Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

Find an old business PC that has an i5-2400 or newer and you'll have a low-med eSports machine. You should be able to find one for $75 or lower locally. Even if you have to go to ebay, you can get a i5-3470, 8gb ram, 250gb HDD, Win 10 machine for $120. Just make sure to get a full tower size. Add a $35 240gb SSD and you're into the system for $207.
It would make a great media center and couch gaming pc.
Some of those prebuilt computers can be upgraded to xeons, check the manufactures page for approved cpu's. If you can find a cheap i3 computer, you can get Xeon E3-1230's which are 4 core/8 threads 3.2ghz base/ 3.8ghz turbo for $55
I was gonna get a 25$ core two duo optiex and a super cheap card like in the 25$ range for an emulation only pc and a 50.00 i5 in the 3k series or for 75 an i7 2600. All optiplex’s.
Then I was gonna chunk a cheap ssd in and see about flipping a couple a week if it works out for some extra cash. Was gonna put 750’s in the i5’s and 970’s in the i7’s.

My source has HUNDREDS of business opti’s and the more I buy at a time the better the rate I can get.

The emulation machine I would keep , but the i5’s and 7’s would be to sell.

If it’s profitable I’d like to flip 4-5 a week for extra cash to play with.

I have 6 monitors I have basically no use for I can also put together “ready to go” gaming packages with monitor keyboard and mouse.

4 24” 1080p 60hrz, 2 acer and 2 dell + 2 27” 1080p 60hrz Dell.

And more dell keyboard and mice than I’ll ever know what to do with.
 
I was gonna get a 25$ core two duo optiex and a super cheap card like in the 25$ range for an emulation only pc and a 50.00 i5 in the 3k series or for 75 an i7 2600. All optiplex’s.
Then I was gonna chunk a cheap ssd in and see about flipping a couple a week if it works out for some extra cash. Was gonna put 750’s in the i5’s and 970’s in the i7’s.

My source has HUNDREDS of business opti’s and the more I buy at a time the better the rate I can get.

The emulation machine I would keep , but the i5’s and 7’s would be to sell.

If it’s profitable I’d like to flip 4-5 a week for extra cash to play with.

I have 6 monitors I have basically no use for I can also put together “ready to go” gaming packages with monitor keyboard and mouse.

4 24” 1080p 60hrz, 2 acer and 2 dell + 2 27” 1080p 60hrz Dell.

And more dell keyboard and mice than I’ll ever know what to do with.

Here's what I would do. I'd stick with i5's and advertise them as 1080p Fortnite/Overwatch/LOL/DOTA 2 pc's. If you're getting the i5's for $50, RX460 for $52, and throw in a $20 120gb ssd you'd be into them for $122. I'd list them at $200, you're making a $78 profit (68% return on your money). I really think $200 for that system is a really fair price. Do a complete combo with the monitor and mouse/keyboard for $250.
For your own personal use with the emulation, I'd stick with the i5 or higher. That way you'd be able to play modern titles like Doom or split screen Rocket League.
 
Here's what I would do. I'd stick with i5's and advertise them as 1080p Fortnite/Overwatch/LOL/DOTA 2 pc's. If you're getting the i5's for $50, RX460 for $52, and throw in a $20 120gb ssd you'd be into them for $122. I'd list them at $200, you're making a $78 profit (68% return on your money). I really think $200 for that system is a really fair price. Do a complete combo with the monitor and mouse/keyboard for $250.
For your own personal use with the emulation, I'd stick with the i5 or higher. That way you'd be able to play modern titles like Doom or split screen Rocket League.
That’s basically exactly what I was gonna do, the emulation machine is to go into our Arcade one and emulate arcade games.

Modern titles I’ll just play on my Pc
 
Picked up the Crucial MX500 500GB for $90.75 AUD from Amazon AU
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I didn't know where to put this, so i'm putting it here. Steve talking about the hate they got from AMD fanboys over a video they did poking holes in AMD releasing new processors at CES.
TLDW: They got enough hate from AMD fanboys that they're not going to do another video like that again, even though he was right.
 
Radeon Vll reviews are out and it looks like they pushed the cards out too quick.
Numerous reviewers are saying black screens, crashing, and other issues. They seem to be software related issues which can hopefully be fixed. The numbers look great though.
Newegg is already sold out.
 
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/13923/the-amd-radeon-vii-review

The Radeon VII is a serious disappointment. It's pre-overclocked and kicks up its loud fans early due to heat issues stemming from that; it has no tensor cores, and yet it still can't even match the RTX 2080 in most games where those aren't being utilized, especially running on DX11 (which is what matters), despite being launched with the same MSRP ($699) that retail RTX 2080 variants like the EVGA Black and Gigabyte Windforce carry right now.

Not that any of this matters, since game developers have stopped pressing boundaries, instead letting 4K function as an elective ceiling for gamers, but it feels like AMD is falling further behind rather than catching up.

Oh well. RX 580 8GB is where it's at.
 


https://www.anandtech.com/show/13923/the-amd-radeon-vii-review

The Radeon VII is a serious disappointment. It's pre-overclocked and kicks up its loud fans early due to heat issues stemming from that; it has no tensor cores, and yet it still can't even match the RTX 2080 in most games where those aren't being utilized, especially running on DX11 (which is what matters), despite being launched with the same MSRP ($699) that retail RTX 2080 variants like the EVGA Black and Gigabyte Windforce carry right now.

Not that any of this matters, since game developers have stopped pressing boundaries, instead letting 4K function as an elective ceiling for gamers, but it feels like AMD is falling further behind rather than catching up.

Oh well. RX 580 8GB is where it's at.

Rx 580 while a good value, still gets its teeth kicked in by a 980 ti, that you can pick up for 100.00 used on most c-list’s if you look around.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-580/3439vs3923
 
Holy crap. I knew they were loud but I didn't think they'd be this loud.
 
Rx 580 while a good value, still gets its teeth kicked in by a 980 ti, that you can pick up for 100.00 used on most c-list’s if you look around.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-580/3439vs3923
I don't doubt it, but New vs. Resale markets aren't apples to apples. You can always find a better value as a bin diver.

I haven't seen a better value than the $499 flash sale ($449 open box) I missed, then saw after the fact, for that HP Pavilion unit previously listed in post #440, but on the used market, it's always interesting to see where auctions like this one finish:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Gam...1c1:g:pE4AAOSwpl5cVlYZ:rk:3:pf:0&LH_Auction=1
 
I don't doubt it, but New vs. Resale markets aren't apples to apples. You can always find a better value as a bin diver.

I haven't seen a better value than the $499 flash sale ($449 open box) I missed, then saw after the fact, for that HP Pavilion unit previously listed in post #440, but on the used market, it's always interesting to see where auctions like this one finish:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Gam...1c1:g:pE4AAOSwpl5cVlYZ:rk:3:pf:0&LH_Auction=1
Yeah not apples to apples, but I was just referencing the “where it’s at” since it gets crushed by a now two generation old card.

Good value for a new card yes I agreed, but I wouldn’t say that’s where it’s at. It’s just too far behind the times.
 
Yeah not apples to apples, but I was just referencing the “where it’s at” since it gets crushed by a now two generation old card.

Good value for a new card yes I agreed, but I wouldn’t say that’s where it’s at. It’s just too far behind the times.
One could make this argument for used cars, too, because they lose a quarter of their value when you drive them off the lot, but people still buy new because things like mileage, warranty, and seller reliability matter. Prices on the used market are much more variable, and especially with regard to location.

The comment that the RX 580 is "too far behind the times" in favor of a card that is further behind the times is a strange assessment. The GTX 980 Ti has 2GB less VRAM than the RX 580 8GB which isn't really an issue right now, but may manifest in the coming years as a shortcoming at the higher resolutions-- particularly for modders. Don't get too hung up on UB, either. The 980 Ti only achieves half that advantage in the gaming benchmark roundup from TPU:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_580_Mech_2/31.html

In terms of bang-for-you-buck for a card adequate for comprehensive 1080p gaming, which is the most common currently, the RX 580 8GB is generally the best buy right now.
 
picking up a 980ti for 100$ thats been abused for bitcoin farming isn't a deal. It's a gamble.
You have to know how to tell if it’s been mined, by the post and the poster and thier other items. Not real hard.

And 980 ti’s weren’t exactly commonly used for mining.

Also often times, if the card was used for mining or just heavy gaming the temps will tell the story, pull it apart, reapply thermal paste and rock on.
 
Insane prices for Zen 2 chips could cause real problems for Intel. Top clock speeds from 4.7 to 5.1 ghz 8 core 16 thread CPU.

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I've noticed the latest Intel processors are finally available for purchase. They'll cost you your first born, so not a single one is a recommended purchase, but these are the best processors in the world per-core. The new "KF" processors are particularly puzzling, and that's been noticed. One is inclined to be optimistic that without the onboard graphics they would have greater overclocking potential, as little as that might matter in 2019 with Intel processors, but I've seen nothing yet to confirm this is true:
Pay More for Less With the Intel Core i9-9900KF

Nevertheless, the new Intel i5-9400F has made Intel competitive once again for at least one price point across all processors. At a low of $176 right now via OutletPC it is cheaper than the i5-8400 (including the OEM/Tray version). For gaming purist builders this is the winning processor between $100-$200, now, though there is still a case to be made on value or longevity for the R5-1600 for $143 or R7-1700X for $190.

One more intriguing recent confirmation of the line is the intriguing 35W TDP i9-9900T processor likely aimed at the enthusiast market who build in extremely small cases:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14058/complete-coffee-lake-refresh-cpu-list

World's Current Top Gaming Processor by Core/Thread
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*Red = Unverified All-Core Turbo figure
Green Highlight = #1 Overall Gaming Processor

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