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[Slobodan]

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I was unaware of that

Yeah and the cards are blue so they look kinda cool

 

[90 50]

Yeah and the cards are blue so they look kinda cool

https://techgage.com/article/radeon-pro-vs-quadro-a-fresh-look-at-workstation-gpu-performance/

Here a neat article on productivity with many gpu’s, I got about halfway through page two and I’m nodding off falling asleep so I’ll read the rest later but on the first test the Vega 64 beat all but the titan
Then the next test was mixed and the test after Nvidia cards beat all the amd cards.

It’s worth a look I think and I’ll dig into it more tomorrow

 

[Blayt7hh]

Depending on how you look at it , they are.

For instance in my research it seems that a number of different types of uses, some different amd cards are better besides straight gaming when matched price point to price point with gtx cards.

Certain editing and color correction and rendering tasks seem to be better for some amd cards.

But they don’t have two specific card types like Nvidia does.

So, if you do a lot of work, on tasks that the amd card is better at like those above or modeling softwares etc and game, you could have a card that does both very well, it not the best at either.

Or chose the Nvidia gtx for gaming purposes and have it do worse at modeling and rendering or buy a Nvidia quaddro and have best modeling and not very good gaming.

Amd only having one card type makes them better suited to hit a broader audience at the same time.

That’s picking and choosing some minor victories though. The reality though is for gaming rigs, they aren’t putting out any really competitive cards and haven’t since maybe as far back as 2011 with the 290x

 

[rikwebb]

Digital Foundry's hands on with the Subor Z Plus, the chinese PC/Console Hybrid with Ryzen and Vega that was annouced last month

 

[Slobodan]

That’s picking and choosing some minor victories though. The reality though is for gaming rigs, they aren’t putting out any really competitive cards and haven’t since maybe as far back as 2011 with the 290x

The Vega 64 competes with the 1080, Vega 56 competes with the 1070/1070ti and the RX 580 competes with the 1060. The only one they can't compete with is the 1080ti.

 

[jefferz]

The Vega 64 competes with the 1080, Vega 56 competes with the 1070/1070ti and the RX 580 competes with the 1060. The only one they can't compete with is the 1080ti.

580's and lower are the only ones that compete price wise with Nvidia. Vega 56's are about $100 more than a 1070. There's about a $50 difference between the 64's & 1080's.
You can damn near buy 2 used 1070's for the price of a new Vega 56

 

[My Spot]

The 64 is about $100 more than the 1080 now.

 

[jefferz]

The 64 is about $100 more than the 1080 now.

Vega 64's are starting to trickled down to the $500 range.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[90 50]

580's and lower are the only ones that compete price wise with Nvidia. Vega 56's are about $100 more than a 1070. There's about a $50 difference between the 64's & 1080's.
You can damn near buy 2 used 1070's for the price of a new Vega 56

Yeah but depending on what you value the most in some instances the 64 is supreme to anything besides a titan.

 

[Madmick]

The Vega 64 competes with the 1080, Vega 56 competes with the 1070/1070ti and the RX 580 competes with the 1060. The only one they can't compete with is the 1080ti.

That's what I interpreted him to mean. They can only compete in terms of price points, not technology.

580's and lower are the only ones that compete price wise with Nvidia. Vega 56's are about $100 more than a 1070. There's about a $50 difference between the 64's & 1080's.
You can damn near buy 2 used 1070's for the price of a new Vega 56

That's only because they are more desirable to cryptominers, and so they have been inflated more, especially those Vegas. Historically the AMD cards have always offered a better value, especially long term, at most price points.

 

[jefferz]

That's what I interpreted him to mean. They can only compete in terms of price points, not technology.

That's only because they are more desirable to cryptominers, and so they have been inflated more, especially those Vegas. Historically the AMD cards have always offered a better value, especially long term, at most price points.

Not to be rude, but no shit sherlock.
The crypto boom is dead and Vega's still haven't dropped to msrp.

 

[Madmick]

Not to be rude, but no shit sherlock.
The crypto boom is dead and Vega's still haven't dropped to msrp.

It may not be obvious to everyone.

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

I read that a 1080 Ti is about as good as 2080.

 

[PEB]

I read that a 1080 Ti is about as good as 2080.View attachment 439769

Just saw a review talking about both of them an interesting take aways. Both cards are beyond the needs of most gamers as both can play a large number of games with features all turned on at 60 fps at 4k.

But the 2080ti turns out can outperform the 1080ti at an average of 20 to 35 percent using Acer predator a 27 inch 2000 dollar 4k 120 to 144 hz overclocked monitor.

So for someone with the cash to buy a 2,000.00 budget busting monitor the 2080 Ti the way to go. They really did not talk about realtime ray tracing so I don't know anything about that part.

So for people who already own a 1080 Ti there is little if any reason to make the jump unless you really got the cash to buy a really expensive monitor too. PCweek article.

 

[Blayt7hh]

The Vega 64 competes with the 1080, Vega 56 competes with the 1070/1070ti and the RX 580 competes with the 1060. The only one they can't compete with is the 1080ti.

Where? I'm doing a quick price sort on newegg, and the Vega 56 is pretty much equal to the 1070 in performance but commands like a $100 premium. Same story with the 1080/Vega 64, though the price disparity isn't as bad. What makes it worse though is that the Vega cards are a full year younger than their competition. That means Nvidia had a full year of selling their cards before AMD could put out an alternative. I just don't think AMD is real competition for Nvidia right now. I hope that changes. I used to be on team red. We're going on years of a one sided beating now though. I'll bet Nvidia could sell these new RTX cards for much cheaper than they are going for. But they don't have too, because people are wanting new cards now that pascal is 2 years old, are willing to pay for them, and are getting no real viable alternatives from AMD

 

[560ti]

Where? I'm doing a quick price sort on newegg, and the Vega 56 is pretty much equal to the 1070 in performance but commands like a $100 premium. Same story with the 1080/Vega 64, though the price disparity isn't as bad. What makes it worse though is that the Vega cards are a full year younger than their competition. That means Nvidia had a full year of selling their cards before AMD could put out an alternative. I just don't think AMD is real competition for Nvidia right now. I hope that changes. I used to be on team red. We're going on years of a one sided beating now though. I'll bet Nvidia could sell these new RTX cards for much cheaper than they are going for. But they don't have too, because people are wanting new cards now that pascal is 2 years old, are willing to pay for them, and are getting no real viable alternatives from AMD

Yeah Vega wasn't really competitive at all. It was 14 months late to the party and offered literally the same performance for slightly higher price, higher power consumption, and lower overclocking ability (due to high heat) . To make things worst it took 3-4 months after there already delayed release to get third party coolers released. There was literally not use/purpose for the Vega cards, they offered NOTHING to an already aging market

290/290x was the last time they where competitive and even then they got destroyed when the gtx 970 came out (they had to drop the price of both models by $200 just to stay somewhat competitive).

 

[PEB]

RTX 2080Ti in SLi.


Well this will cost a few dollars this setup. Of course he has the Acer predator monitor running at 144hz.

 

[90 50]

RTX 2080Ti in SLi.


Well this will cost a few dollars this setup. Of course he has the Acer predator monitor running at 144hz.

Gonna watch this here in a minute.

The real question here is gown many people actually run sli?

Basically NOTHING is optimized for it that I’m seeing.

It sounds like a good idea. “Damn my 980 ti isn’t keeping up these days” i’ll Just buy another one instead of a 1k card.

But it only does well in some benchmark tests or limited games.

Does anyone on this forum for example even run sli??

 

[Cygnus A]

Gonna watch this here in a minute.

The real question here is gown many people actually run sli?

Basically NOTHING is optimized for it that I’m seeing.

It sounds like a good idea. “Damn my 980 ti isn’t keeping up these days” i’ll Just buy another one instead of a 1k card.

But it only does well in some benchmark tests or limited games.

Does anyone on this forum for example even run sli??

I did at one point until one of the games I really wanted to play didnt support it..

 

[90 50]

I did at one point until one of the games I really wanted to play didnt support it..

So what did you end up doing? Getting rid of both and getting one newer card?

I’m really wanting to do an sli, but the more i look into it the less a And less I can find reason too beside the “I have two gpu’s in my rig” look factor.

The budget aspect of it is what I like, I can get two 980ti’s cheap for example.

But it seems like that will just be cool in some synthetic benchmarks and that’s it.

My 970 hasn’t Let me down any in what I’ve done so far anyway , but I know it will soon.

I’m just bored with my computer. And putting a 1080 ti in it just seems boring compared to two 980 ti’s or two 1070’s etc et

But the 1080 ti will perform better in almost all aspects I am seeing.

I’m still trying to find out if there is a reason it will benifit me in some way.