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Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

As a follow up to me purchasing that 34" Dell Alienware monitor:

Wow... Wow.... WOW.....

OK, let's start off with 'Why did you buy a smaller monitor when you used a 4k TV that had a great display and virtually no input lag?".
  • The 49" TV just became too much. Sitting that close to something that large, having to actually look up and down, and side to side because the whole TV really didnt fit in my entire peripheral. Overall, I just felt that it was more of a hassle than what it was worth. I have purchased top rate TV's with low input lag for monitors for the past 10-15 years now, always with the moniker of "the bigger, the better", but that stops after playing on an ACTUAL gaming monitor.

Now to the "Why the Wows you over-exaggerating chubby manlet?"
  • From the moment I started playing on this thing, EVERYTHING popped for me. The 100hz refresh rate felt like butter, and I was impressed with that immediately. The mouse movement to the way the games felt all just flowed. Then I OC'ed it to 120hz, and back to 100hz, then back to 120hz, and doing that for 5 minutes at a time, I could finally start to tell the slight differences in refresh rates. It wasn't punch you in the face noticeable from 100hz to 120hz, but after grasping the HUGE difference between 60hz TV and a 100hz gaming monitor, I could feel that 20hz difference. That being said, having used 60hz monitors for so long, I would be perfectly fine with a 100hz monitor, but I dont have to be because mine OCs to 120hz :p
Everything just feels... better. It's really hard to explain. The way the whole monitor fits in my view, the way it gives me extra PoV in games via being ultra wide, the absolute crispness and quality of the games popping. And coming from a 4k 49" TV to a 1440p 120hz monitor, how can the picture look... better? It just absolutely does. Maybe the ole addage of "you can't see in 4k" or whatever applies, or perhaps games not even using 4k textures and stretching lower res textures takes alot of detail out, who knows. But man, this thing is 1 MILLION times better than my TV and I don't think I can ever go back....
 
eBay sitewide sale is active for another 5 1/2 hours:
https://pages.ebay.com/promo/2018/1228/acgwllqbegbdescez37e.html?_trkparms=&clkid=9179218027506218610
15% off anything for up to a max $100 discount.


@1080p Gaming

This mini single-fan EVGA GTX 1060 6GB is $162:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...JTqa:rk:4:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1

The XFX GTS RX 580 8GB from Newegg is $166. Best horsepower-to-dollar value of all GPUs sales listed in this post:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-GTS-Bl...04zj:rk:9:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1

The XFX Fatboy RX 590 8GB from Newegg is $238:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-Radeon...Ji4k:rk:1:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1


@1440p Gaming

This triple-fan Zotac GTX 1070 Ti Amp Extreme is just $305 (including the shipping cost). Highlighting because I think this one is the best sale of them all. This is the finest of three different variants Zotac produces. It is bettered perhaps only by the Asus ROG Strix and EVGA FTW versions of this card. It's even beating the $359 sale on a single-fan blower MSI variant from B&H (who has been putting on some crazy sales this week). The next cheapest 1070 Ti card PCPP is flagging is $380:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-...JjnI:rk:2:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1

This Sapphire Vega 64 is $355 (including the shipping cost):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AMD-SA...JoBo:rk:3:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1

The EVGA RTX 2070 directly from EVGA is $425:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...9:sc:UPSGround!96080!US!-1:rk:5:pf:0&LH_BIN=1

Its big brother the EVGA RTX 2080 directly from EVGA has been flagged on the r/buildapc for $600:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...S!-1:rk:2:pf:0&LH_ItemCondition=1000&LH_BIN=1
 
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I still suck compare to Joe Rogan LOL.
 
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Depending upon how my work weekend goes. May be upgrading to a i9-9900K or i7-8700K with a new mobo.

Sennheiser is also coming out with a soundbar early next year. If the cost is good i'll be ditching my receiver and speakers for it.
 
Depending upon how my work weekend goes. May be upgrading to a i9-9900K or i7-8700K with a new mobo.

Sennheiser is also coming out with a soundbar early next year. If the cost is good i'll be ditching my receiver and speakers for it.
You work on commission?

With pricing where it is at in this moment I'd throw out notions of the 8700K. It's the 9700K or the 9900K-- especially since CS:GO is your main squeeze. What game are you playing that has you itching for the upgrade right now, at all, may I ask?


I still suck compare to Joe Rogan LOL.

Okay, I've got to admit, that might be the most beautiful PC I've ever seen. I'm not a vanity guy, and the only time I would ever tolerate a single light from anything but my monitor would be to show it off to someone, but that has me utterly spellbound.

15 freaking case fans. I wonder what the total weight is.
 
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You work on commission?

With pricing where it is at in this moment I'd throw out notions of the 8700K. It's the 9700K or the 9900K-- especially since CS:GO is your main squeeze. What game are you playing that has you itching for the upgrade right now, at all, may I ask?

Hourly with gratuity.

Issues is i dont need to upgrade. Still get over 300 fps in CSGO. CPU/Mobo is still going strong even though ive been using them for 4+ years. 9900K from the CSGO benchmarks ive seen are best. Only other game i play regularly is Escape from Tarkov.

In that situation someone else was in a few pages back. Have the extra cash an just wish to upgrade something.
 
Hourly with gratuity.

Issues is i dont need to upgrade. Still get over 300 fps in CSGO. CPU/Mobo is still going strong even though ive been using them for 4+ years. 9900K from the CSGO benchmarks ive seen are best. Only other game i play regularly is Escape from Tarkov.

In that situation someone else was in a few pages back. Have the extra cash an just wish to upgrade something.
LOL, you're definitely pheenin. If I might play Jiminy Cricket I'd suggest you throw a grand or two into an earmarked savings account-- let that money idle in pace with inflation. You know something will be coming down the road that is more significant. You already know that won't improve your current setup in any discernible way.

What about the BenQ XL2546? You already rocking that? That's about the same price as the 9900K.
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EVGA 100-W1-0600-K1 Power Supply - 80 PLUS - 600W:
https://express.google.com/u/0/prod...Eh-dUJdwe1eUzBA2k8REvC0WyEJStTEIaAjmTEALw_wcB
via Best Buy.

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$54.99 - $25 = $29.99 - $6.00 [20% off via Coupon Code = NEWYEAR19, valid until Feb-3] = $23.99
Free 2-day shipping; Google Express will charge your state sales tax


You aren't going to see a lower price on a budget PSU than this. The cheapest 600W 80+ PSU I'm seeing other than this unit is the Thermaltake Smart series PS unit for $45 from Amazon.

This specific unit wasn't reviewed by JonnyGuru, but the 500W version from the same line was:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=384
The most current forum-maintained "Tier" list (this time at LTT) slots it into Tier F which is probably appropriate:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/986897-psu-tier-list-30/
 
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EVGA 100-W1-0600-K1 Power Supply - 80 PLUS - 600W:
https://express.google.com/u/0/prod...Eh-dUJdwe1eUzBA2k8REvC0WyEJStTEIaAjmTEALw_wcB
via Best Buy.

zg-oX9yDIxoLW2S5UP5RfZGAP1igaESXllXsfKJ3WuS4ias23kApb7wMSkgvysbB2WtmWHxYv3-7b8biz2vNL1Xyvzf3yqaxArypURH2luAXmGoemnCVKB25lO2wgvgbtbLayFiPt80UUshh2jggHbCgdJVXLFOVbeW4bKaj1IkOJ6RPCJv3zXwPpTxoyZZcCk_IbS2fgDrX-EJGXl5J=s500-pd-e365-pc0xffffff


$54.99 - $25 = $29.99 - $6.00 [20% off via Coupon Code = NEWYEAR19, valid until Feb-3] = $23.99
Free 2-day shipping; Google Express will charge your state sales tax


You aren't going to see a lower price on a budget PSU than this. The cheapest 600W 80+ PSU I'm seeing other than this unit is the Thermaltake Smart series PS unit for $45 from Amazon.

This specific unit wasn't reviewed by JonnyGuru, but the 500W version from the same line was:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=384
The most current forum-maintained "Tier" list (this time at LTT) slots it into Tier F which is probably appropriate:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/986897-psu-tier-list-30/
That is a smoking deal on a psu.


Edit: they are in stock at my local store, it’s tempting to just get it at that price and keep it around for when I need one.
 
Well, you were wondering, @90 50. The stars are on your side. Ask and ye shall receive:
AMD Ryzen 3000 Specs & Prices Leaked, Upto 16 Cores & 5.1GHz on AM4

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More and more with each announcement it looks like the frequency wars are subsiding, and giving way to the core wars. As small as they go, they can't go that much smaller on the die, and so there just isn't as much to be gained by pursuing higher clocks. So instead of building up, they're building out. One wonders how long this can last; when the next generation won't be doubling the previous generation's cores.
AMD Ryzen 3000 Series 7nm Zen 2 Processors Leaked, Includes Flagship 16-Core Ryzen 3800X
Game Debate said:
A Russian retailer appears to have leaked AMD’s upcoming Zen 2-based Ryzen 3000 series desktop processors. Retailer ‘E-Katalog’ has listed a grand total of five Ryzen 3000 CPUs for pre-order, covering Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, and the top-tier Ryzen 9.

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It’s now looking extremely likely that AMD is planning some sort of Ryzen 3000 reveal during CES 2019, which begins this coming Tuesday, 8th January.

The AMD Ryzen 3000 series processors will be the first desktop CPUs to utilise the new 7nm process, shrunk down from the 12nm fabrication used for Zen+ and the Ryzen 2000 series. The 7nm process offers architectural improvements that allow for greater energy efficiency, higher clock speeds, and increased IPC.

Sitting at the top of the heap is the alleged flagship, the AMD Ryzen 9 3800X. This part could be set to come in an blow the current Ryzen 7 2700X away, doubling the core count to 16 Cores and 32 Threads. The Ryzen 9 3800X will have a base clock speed of 3.9 GHz and a boost clock of 4.7 GHz. It’ll guzzle more than the previous-gen due to the core-doubling, consuming a maximum TDP of 125W compared to 95W for the 2700X.

Slotting in below the Ryzen 9 3800X are the AMD Ryzen 7 3700X and the Ryzen 7 3700. Both of these CPUs are set to feature 12C/24T. The Ryzen 7 3700X is clocked at 4.2GHz base and 5.0GHz boost, while the Ryzen 7 3700 is ~10% slower at 3.8GHz base and 4.6GHz boost clock speed. The 3700X has 105W TDP while the 3700 utilises 95W.

Lastly, we’ve got the mid-tier chips, although they’re the weakest Ryzen 3000 series revealed in this leak. The AMD Ryzen 5 3600X and Ryzen 5 3600 will both have 8C/16T, up from 6C/12T on the equivalent 2000 series parts. The AMD Ryzen 5 3600X is clocked at 4.0GHz base, 4.8GHz boost, while the Ryzen 5 3600 comes in at 3.6GHz base, 4.4 GHz boost. They have a 95W and 65W TDP respectively.

All in all, we could be looking at a very decent upgrade over the previous-gen here. AMD is pushing the core counts much higher and is helping to set octa-core as the new standard. Not a lot of games will take huge advantage of this but anything above and beyond quad-core provides some great overhead, particularly for multitasking.

We’ll be sure to keep an eye on CES 2019 next week, where we’ll hopefully get the first confirmed details as well as potential pricing for AMD’s next-gen processors.
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This is now the 3rd or 4th leak indicating these Ryzen 3000 figures are accurate, and we can expect them to be formally annoucned at CES on Tuesday.

WTF will Intel's response be? The 3300, 3300X, 3600X, 3700X, and 3850X are going to destroy them. AMD will own every gaming PC CPU price point from $100-unlimited.
 
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AMD Ryzen 3000 Series 7nm Zen 2 Processors Leaked, Includes Flagship 16-Core Ryzen 3800X

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This is now the 3rd or 4th leak indicating these Ryzen 3000 figures are accurate, and we can expect them to be formally annoucned at CES on Tuesday.

WTF will Intel's response be? The 3300, 3300X, 3600X, 3700X, and 3850X are going to destroy them. AMD will own every gaming PC CPU price point from $100-unlimited.
That 3700x has me thinking about skipping the deals on the 1700x, or waiting and seeing how good of deals the 2700x come in at.

2700x prices could drop down to 1700x pricing not long after that release!
 
The best gaming TVs on the market just got better:
LG’s new OLED TVs: True 4K/120Hz, variable refresh rates, HDMI 2.1, more
Ars Technica said:
LG has announced its TV lineup in the lead-up to the 2019 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) next week. As in other recent years, the company has split its lineup between LCD and OLED models, and the OLED models are generally the most interesting. This year, LG's OLEDs and certain high-end LCD TVs will support HDMI 2.1, allowing them to display 4K content at 120Hz over HDMI.

HDMI 2.1 is also relevant for the emerging 8K TV category, as the previous version of HDMI only allowed 8K at 30 frames per second (fps). LG will introduce two 8K TVs—the 88-inch Z9 OLED TV and the 75-inch SM99 LCD TV—that can handle 60Hz content at the full 8K resolution over HDMI. Samsung announced its first mass-market 8K TV in late 2018, and it was limited to 30Hz. Granted, there is virtually no 60Hz 8K content available in most markets, and very little 120Hz 4K content. But that could change as TVs like these come to market.

Speaking of HDMI, the sets with HDMI 2.1 will also support eARC (enhanced audio return channel)—an audio-over-HDMI feature that makes many a home theater enthusiast's life a little simpler.
HFR content is also supported by LG's Alpha 9 Gen 2 CPU in the Z9, W9, E9, and C9 OLED models (plus the SM99 and SM8X LCD sets), which LG says uses AI and deep learning "from a vast database of over 1 million visual data" to analyze and enhance the image based on what's going on in the picture and the content type. It's a little similar in some ways to the AI and ML features in smartphone cameras these days. LG claims its silicon solution can help with audio, too. Specifically, the company's press release says the TVs will run algorithms that up-mix 2-channel audio to virtual 5.1 surround sound. Dolby Atmos is also supported.

The new B9—LG's entry-level OLED TV—insomuch as that phrase makes sense—will ship with a 2nd-gen Alpha 7 processor, so it will miss out on some of the big features.

LG's OLEDs have become quite popular with gamers who want to get the most out of the Xbox One X or PlayStation 4 Pro consoles, and LG is doubling down on that in 2019. LG told FlatpanelsHD that the TVs will deliver 13ms input lag, which is very low for TVs of this type. Assuming burn-in of UI elements doesn't become an issue, that makes these sets very appealing for gamers.

Additionally, the TVs with the Alpha 9 Gen 2 CPU will support variable refresh rates (VRR) and automatic low-latency mode (ALLM). These features were recently added to Xbox One consoles but not the PlayStation 4, PlayStation 4 Pro, or Nintendo Switch.
Beyond what we've shared above, LG's sets offer a pretty standard set of features. The actual OLED panels are unchanged, and the design changes are quite subtle. But the previous panels were already excellent; LG's OLED TVs offer better image quality than LCD competitors by most metrics in all but the brightest viewing environments, thanks in no small part to their absolute black levels.
Both Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa will be supported out of the box. The new TVs all support four HDR formats: HDR10, HLG, Dolby Vision, and Advanced HDR. There's no HDR10+ support—direct LG competitor Samsung is the main driver of that format.
 
That 3700x has me thinking about skipping the deals on the 1700x, or waiting and seeing how good of deals the 2700x come in at.

2700x prices could drop down to 1700x pricing not long after that release!

I wonder what they're going to do for coolers. The Wraith Prism is already being pushed to the edge with the 2700.
 
I wonder what they're going to do for coolers. The Wraith Prism is already being pushed to the edge with the 2700.
I’m sure the cooling aspect is the least technically difficult part of the equation in developing these new cpu’s

I’d have to imagine they just have a newer more improved cooler, like they have continually done previously.

I seriously doubt they come out and say” you must buy an aio for this cpu”

Threadrippers have to dissipate more heat that an r9 would right?

But they do have the benifit of a larger surface area to dissipate the heat to a cooler so who knows.

Interesting question.
 
AMD Ryzen 3000 Series 7nm Zen 2 Processors Leaked, Includes Flagship 16-Core Ryzen 3800X

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This is now the 3rd or 4th leak indicating these Ryzen 3000 figures are accurate, and we can expect them to be formally annoucned at CES on Tuesday.

WTF will Intel's response be? The 3300, 3300X, 3600X, 3700X, and 3850X are going to destroy them. AMD will own every gaming PC CPU price point from $100-unlimited.
If this is true I'm getting the 3700, what a time to be alive lol
 
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