantage of the 12400 grows against AMD's best competitor despite that it is already superior in gaming, or at worst equal with PBO boosting.

Spoiler: Tom's Hardware Game Benchmarks

 

[560ti]

CES was decent. You can tell the chip shortage is slowing things down with most of the juicy stuff (next gen cards and Zen 4/Raptor Lake) being targeted for the end of the year. Few tidbits

- Budget RTX 3050 and RX 6500 both heavily needed and pushed but doubtful they can pump enough out to keep them anywhere near MSRP.

- AMD is basically conceding till the end of the year. No none X 5600 series and 3D cache only coming to an expensive 5800x model.

- As predicted the midrange 12th series will be the most signficant launch of the year. Midrange boards and plenty of sub $225 models (12600, 12500, 12400,12400F)

 

[jefferz]

CES was decent. You can tell the chip shortage is slowing things down with most of the juicy stuff (next gen cards and Zen 4/Raptor Lake) being targeted for the end of the year. Few tidbits

- Budget RTX 3050 and RX 6500 both heavily needed and pushed but doubtful they can pump enough out to keep them anywhere near MSRP.

- AMD is basically conceding till the end of the year. No none X 5600 series and 3D cache only coming to an expensive 5800x model.

- As predicted the midrange 12th series will be the most signficant launch of the year. Midrange boards and plenty of sub $225 models (12600, 12500, 12400,12400F)

The RX6500 XT only has 4gb of vram?! Fuck off.

 

[560ti]

The RX6500 XT only has 4gb of vram?! Fuck off.

It's actually smart and was already predicted to be 4GB for multiple reasons
- It's only going to be slightly faster than a nearly 5 year old RX580 (580 barely saw any performance difference from 4gb model to 8gb)
- Memory bus is only 64bit
- Cuts off buyers who want 8GB for Ethereum mining
- Only has 1,024 shading units. The card will run out of shader performance before it would be able to properly take advantage of a larger VRAM pool

 

[jefferz]

It's actually smart and was already predicted to be 4GB for multiple reasons
- It's only going to be slightly faster than a nearly 5 year old RX580 (580 barely saw any performance difference from 4gb model to 8gb)
- Memory bus is only 64bit
- Cuts off buyers who want 8GB for Ethereum mining
- Only has 1,024 shading units. The card will run out of shader performance before it would be able to properly take advantage of a larger VRAM pool

If it's only slightly faster than an RX580, within 10%, this is a joke of a card.

 

[560ti]

If it's only slightly faster than an RX580, within 10%, this is a joke of a card.

The slides they showed today with an 8 game sample averaged 34% faster than a stock 1650 so that should put it somewhere in the third party 580/590 range performance wise.

It's basically a more power efficent version of the 5500XT with slightly higher performance. I really wasn't expecting much different to be honest (market sucks but I wasn't expecting this card to be magic)

 

[PEB]

In Intel’s second “Behind this Door” video, take a sneak peek into fab D1X in Oregon to see what is likely the most complicated machine humans have built.

An extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography system uses radically shorter wavelengths to project circuit patterns onto silicon wafers — wavelengths at 13.5 nanometers, or more than 10 times smaller than today’s lithography machines. The EUV machine pushes Moore’s Law forward and chip makers cannot produce leading-edge chips without it.

Delivering just one of these tools to D1X takes three Boeing 747 cargo planes, 40 freight containers and 20 trucks. The school bus-sized machine comprises 100,000 parts and weighs nearly 200 tons.

ASML makes these EUV machines. The Dutch company is currently working on the next-generation of the tool — and Intel is in line to receive one."

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...v-most-precise-complex-machine.html#gs.ksjk75

 

[PEB]

 

[jefferz]

Why do you keep posting videos with no context from creators that everyone in here watchers?

 

[jefferz]

How do you take your reputation for producing high quality products and throw it out the window? Release this. Good god.

 

[Slobodan]

How do you take your reputation for producing high quality products and throw it out the window? Release this. Good god.

Have you seen CyberPowerPC's new case?

 

[KaNesDeath]

Have you seen CyberPowerPC's new case?

Impractical and generates to many new points of failure. But it is pretty cool.

 

[jefferz]

Have you seen CyberPowerPC's new case?

Now that's something I'd expect InWin to make. Will they be smart enough to offer it as available for purchase separately though? They really bit themselves in the ass with that Snow Blind case they offered awhile back, they could have moved a shit ton of those. They eventually offered them for purchase but by then the hype had died out. I'm surprised no one else has copied that design.

 

[Slobodan]

Impractical and generates to many new points of failure. But it is pretty cool.

It's definitely cool as hell, one of the coolest cases I've seen, practicality be damned lol.

Now that's something I'd expect InWin to make. Will they be smart enough to offer it as available for purchase separately though? They really bit themselves in the ass with that Snow Blind case they offered awhile back, they could have moved a shit ton of those. They eventually offered them for purchase but by then the hype had died out. I'm surprised no one else has copied that design.

Damn I remember this case, it's a cool concept. Lots of customisation options there.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Have you seen CyberPowerPC's new case?

Name of av?

 

[Mohawk Mauler]

@Strychnine @Valhoven

I have bad internet service where i live,could upgrading my console to the X-Series help out a bit with my connection for online gaming?

6 to the household 4 kids,while almost everything is standard 4k now its hard to get some decent online gaming in lol

 

[Valhoven]

@Strychnine @Valhoven

I have bad internet service where i live,could upgrading my console to the X-Series help out a bit with my connection for online gaming?

6 to the household 4 kids,while almost everything is standard 4k now its hard to get some decent online gaming in lol

Outside my wheelhouse, brother, with my being able to add only that connecting to your router via network (Ethernet) cable is advisable if not doing so already. I think your issue is a common one (video-streaming in general like Netflix are greater offenders than online gaming which is optimised for bandwidth, iirc) so I'd be interested to hear from dawgs more in the know what options are available to you. *a-hem, kick kids off Netflix during dad hours x-y