Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[90 50]

2666 on Ryzen, meh

 

[jefferz]

2666 on Ryzen, meh

I’d be more concerned about the single channel than the speed. Either problem can be easily remedied though especially at these prices.

 

[90 50]

I’d be more concerned about the single channel than the speed. Either problem can be easily remedied though especially at these prices.

I’ve never looked at performance on one stick running single channel vs two smaller(but equal total running duel)

Is it that much difference? I would prefer it come with one 8, so you just drop another 8 in instead of having to get a whole 16g kit.

But at 2666, I might anyway? And eBay/Craigslist etc the 8 2666 and put 2x8 3200 in it?

I’m not up on memory speeds etc etc but I was pretty sure when I decided to buy 3200 for mine that with Ryzen especially faster ram makes more difference??

Memory timings and speeds are probubaly my “weakest” areas technically so there is that too.

 

[90 50]

Right now I have 2x8 in my pc, one is 3k one is 3200, so they are both running at 3k, I bought a 16g 3200 kit, but one of the 3200’s won’t fit, hits the cooler.

I suppose if I really wanted too I could pull the 3200 out, and bench mark it, then put the 3200 in and do it , but I think the results would be so close it wouldn’t be worth the hassle.

Right now all my free pc time has been going into trying to convert this ancient server I have into an emulation pc for old arcade etc games.

It’s not being nice.

 

[rob mafia]

those look like pretty killer deals, assuming the mobo can handle the cheap upgrades. even if it can't, it's still a pretty good price for what it is.

 

[Madmick]

2666 on Ryzen, meh

those look like pretty killer deals, assuming the mobo can handle the cheap upgrades. even if it can't, it's still a pretty good price for what it is.

It's an ungodly deal. For perspective compare the #1 prebuild currently on Amazon-- $888 for practically the same build:
https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=R9J07BQEN5P74RCDCMA5

Keep in mind that DDR4-2666 is just the quoted speed rating for the RAM. Doesn't prohibit you from attempting to clock the memory higher. While there's no reason to buy inferior sticks to DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200 discreetly while those offer the best value there is very little lost with DDR4-2666 in gaming:

Spoiler: Ryzen gaming on DDR4-2666

Timestamped for the benchmark summary:


Also:

The biggest downside to this comp isn't single channel RAM, obviously, since that can be cheaply upgraded for ~$60 to a proper 16GB, and one shouldn't expect unforeseen hiccups with adding RAM since the Ryzen 7 model already comes with two sticks:


The biggest downside is the custom case/motherboard form factors (HP's "Sunflower" motherboard) and the 400W PSU which lock these into their prebuild states. Given, that's a Platinum 400W PSU. It's not crap-- quite the opposite. It's the perfect choice for the job it has been charged with doing: a quiet, bulletproof workhorse. It just isn't built to accommodate a lot of expansion, hungrier GPUs, or aggressive overclocking ambitions. In line with this theme the case has only one free 2.5" slot inside the case, and the specs quote a single 3.5" drive which I'm guessing is already the populated one. So don't count on transplanting internal drives.

Still a helluva lot more expansion options than with an XBX or PS4P. Tough to be picky under $600.

Spoiler: Don't forget

It's also worth observing that the R4-2400G is actually an APU, so you can extract that RX 580 for another build, and this would still be a viable low-end gaming build or high-end HTPC:

 

[JaviBrewski]

have you considered moving, then?

best buy price matches microcenter.....

 

[Madmick]

best buy price matches microcenter.....

Only for online sales.

 

[jefferz]

Zotac 1060 6gb dual fan for $200 on newegg. It includes Monster Hunter World and a Fortnite pack. Hopefully we start seeing these prices on other brands.

 

[jefferz]

3DMark benchmark software is $4.50 on Steam. It includes the bench mark tools that the reviewers use like Time Spy and Fire Strike
It's software but I think it can go here.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Amazon selling faulty ps4 controllers I even called and got a replacement it doesn't sync to my ps4 pro just charges never had this problem before. Fuck amazon

Lol how is that Amazon’s fault though? They don’t manufacture the controller or run quality control on them. I think you meant fuck Sony ?

 

[Madmick]

NVIDIA Titan RTX 3DMark Performance Unveiled – Scores Over 40,000 Graphics Points in Firestrike When Overclocked Under Watercooling

NVIDIA’s flagship Titan graphics card, the Titan RTX, went on sale yesterday and that allowed many PC enthusiasts and content creators to get their hands on the beefiest prosumer aimed Turing 12 nm graphics card. Since its announcement, there has been no official performance data available but with consumers getting their hands on their new, ultra-expensive purchase, we get to see the first performance results in the 3DMark benchmark.

NVIDIA Titan RTX Benchmarked in 3DMark Firestrike, Scores Well Over 40,000 Graphics Points WIth Watercooling and Overclock on Both GPU and Memory
NVIDIA Titan RTX graphics card is the flagship solution for prosumers who want workstation grade performance and also want to enjoy AAA gaming titles. The Titan series has become the go-to option for users who want the best of both worlds but you have to pay a large premium to get your hands on the best that NVIDIA has to offer. So before getting into numbers, let’s talk about the specs of the new Titan.

NVIDIA Titan RTX Specifications / Pricing / Compute Performance Recap
The TITAN RTX uses the full TU102 GPU configuration with 6 GPCs, 36 TPCs, 72 SMs and 4608 CUDA Cores arranged within those SMs. There’s also 576 Tensor Cores and 72 RT cores that handle the bulk of AI/DNN and Raytracing workloads. The clock speeds will be maintained at 1350 MHz for the base and 1770 MHz for the boost frequency. The card features 24 GB of GDDR6 VRAM along a 384-bit bus interface that is clocked at 7.00 Gbps (14.00 Gbps effective) clock.

The card pumps out 672 GB/s of bandwidth and additionally comes with 6 MB of L2 cache. Power is provided through dual 8-pin connectors with a rated board TDP of 280W. The card also packs in the latest display connectivity with 3 DP, 1 HDMI, and a single USB Type-C port.

If we talk about performance, the card rocks 16.2 TFLOPs of FP32 compute which is higher than the Titan V’s 15.0 TFLOPs compute. It also comes with 11 Gigarays per second of ray tracing prowess, again, which is slightly higher than the 10 GRays/s of the Quadro RTX 8000 solution. NVIDIA states that the card would provide a 100 GB/s, full range NVLINK solution when two cards are paired for together in a multi-GPU environment. All of this can be yours for a premium price tag of $2499 US which although lower than the $3000 US of the previous Titan V graphics card, is still twice as much as the RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition.

But that doesn't appear to be the big news. NVIDIA has lost 52% of its market value in the past few months, and isn't rebounding from the crypto-crash to the pace other hardware manufacturers are recovering from Red October. This appears to have broken their confidence in their roadmap, and and the latter announcement serves as a strong indication they might already be throwing in the towel on ray-tracing:
Nvidia's 54 percent plunge this quarter makes it the biggest loser in S&P 500
...is followed by this...
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1160 Turing GPU Sans Ray-Tracing Rumored For 2019 Launch

If NVIDIA can't push this technology into the market by sticking to their guns there's not going to be any reason for developers to waste time on it. This development tips the predictive scale for its future heavily towards the "gimmick" side. Could very well be dead technology walking.

 

[rob mafia]

i mean, all stocks are tanking hard right now. but yeah, AMD's been killer and scooping up all kinds of market share (and their stock dropped almost 25% too this week)

 

[Madmick]

i mean, all stocks are tanking hard right now. but yeah, AMD's been killer and scooping up all kinds of market share (and their stock dropped almost 25% too this week)

They're posting record quarterly profits with each new quarter that is unveiled since last year. AMD's stock is bound to soar again. Concern over Chinese startups and the rapid advancement of ARM manufacturers is what has investors spooked there.

NVIDIA is also certain to soar again, too, once these self-driving cars hit the road. That'll wake the suits up. You'd think the moneybags would see how many cloud server centers they've been building, and notice some meaningful similarities with the rise of Microsoft.

 

[Madmick]

Only the 4GB version, but this dual fan, not one of the cheaper blower cards, and $137 is the lowest outright price I've ever seen on an RX 580:
https://www.cdw.com/product/ASUS-DU...phics-card-Radeon-RX-580-4-GB/4597467?pfm=srh

Combined with the $150 R5-2600 & the $107 Google Express first-time buyer's sale on the Crucial MX500 1TB SSD also available today that's halfway to a ripping 1080p build for $395.

Well, this has been one-upped.


$123 base price. The Powercolor Red Dragon 8GB version was $160 yesterday with no shipping from Newegg Business. I suspect these sales will drop even further after the New Year. They're still sitting on an inventory glut of GTX 1060 and RX 580 cards, obviously, and the holiday rush is nearly over.

 

[Ice That Jaw]

GPUs are at a shit level now.
I have a single 1080ti, the evga sc hydro. By now I should either have 2 running in SLI or I should have the 2080ti.

But I don't. Why? Because there are no games that demand beyond a single 1080ti.

This is a first that 9 can remember since the GTX 480. The 480 was the first real card I bought with my own money since coming off of a long console run with the Dreamcast to the Xbox 360.

That 480 eventually turned into 2 at SLI, but point being, it was fast enough to skip upgrades until the 700 series debuted.

 

[90 50]

GPUs are at a shit level now.
I have a single 1080ti, the evga sc hydro. By now I should either have 2 running in SLI or I should have the 2080ti.

But I don't. Why? Because there are no games that demand beyond a single 1080ti.

This is a first that 9 can remember since the GTX 480. The 480 was the first real card I bought with my own money since coming off of a long console run with the Dreamcast to the Xbox 360.

That 480 eventually turned into 2 at SLI, but point being, it was fast enough to skip upgrades until the 700 series debuted.

Unfortunately most games aren’t ski optimized. I’d have 2 980 ti’s if so

 

[Ice That Jaw]

Unfortunately most games aren’t ski optimized. I’d have 2 980 ti’s if so

2x 980tis will give better frames than a single 1080ti for all SLI supported games, and the list is not shrinking. I agree that one card is more reliable, but that is generally already determined by your CPU and Motherboard combination. If your setup is destined to have issues, it will have issues regardless. My last CPU and Mobo combination had 0 issues with SLI. When I upgraded and threw in Windows 10, things took a turn for the worse and I actually started to get issues that I used to read about in Steam forums, even with a single card.

 

[560ti]

8 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB)

Your always so negative. It will play games fine at 1080p. For a desktop priced low mid tier it will easily get the job done and is a great value for those who want a step up from a normal office PC.

 

[jefferz]

Your always so negative. It will play games fine at 1080p. For a desktop priced low mid tier it will easily get the job done and is a great value for those who want a step up from a normal office PC.

Ryzen benefits greatly from dual channel ram. They’re leaving performance on the table by only using a single stick.